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Celebrating Christmas is hypocritical for "Christians"?

I mean, isn't it?
The origin of Christmas has nothing to do with Jesus or God for that matter.
Doesn't help that it was a pagan festival back in the day that the Church adopted.

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[url=http://home.sprynet.com/~pabco/ptofxmas.htm]And here[/url]

Just food for thought.

December 25, 2010

12 Comments • Newest first

LoveDocABC

I doubt anyone cares about origin, and I don't think its wrong to take the bad and turn it into something good or something useful.

Also, its not as if everyone is just ripping pages they don't like out the bible. Much literature is left up to the readers interpretations and I think that's one of the nice things about Christianity. Although, there is a difference between actually reading the bible and finding a sensible interpretation, as opposed to the " I live by faith" bs that the whores, swindlers, and murderers use.

I haven't read the bible concerning this topic, but i don't remember Jesus saying anything against Christmas or giving.

Reply December 25, 2010
ZombieOverlord

[quote=NapalmDe4th]Here's a better thought: who the hell gives a damn? Whatever Christmas was doesn't indicate what it is now and what personal meaning each person gives it. To say that Christmas is inherently evil is to say a crucifix is inherently Christian; clearly these symbols derive their meaning not only from their past but also their development in modern culture and personal meaning--we don't see crucifixes as dirty things reserved only for criminals, despite that being their original intent. This isn't "food for thought" this is sanctimonious, self-righteous vomit.[/quote]

And I quote: "who gives a damn"

Reply December 25, 2010
Deciduous

i wouldn't say it's hypocritical...especially at this point

winners write history, and christians won on several occasions (christmas, easter, etc.) so they pretty much redefined it all. it's cool and fun to see what the real history of things were but they aren't nearly as relevant now...hell even christianity isn't as relevant to christmas as the whole commercial and secular aspects of it, i'd say.

Reply December 25, 2010
nsdarknessx

Christmas has become commercialized. I bet more than half the people who do the whole Christmas tree thing don't even know what Christmas is about.

Reply December 25, 2010
ZombieOverlord

[quote=Cyrus0]Oh my word you have no idea how many times I've preached about that^
"Herp, christianity is cool and all, but i rlly leik pre-marital sex and sleeping in on sundais, so imma go ahead and interpret the bible to my own convenience, derp."[/quote]

Humans are selfish by nature after all.
Whatever benefits them, benefits them.

Reply December 25, 2010
ZombieOverlord

[quote=TellALie]It is also not about the fat man anymore or the mystical reindeers, just all that is wrapped up in those boxes under the tree.[/quote]

It all ultimately boils down to what you get in those boxes.

Reply December 25, 2010
ZombieOverlord

[quote=Cyrus0]Absolutely no one cares anymore.
Now if there was a Protestant sect of the Christian church the celebrated the ACTUAL date of Jesus' birth, I'd be impressed.[/quote]

That's funny considering many people profess to be "Christian" yet only in name.

Reply December 25, 2010
ZombieOverlord

[quote=PastaForever]I think I see what you mean... but I personally just don't think it should be restricted. If people want to buy presents for each other and call it Christmas, then I think they should have every right to do that no matter what their faith is.[/quote]

I don't mean for people to restrict it, but I just want people to know what they're been getting into.

@above: Doesn't make it anymore correct from it's roots.
And Christmas, for many what does it stand for? Presents, yep, presents and gifts for oneself. You can say people come together as a family during those days, but really, is it not the presents that keep people around?

Reply December 25, 2010 - edited
PastaForever

I think I see what you mean... but I personally just don't think it should be restricted. If people want to buy presents for each other and call it Christmas, then I think they should have every right to do that no matter what their faith is.

Reply December 25, 2010 - edited
ZombieOverlord

[quote=PreciseShot]Are you a kid? There's been fights about this all the time for the past couple days.

It's Christmas and quit trying to cause flame wars.[/quote]

I'm not causing a flame war, I am merely trying to enlighten people to know what they are celebrating without just blindly accepting it.
Knowledge is power afterall, and you are not one to deny that, right?

Reply December 25, 2010 - edited
ZombieOverlord

[quote=PastaForever]It doesn't really matter. The holiday has evolved to be focused on nothing more than giving (and receiving, advertising, and selling). I don't think religion should have to do with this holiday unless you want it to.[/quote]

Let me try that logic.

Lets say money is generously donated to a charity, but the origin of that money comes from money laundering and illegal drug business.
Is that still okay? The people that find it okay would usually be those that gain from it, but few would express their views against it.

Reply December 25, 2010 - edited
PastaForever

It doesn't really matter. The holiday has evolved to be focused on nothing more than giving (and receiving, advertising, and selling). I don't think religion should have to do with this holiday unless you want it to.

Reply December 25, 2010 - edited