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I actually liked that they took it out. I wasted way to much money on it. i AM pretty upset that they took out 2x family rep though..=/

while 2x cards may be gone, the servers are packed
...because packed servers= lost money

the cubes have regained back the money, the other way to train 2x as effeciently is to double your damage so you can kill the monsters twice as fast, so what better thing to use than the cubes.

[quote=superleaf]@ everybody saying its too hard to level 140+.
Hello, your level 140! You are practically 3/4 done with leveling! IT IS SUPPOSE TO TAKE YOU A LONG TIME TO LEVEL! Why don't people understand this? Have either of you guys never played an rpg besides maple pre-bb that you couldn't get some exp buff?[/quote]

4x EXP + HS = 1 Level per hour and a half at Lv.146.
1X + HS = 4 Hour per level.

I've got better things to do sadly... Four hours for one level compared to one hour and thirty minutes, you can see which I prefer.

Cubes and gach are basically the best sellers in cs. 2x cards come third though. And on the contrary, they are probably making more money this way. People take longer to get to 200, therefore would spend more money on cards/gach. Looks like things would change with lionheart castle so this theory might be redundant.

Cubes make the money now

@QuicksilverFX:

LOL, I'm someone with low reading skills? Here, I'll quote what you said earlier:

[quote=QuicksilverFX]If you're ever 135+ you will see how easy it is. I'm enjoy my fast exp rates!

Newbies shouldn't act like it's so hard compared to pre-bb.[/quote]

I told you to check my post earlier, it seems like you're the one who should take their own advice.

Atleast make family buff 2x again.....

[quote=YamiAvater]You might as well have posted this: Nexon please bring back 2x exp coupons because i cannot level without it. It makes me feel rich when i spend my dollar on pixels.

Ah, i love the epic rage nexon has caused over the maple community <3.[/quote]
Where in his post did he say he wants it back? How could you live under that bridge for that long? O_o

Poorly veiled pining for your delicious 2x EXP card, now lost to the mists of time.

@DrkGabs:

They also require lots of movement; our maps are packed with people.

WRONG
The main income sources for NEXON are Gacha, cubes, smegas and MTS

[quote=InLoLiNaToR]Theyre just following KMS, which did the same....

And why do you want the 2x exp cards to be back again? Its friggin easy to level now and if you guys still cant level(Except for the level 100+-ers then), i have to dissapoint you that your a noob and a [b]P[/b]izza [b]S[/b]lice is something where you belong to.

And even if the 2x exp came back, it would be unfair once and again for people that cant buy nx because of their region they live in.[/quote]

In the end cubes were always much more unfair to people who couldn't get NX, training speed....not really.

OT: I don't see what they'd accomplish by doing so, the longer we stay in the game, the more nx we have to buy if we were to use 2x cards 200 would be a joke and guess what nobody would buy any cubes,gach,clothes,pets etc. so instead of them losing all that they just took away 2x cards to get players to stay for longer.

[quote=mast3r4zn]friggen easy to level? talk to me again when you're 130

the good training spots that beat pre BB 2x, even pre bb 4x are crowded and KS grounds (trucker/TJ/gallo) and the other spots are around pre BB 1x, so nexon basically made everyone level slow. unless, of course, you are into KSing people out of their ch[/quote]

Talk to him again after you read what he posted.

the biggest nx items were (and in no particular order)
-Cubes for people to get better % items
-2x exp for people (many more people) to level faster
-ap resets for those who HP wash
-gach for a lot of people
-etc

It's their problem if they lose money, not yours. And they'll probably come up with 1,5 exp cards or something.

This is probably how they're showing us that they aren't all greed.
NEXON DUN WUN PPL 2 SPEND $$ ON NX. C WE TAEK AWAY MOST POPLAR IT3M!

Nexon is SOOOOO greedy and only thinks about profits. So much so that they removed one of their most profitable items from the Cash Shop.

I love how many people constantly whine and complain about Nexon, saying they're only looking for profits, but then the company does something that goes against that statement. The funniest part about this, however? The same people that complained about Nexon being greedy before are now demanding that they bring the item back, so that they can spend money on it all over again.

Almost ironic, isn't it?

It's quite ironic seeing how I see at GameStop couple people within a day everyday buying at least 50k nx cards each visit. And that's also in just one shop.
I think they're getting more than they need already.
2x exp is a factor, maybe the one of the largest contributor of their profit, but not as a whole.
I believe the cubes... that item... are netting about all their payments for their workers, including their bills for the entire year within just single month worth. Have you ever seen how much a single person cube? People literally spent the 100k nx within a single hour or less... maybe 30 mins... 2x exp of even 50 people wouldn't even equal the same profit as cubes would do within 4 hours.

@Shige: I think it will be. 200k per kill with 6 ppl? That's epic! But I think they're considered like bosses so we will need 30% boss damage.

