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[quote=ShadeCaro]But it's true, people who generally hate PvP suck at it / never tried it.[/quote]
Well I'm rank 5 and I didn't play a lot just when it came out, so I think myself as good/pro but not godly or all above that, but whatever its broken and people who play ms or pvp the most have a lot of advantage with stuff like getting pvp armor, ambition, etc.

[quote=Edwinight]Yes please, what a piece of crap.
inb4 people say, "That's what people who suck say"
Unbalanced is all I see.[/quote]

But it's true, people who generally hate PvP suck at it / never tried it.

the real problem will be the decent skill renting, you cant glitch them anymore, meaning that if you need decent hb, se, haste etc you will need to cube your own stuffs..... nice move nexon

[quote=MrLidor]I wish. pvp sucks so much.[/quote]

Well, PvP was good until Nexon tried to fix it, which made it into a horrible nerf with delayed attacks...
OT: PvP is going to be removed temporarily, as a few others said. However, if you're needing gallant emblems, you can get them during the Liberation of Aswan.

Yes please, what a piece of crap.
inb4 people say, "That's what people who suck say"
Unbalanced is all I see.

[quote=AngelSpirit]I have a Marksman and score 1500+ points regularly on it. He has made himself two Rising Sun equipments and a full set of Wind Walker armor.

Seriously. While I agree that OP classes need to be nerfed down, all it truly takes is skill, and you can play any class. I have, at one time or another, seen every class dominate the arena (except WH).

While I can't speak for anyone else, I, for one, completely disagree with closing down PVP and making Gallant Emblems obtainable from monsters. It's a spit in the face to everyone who took the time and effort to become skilled in PVP.[/quote]
I had to get 30 emblems, on a [b]DB[/b]
Its not that they suck, but they need a lot of skill, and I lag so hard lol...

[quote=TheLittlestM]I think they should make it like the saving the little boys thing, you get called into the map with people similiar of your level and fight.[/quote]

Terrible idea. I love carnival but at carnival it's the same thing. Nobody ever accepts the invite and we always end up not doing the PQ. It'll be the same thing in a while for the little boys thing. People will realize it doesn't give them anything good and they will stop going.

Pvp was good..... when it first came out. But still, they shouldn't remove it. It's a nice place to hand out

I enjoy PVP, even if it is unbalanced. To give it your best shot and having fun, that's where it's at. The points don't matter to me.

Edit: I mean, I enjoy my NL a lot, so just chucking Stars a ton and getting a few kills on other players is fun for me.

@ImKafei: Thank you very much! Good stoof.

Ima miss pvp D:

Why should I be grateful for a glitch? I do not care how much money it saves me because I will never do it. I do not wish to associate myself with any sort of hacking/glitching and this Decent glitch is no exception. If this was truly a good idea, then Nexon should implement it as an actual system within the game. Otherwise, get rid of it. It was not their intention to make Decent skills like that and therefore it should be removed from the game. I don't care how many people say "Oh, but it doesn't hurt anyone and it saves so much money!" That does not change the fact that this should not be possible within the game. I am not here to argue about the existence of this glitch, my opinions are mine alone. I understand that I am one of the few people (if any) who feels this way towards Decent skills and I am not here to start anything. Any sort of argument that arises will be because of yourself and yourself only.

Edit: Awesomeplayer2, you are very ignorant to say everyone who does not like the Decent skill glitch is jealous of those who have it. I could care less whether you have Decent skills or not. The fact of the matter is that it is a glitch. THAT is why I dislike it. Please learn not to immediately assume things in the future.

if you don't like pvp than don't pvp.
if you don't like the glitched decent skills than it is beacause you can't afford it and you'r jealous of the people who can and you want them to not have it.
basicly without pvp maplestory will be only about grinding,bossing and being afk.
pvp makes this game more intrensting.
some are very mad about people who kill them all the time beacause they are an op class.
it is wrong,it all matters about you'r control and battle mode attack and level.
for example i already seen buccs that count as one the worst class pass my scores on the matches i am with them,and i use my battle mage to pvp.
basicly if you hate pvp than don't be happy beacause it is being ruined for the ones who like it.

