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BtMs are OP.

Disclamer!: I do have a BaM, but the ranking is broken QQ so yah...
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMhwddNQSWQ]please listen to this dong before you read some of the anti BaM comments XD![/url]

okay first of all of there attack skills are mob attacks, they get tele at first job, they can boost there party's attack by 10% in first job. In second job they can boost there speed and weapon attack, use a long range move that stuns, and DOUBLE there weapon speed.
on my BtM i can Ks almost ANYONE, there just that op.
so stop saying BtM<WH and say BtM=WH
Edit: think the new dbs
the next edit: so I made my staff boost skill macro "fstr thn DBs" so whenever someone tries to KS me I use it, and whenever I use it against DBs they call me a noob. XD lol
To many edits! AAAAAHHHH: so anyway I just relized how much hp i have! my lvl 74 evan friend hase like 1.7k hp and I have like 1.6k BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
the most latest edit EVER(zorz)!: I am not complaining merely trolling
Ok so that wasn't the last edit: [b]BaMs HAVE A SKILL THAT DOUBLES THEIR WEAPON SPEED! WITH YELLOW AURA THATS A HUGE BONUS SO MUCH FASTER THAN DBs![/b]
[quote=Aerodynamical]I think both WH and BtM have there advantages and disadvantages.
Can we just leave it at that so everyone's happy?
(Didn't think so...)[/quote]
This v.1.0

[quote=ultrabeast]WHS are the new ksing class. So far (for me at least) I just defend myself from being ks'd.

Staff booster+yellow aura+ normal speed staff=Un ks'able[/quote]

This v.1.1.0

December 22, 2010

44 Comments • Newest first

Zeus

[quote=Fartaura]And I thought BaMs were the lesser OP class and lesser bandwagoner.... That's mainly why I made it.[/quote]
they are less bandwagoner, only because whs can ks most other classes

Reply December 23, 2010
andretheman

@Zeus: I tried on my bm, and I could only go like as far as ligthning, max yellow aura

Reply December 23, 2010
issacrandom

[quote=Gunzbattle]BaMs arent as unique as WHs
BaMs are are certainly unique alright but not as much as WHs just bandit mages (they hit fast and multiple monsters but have low range and rely on M. Atk)
WHs can literally clear the path
They can shoot and move at the same time using their 160% Jaguar (180% if Jaira)
WHs also introduce a brand new concept into the game where one effectively uses ranged and close combat attacks to destroy their opponents[/quote]

Lolwhatunique? In what world is a WH unique anyway?..

Reply December 23, 2010
BlazeLeo

does yellow aura stack with SI (speed infusion bucc skill)

Reply December 23, 2010
dragon332211

[quote=Gunzbattle]Battle Mage < Wild Hunter
Why?
Wild Hunters have no flaws
Battle Mages have a major one (low range)
Also, DBs can KS Battle Mages
DBs have Flash Jump (the fastest movement in the game) and Upper Stab (the most spammable move in the game)[/quote]
Wild hunters do have one flaw.It is attacking small monsters on the mount.

Reply December 23, 2010
Gardor

WHs or BaMs couldn't KS my FP. If anything, they got me exp faster. It was like I was training with a pre-BB bishop.
Mist ftw.

Reply December 23, 2010
sleepyheadXIII

eh, they are not that strong compare to others in 4th job and are more supportive in my opinion while doing pretty decent dmg. I see more WHs everywhere ksing everyone than i do of a Battle Mage =/

Reply December 23, 2010
Zeus

[quote=andretheman]Also, auras, only affect people within the range of (the lightning skill an I/l uses, about that range), and we need to go up close to hit.[/quote]
no auras affect everyone in your party who's name is not grayed out in the party window. So basically there range is the entirety of a medium map and part of a small map

Reply December 23, 2010
andretheman

Also, auras, only affect people within the range of (the lightning skill an I/l uses, about that range), and we need to go up close to hit.

Reply December 23, 2010
Zeus

@Gunzbattle
prove that we cant clear a path quickly
we don't have to keep on teleing forward thats what dark chain is for
Thats the point of staff booster
You can't hit anything close to you
10% TO YOUR PARTY! how much does sharp eyes give?
actually finisher is one of the most powerful skills in the game, as it increases in power with the different blow moves you use before it.
nuff said
do whs have electric or dark skills?
You make a good point there.......
I agree 100% with your last statement (hehehehe)
Just re-pwnd some of your accusations right there

Reply December 23, 2010
ghostme

Looks like BaMs are the center of attention now, maybe I can hear less of the db ks-ing stories

Reply December 23, 2010
johny2toes

I ks'd a lv 12x Shadower on my 5x BaM today

Reply December 23, 2010
nyer4lyfe

I mean I can understand where they're coming from.

Battle mages are short ranged and only have one main attack, where they swing the staff a couple times (gets to 6 in 4th job). They have a little pull thingy to pull far away monsters but that's irrelevant.

so, they make them have unique party skills that are all great. seriously, all the auras are great. and battle mages do massive damage with their attacks, which, as OP mentioned, are all mob moves. and they give them teleport.

but to give battle mages STANCE? WHAT THE HELL. REMOVE. REMOVE. REMOVE.

Reply December 23, 2010
GinSaan

[quote=yoyobrains0]i hope battle mage doesnt turn into a hated class like dualblade[/quote]

Sorry to tell you it will. Thats what happen to new class. Every.Time.

Reply December 23, 2010
yoyobrains0

i hope battle mage doesnt turn into a hated class like dualblade

Reply December 23, 2010
GinSaan

Funny how you are an [b]evan[/b] complaining about these new mages.

Suck it up princess.