[quote=Shige]i must agree with you... i trained for like 15 minutes at skeles and all i was rewarded with was 6% exp... fml... i cant do this... hopefully the van leon place will be as good as its supposed to be...[/quote]

Lol, 6% in 15 mins is a lot to meXD I remember I used to get like, 10-15% an hour, and I thought that was good

[quote=InLoLiNaToR]Ok then, prepare the whole friggin game to be level 100+ when theyre back. Plus, my option was to make all level 100+ maps bigger and maybe give them some mini dungeons so it wont be so slowass.

But if you guys want 2x exp back, fine. Everyone will be level 100+. Would you maybe like to see that? Maplestory already has become too fast for the low levels. And probably will even become faster. Sure, in my opinion they may buff up the speed for 100+ers, but i dont see why 2x exp needs to get back then. Since that wont only take effect on the high levels....
....but also on the low levels.[/quote]

thats why I said 2x for 120+ only...there should also be a limit to 1 each week and last 1 hour <.< It's friggin ridiculous at every other monster besides gallos, it takes about an hour and a half to lv...and thats on 1.2x the whole time... I wouldn't mind if it only took 1 hour, but yea

Good. I'm glad that they're losing money. They deserve to lose money after all the crap that I have to put up with in the latest update.

so before BB.

people complained that 2x cards make it unfair and how its just a way for nexon to make money...
now, everyone's just worried that nexon wont make money.... v_V

[quote=InLoLiNaToR]Theyre just following KMS, which did the same....[/quote]

kMS didn't have 2x cards to begin with. jMS had them and removed them though.

Yeah but don't you think more people started to play again now that it's easier to get from 1~120?

Nexon IS losing money and WILL continue to.

yea surprised they took it off, its like they actually cared about the game and not the money.
they do lose $ cause lots of ppl do buy 2k cards

I generally don't use 2x exp cards (because I'm cheap like that), but they seriously should bring it back

[quote=InLoLiNaToR]Theyre just following KMS, which did the same....

And why do you want the 2x exp cards to be back again? Its friggin easy to level now and if you guys still cant level(Except for the level 100+-ers then), i have to dissapoint you that your a noob and a [b]P[/b]izza [b]S[/b]lice is something where you belong to.

And even if the 2x exp came back, it would be unfair once and again for people that cant buy nx because of their region they live in.[/quote]

you just stated why we want 2x exp cards back.....it makes all 100+ maps bareable...lol 2x cards only for lvs 120+? that would remove 4th jobbers from gallos

[quote=xiceflamez]The thread is not talking about needing the cards to level or how easy it is to level but the amount of profit that Nexon is losing from the lack of these cards.[/quote]

Doubt it. When people start talking about Nexon's profit, it's usually just an excuse for them to want 2x cards back. Why should we care about how much money they make?

umm no highest money maker is Miracle cube it was one of them. Either way quit whining, you level faster on 1x than ever before and now you have a self hs equivalent(if u were a lone priest training) with family rep. In any case petitions wont help if they do bring them back it will be equivalent to a Pizza Slice. you will have lvl 200's everywhere.

If they would lose money from it, they wouldn't remove it, silly.

Cubes.

It's like soda. People drink Coke all the time and they're happy cause it tastes good. Then they took Coke away and put Pepsi in its place. It's technically the same thing, but very different at the same time. In real life, most people like Coke better than Pepsi. (if anyone wants to say that it isn't that way, I won't stop you) Some people like Pepsi, but miss Coke. Some people don't care cause they don't have the money to buy either.

My point is that even though there's a majority, there is no real right answer. There are people who like Coke and there are people who like Pepsi. Neither is right or wrong. (btw replace Coke with 2x exp and Pepsi with Miracle Cubes and it'll make more sense)

[quote=Tatterdragon]Key word: I have heard that 2x EXP cards [b]were[/b] the most popular item in the Cash Shop.

2x exp cards haven't been at the top for a while now. Miracle cubes took that place the week (maybe
even the day) they came out, and they haven't left since.

I think cubes have quite effectively replaced 2x cards as Nexon's biggest source of income now -
enough so that they can remove 2x cards and still be better off than before cubes.[/quote]

those were [b]only[/b] the 4 hour 2x cards...
btw cubes are only 1.2k nx 2x cards can go up to 15k.

@fedly: Oh, yeah under lv 100 is very easy. 100-120 seems pretty decent. after that, no.

[quote=mikorosky]@UltimaStarzz:
I'd say calling them "idiots" is a bit offensive, and they are more like ignorant or naive if anything.
Nevertheless, your point about the petitions is clear and I agree with it.[/quote]

I know what you mean. Yes, I know it's offensive, and I only use 'idiot', because these are the SAME people who circulate the same rumors or 'he said she said' crap, wander around with their mouths open, following the crowd, not knowing what they're talking about. People fail to see two sides of an argument, or think economically or 'outside of the box' on some of the actions Nexon takes, which is what offends me. Anywho, my point on petitions, is that as long as there is a REAL reason to change something, it should be proposed, not, "Oh, I didn't find a Maple Shield this year, petition to give ALL players a FREE Maple weapon this year!".