[quote=x3Inferno]It needs to be deleted and completely redone if there is going to be a PvP at all. The delayed atks, overpowering classes just ruin the point of having PvP. Maybe if Nexon would just make all classes balance when they first came out we wouldn't have a need for all these upcoming revamps.[/quote]

Most likely they will follow with KMS, they are temporarily removing it, meaning that it will come back in the future, maybe revamped? (KMS)

@Akatsuki0826 : You should be grateful that you can obtain decent skills without spending nx or $$ on cubing. It is easy to obtain and cost so little comparing on the amount of cubes u have to buy. Nexon probably knew the glitch long ago but did nothing and let it slide even though it was a threat to their profits.

I was completely against the Decent skill idea from the beginning. It was a horrible idea and it simply divided the players even more for they had less of a need to party with other players. Not only that, but the fact that you could glitch the skill and use it without it even taking up one of your lines was just ridiculous. While I am saddened by the fact that Nexon is removing PvP, I wholeheartedly support the fact that this means no more Decent skill glitching and I hope when they bring PvP back, you will not be able to glitch it ever again.

@SethEXE: Oh pipe down and get off your high horse, it wasn't even that bad off a glitch, the reason they were removing it is because it wasn't as popular as they hoped it would be. They have bigger problems at hand, you would probably be all over trying to get decent skills if you could afford any.

[quote=Gonochoristic]And there's the problem. Nexon made the pvp system based off gallant emblems, there's hackers in bello which ruin it by farming their own kills and make a living off that. I see an influx of people with pvp OPed class so they can farm the emblems too.

If they did it for enjoyment for players that wanted to have pvp in this game (although can't say that it goes well in hand for maple).
If they really wanted to fix it up, they should just leave the classes as they are and let them battle. Whats the point of having warriors (usually high hp) and getting their hp cut? I would look forward to having it revamped, but just not left in this current state.[/quote]

A lot of the classes are viable so it's not terrible (Bow Master, Wild Hunter, Buccaneer, Corsair, Blade Master, Night Lord, Heros are the classes that aren't viable; that's 7 out of 21 classes, excluding Cygnus)
but revamp would be great (remove ultimates or something because 343434 ults at once causes lag & you basically cannot do anything because you die as soon as you drop down)

@SethEXE: Exactly how does the Decent skill thing cause more problems? People are not getting hacked from it, people can make money off it, and people have a large source of decent skills. If that didn't exist then it would be like WABRs where only super rich people could have it and everyone would hate that

[quote=Gonochoristic]Yes. remove it. Pvp was only profitable to those that had op classes. Finally, nexon is doing something about OPed classes[/quote]

I have a Marksman and score 1500+ points regularly on it. He has made himself two Rising Sun equipments and a full set of Wind Walker armor.

Seriously. While I agree that OP classes need to be nerfed down, all it truly takes is skill, and you can play any class. I have, at one time or another, seen every class dominate the arena (except WH).

While I can't speak for anyone else, I, for one, completely disagree with closing down PVP and making Gallant Emblems obtainable from monsters. It's a spit in the face to everyone who took the time and effort to become skilled in PVP.

Hate on pvp Skills being Delayed, some buffs cant be used and of course The epic mule battles

I don't understand why they would remove Pvp. If players don't want to pvp they don't have to, but why get rid of it?

[quote=Asiaox123]Rent them now? Or else you won't be able to later.[/quote]

I am so glad I quit this game. I can see it now... S> Decent skill "OVERPRICED" before pvp gets removed. That's pure genius and cruel at the same time

[quote=xunknownx]PvP is fun and all but in less populated worlds like Galicia it's hard to find enough people for it[/quote]
you will be suprised to see how many people go in to my TW matches on the more people online hours and don't agree to leave and than we all go on them not allowing them to get points untill they leave

PvP is fun and all but in less populated worlds like Galicia it's hard to find enough people for it

[quote=KniteX0]We may or may not have pvp removed (since pvp was a gms idea)[/quote]

I'm pretty sure KMS came up with the idea first

@Necro8062: Nexon can't even do a good job at balancing the classes outside of PvP; what makes you think that they'll succeed for PvP