Reply December 23, 2010
tobivs

WH has ^ almost no flaws because Of jaguars Attack and RAWR and yes its called Jaguars Rawr Not roar poor show nexon
BattleMage Has problems at lvl 1-70 but around 3rd job it Can Be a ksing machine
ALso WH have hurricane which with a xbow can dish out damage
btw WH has a flaw CDs if u move your Arrow Bomb (yes i know it isnt called this) wont hit em
lvl 4x WH <33 GL TO ALL BATTLE MAGES AND WILD HUNTERS
BTW Bttle mge has a problem with speed

Reply December 23, 2010
Nanitop

Battle Mage Rules

Reply December 23, 2010
MrTouchnGo

QQ...?
Celebrate...?

Reply December 23, 2010
benevolentia

Everyone always has a sook when a new class comes out.
Who cares! Think about it from nexon's point of view. No one is going to play a new class if it's weak as crap, and it's in their best interest to get us to try out the new classes = more potential income.

Reply December 23, 2010 - edited
Zeus

[quote=Gunzbattle]BaMs arent as unique as WHs
BaMs are are certainly unique alright but not as much as WHs just bandit mages (they hit fast and multiple monsters but have low range and rely on M. Atk)
WHs can literally clear the path
They can shoot and move at the same time using their 160% Jaguar (180% if Jaira)
WHs also introduce a brand new concept into the game where one effectively uses ranged and close combat attacks to destroy their opponents[/quote]
Actuly BaMs are so far the most unique class in the game sharing only one move with other mages, tele.
I can clear a path very quickly! its called dark chain quad than finishing.
I can add 10% to my attack
hp leech the opponents
I wouldn't say we have low range, only the blow skills have low range.
yah I'd say that WHs are basically Xbow men on a jaguar.
P.S. BaMs can also shoot and move

Reply December 23, 2010 - edited
xDracius

They are hindered by their close-range requirement.
They also require larger amounts of MP to teleport, as well as no Magic Guard.
That is why they have high amounts of HP, and low amounts of MP to balance them out.

Obviously, they're damage is rather high, but it builds up (Not all in one hit)
For all those complaining about lack of range, you're too used to mages.
Play the Battle Mage like a Warrior that has Teleport.

Reply December 23, 2010 - edited
Leeway46

[quote=Chaseroonie]That's why they have uber party buffs, so they can get into boss runs. [/quote]

[quote=NLrealNL]lolz, WH's have no flaws? They can't even hit a monster when it's too close to them, unlike bm/mm/wa..
BaM has a snatchlike skill, with a loooooongrange =)[/quote]

[quote=DirtMcGirt]They get balanced by not having a decent single target boss attacking skill[/quote]

^ Those

Reply December 23, 2010 - edited
BowmanChris

WH>Btm

Reply December 23, 2010 - edited
AckarRed

theyre not that overpowered in my experience

Reply December 23, 2010 - edited
45642156

When it's possesive it's "their''. Thank you have a nice day. And it's just a game does it really matter?

Reply December 23, 2010 - edited
sparksman24

There's no way Btms are the new db. The thing is, if you're good you can ks anyone, however most aren't. WHs, on the other hand, just run around in circles spamming their skills = new dbs.

Reply December 23, 2010 - edited
lovesupport

They're fine. I can easily KS them on my Evan. lolol.
Someone was trying to take over my map and I can easily KS them.

Reply December 23, 2010 - edited
pinksinsftw

I never liked WH anyway.

Reply December 23, 2010 - edited
deedeedee401

i am making a WH since it shares gear with my sniper and i've gotta say that this is not the new breed of people that the bowman branch want...

Reply December 23, 2010 - edited
SunsetChaos

lol. In Cpq, it was 3 BaM vs 3 WH and us BaM won.

Reply December 23, 2010 - edited
tommay92

There abreviation is BaMs
and i think they should hit the original way when they had to press the keys multiple times like arans instead of the hit 1 time then it attacks 3 times thing

Reply December 23, 2010 - edited
jpen07

[quote=Plushypoo]You mean sins 5 years ago and now and forever?[/quote]

lol true.

Reply December 23, 2010 - edited
Chaseroonie

[quote=DirtMcGirt]They get balanced by not having a decent single target boss attacking skill[/quote]

That's why they have uber party buffs, so they can get into boss runs.

Reply December 22, 2010 - edited
NLrealNL

[quote=Gunzbattle]Battle Mage < Wild Hunter
Why?
Wild Hunters have no flaws
Battle Mages have a major one (low range)
Also, DBs can KS Battle Mages
DBs have Flash Jump (the fastest movement in the game) and Upper Stab (the most spammable move in the game)[/quote]

lolz, WH's have no flaws? They can't even hit a monster when it's too close to them, unlike bm/mm/wa..
BaM has a snatchlike skill, with a loooooongrange =)

Reply December 22, 2010 - edited
Cheezzydude

BaMs AND WHs are OP. They should get nerfed again. Whatever happened to balance? We were doing good with Big Bang part 1. Part 2 killed any hopes of balance :[

Reply December 22, 2010 - edited
DirtMcGirt

They get balanced by not having a decent single target boss attacking skill

Reply December 22, 2010 - edited
cybeast93

Not really, i was training at hoodos/ voodos and a sin comes and ks me T.T, also if we can't mob then everybody creates only whs

Reply December 22, 2010 - edited
Galdone

Wait till mech lol

Reply December 22, 2010 - edited
coolmg

[quote=devishadow]BtM > WH
<3[/quote]
This.

Reply December 22, 2010 - edited
TheAzureBlade

Im glad i picked battlemage then. Now i can take revenge on the WHS that ksed me when i was trying to do the quests

Reply December 22, 2010 - edited
Zeus

[quote=devishadow]BtM > WH
<3[/quote]
or that

Reply December 22, 2010 - edited
devishadow

BtM > WH
<3

Reply December 22, 2010 - edited