I'm happy now since I don't buy nx.

TRAIN LIKE EVERYONE ELSE NOW HAHAHAHA

didnt ppl used to complain how 2x cards were to long. now everyone is complaining cause they are gone lol

Just a couple of thoughts...

To the "Nexon isn't losing money, they're gaining less money." all I can say is that if, as I believe, Nexon is generating less income now than they were before then they are losing money. Don't confuse a philosophic argument with a corporate bottom line.

To those who feel that cubes took over the #1 spot from 2x EXP cards, you're probably right. But as others have suggested, let me ask this question. What is the point to spending a fortune (OK... I only spent around $80) on cubes when I can only kill monsters, at most, up to five levels above my level thanks to the BB accuracy formula? Honestly, how much damage do I need to do to kill monsters my own level? Thanks to BB, I can't justify the expense. And since most bosses are nerfed, I don't need the damage for them either. Just a thought....

I need like, 360 mill xp on my bishop to level >_>

Although, according to my calculations it'll still take around the same time pre-BB with 4x, and now post BB....

about nine hours.... =.=

All of my high level friends are QQing about leveling lol

[quote=QuicksilverFX]If you're ever 135+ you will see how easy it is. I'm enjoy my fast exp rates!

Newbies shouldn't act like it's so hard compared to pre-bb.[/quote]

This doesn't make any sense at all, you should check out my post earlier in this thread.

what... are you serious? with the new exp curve?

hellooo cubes?

[quote=blazi4ever]Try getting to 130+, I wonder if you'll still believe it's so "easy" to level here. I can BARELY even get 4% an hour training at RoR1 (that's as far as I can go without missing, I can go to RoR2 but a 10% miss rate is critical on damaging) while I'm able to get 6% an hour training at skeles before BB on 1x.

As for getting NX for outer regions, learn to merch from MTS; that's the only solution.[/quote]

At level 15x, 4% an hour is absolutely terrible, even on 1x.... You shouldn't be getting that little EXP an hour, even before BB on 1x I know people who got better EXP than that at 15x

[quote=InLoLiNaToR]Theyre just following KMS, which did the same....

And why do you want the 2x exp cards to be back again? Its friggin easy to level now and if you guys still cant level(Except for the level 100+-ers then), i have to dissapoint you that your a noob and a [b]P[/b]izza [b]S[/b]lice is something where you belong to.

And even if the 2x exp came back, it would be unfair once and again for people that cant buy nx because of their region they live in.[/quote]

Try getting to 130+, I wonder if you'll still believe it's so "easy" to level here. I can BARELY even get 4% an hour training at RoR1 (that's as far as I can go without missing, I can go to RoR2 but a 10% miss rate is critical on damaging) while I'm able to get 6% an hour training at skeles before BB on 1x.

As for getting NX for outer regions, learn to merch from MTS; that's the only solution.

This sounds extremely stupid and illogical...but...

WIthout 2x EXP you level slower. It takes you longer to get to level 200. You have to buy more Nx clothes along the way.

Anyways, they took out all that perm nx, so that somewhat gives back?

[quote=Tobiaz]Does everyone keep forgetting cubes? They're probably making a TON more money on cubes then they ever made on 2x EXP. And don't forget Gachapon. Trust me, they're not going bankrupt over that decision.[/quote]

What good are cubes when it takes much longer to actually level up (at higher levels, of course) and truly enjoy the benefits of godly gear?

Oooh, I can have a godly damage-dealing level 125 character. Big deal. Everyone across all level ranges can 1 hit KO the mobs they train on. I was playing around on my ring mules, who range from 50 to 148. Most of them are fairly naked, except for whatever lame weapon I left on them so they can use skills. And they are pretty much able to kill anything their same level due to the buffed skills.

I see absolutely no need to actually work for 12% dex items vs. 3% dex items on my Sair, for example. As long as I'm stuck fighting 138 and below mobs, I 1 hit KO them.).

So, 2X not being around to help me level, coupled with the lack of being able to fight higher level mobs than me, pretty much means I have no incentive to buy NX anymore. There's literally nothing in the ash shop that remotely interests me.

1-100 is a breeze, virtually naked, without any cubed gear. 110+ is sickly slow to level compared to before, so I just won't level thoee characters anymore. Where's the incentive to spend money on NX again?

At least before cubing meant I could level much faster, storm Skelies at 115, Storm the ToT at 120, all that fun stuff. Now... meh, they are spoon-feeding me noobish monsters that give lousy XP (at higher levels) and making me "miss" anything that's remotely challenging.

Ok, so are you looking at Nexon's numbers right now? Are you 100% sure they are losing money? Please, none of us know exactly the income of Nexon. (When I say income, I mean everything, not just a crappy internet page saying "x" number.)

It's true that the 2exp cards were one of the most popular nx items but, it's stupidid to say Nexon is losing money because they removed it.