@Necro8062: They don't have this glitch with decent skills in KMS, and I understand why are they doing this, I'm not againts that, I'm just asking why the heck do they have to bring down PVP if they're just going to revamp it?, it's like you wouldn't be able to play your brawler 'till they get the revamp patch done

@KniteX0, the hell you talking about? PVP it's KMS idea, GMS exclusive it's just CTF

We may or may not have pvp removed (since pvp was a gms idea)

[quote=Psydei]idk why they remove it if they are going to put it back again, why don't they just revamp it w/o removing it? -.-[/quote]

I know right? >_>

idk why they remove it if they are going to put it back again, why don't they just revamp it w/o removing it? -.-

[quote=darklord666]Sounds good! I would like to see a source to this information though as I could not find it on southperry and this is the first time I am reading about the items possibly* becoming drops from monsters.[/quote]

http://orangemushroom.wordpress.com/2011/12/14/kms-ver-1-2-148-the-beginning-of-the-counterattack/
CTRL+F "Super fight"

[quote=nightclubs2]basically... they will remove it for good.
the new way to get the gallant battle thing is it drops from a monsters[/quote]

Sounds good! I would like to see a source to this information though as I could not find it on southperry and this is the first time I am reading about the items possibly* becoming drops from monsters.

[quote=BurningBladeIV]-sigh- yea its getting removed or revamp, to make all those QQing people be quiet, cause they suck at PvP.[/quote]

I can understand why some people would be complaining though. Bow Masters, Heros, Corsairs, Wild Hunters, Night Lords, Blade Masters, & Marksmen are all really underpar especially compared to the Magic user classes

-sigh- yea its getting removed or revamp, to make all those QQing people be quiet, cause they suck at PvP.

[quote=piizo]if this is true and nexon is removing it.. i would now like to reveal the secret to scoring easy high scores
#1- battle attack (obviously)
#2- speed ( in all forms. attack speed, skill speed and how 1 alternates between skills, etc) even internet speed: those who live far away from nexon HQ know wat im talking about..
#3- critical rate/ damage % boost u get from critical base( rings and other equips that give critical % excludes potential )except 180+mode. example: a shadower with explorer critical ring will be more likely to do get more points from 1 bstep, compared to a shadower without it, since crits get more points along with excellents/great/and Nice per bstep... normaly, bstep only does hit/hit damage...but with higher criticals % u have a possiblity to have sum nice/nice hits or criticals..
#4- hp/mp % and def % play a big role in pvp (agian excluding potential since 120+ doesnt factor those in)

this is my look at pvp and is completely my opinion.. although it miight have sum truth to it.. just wanted to let some ppl know if they were wondering ...[/quote]

By high scoring... you mean 4k right?

I liked pvp =(

[quote=JJoestar]I'm not a fan of pvp at all, I don't really like it.
So I got this awesome idea: I just do not pvp.
Why "omg awesome yayay!1" ?[/quote]

Your Green~

Good riddance to that buggy, laggy, hilariously unbalanced piece of trash that screwed you royally if you weren't one of the OP classes, in a populated server or live close to LA.

Take it out and revamp the hell out of it. Give EVERY class a chance to hold their own, and for the love of everything beautiful, DON'T MAKE US DEPEND ON OTHER PEOPLE TO GET OUR EQUIPS!

i hope they don't
pvp is one of my favorite things to do

[quote=Popdulle]Omg they are going to remove pvp? :o
awesome, i hated the pvp [/quote]

I'm not a fan of pvp at all, I don't really like it.
So I got this awesome idea: I just do not pvp.
Why "omg awesome yayay!1" ?

It might leave, but maybe GMS will let it stay as KMS revamps it because it is more popular in GMS like Lionheart Castle was supposed to be nerfed.

[quote=x3Inferno]It needs to be deleted and completely redone if there is going to be a PvP at all. The delayed atks, overpowering classes just ruin the point of having PvP. Maybe if Nexon would just make all classes balance when they first came out we wouldn't have a need for all these upcoming revamps.[/quote]

Yea. i mean, im not BAD at pvp. But when i can 1v1 5 people in a row, thats just sad.

what will happend with decent skills... -cough- -cough- if u know what i mean...

[quote=Hualicious]Do you know how the drop rate is for the Gallant Emblems?[/quote]

About the same as PoT from ToT
Apparently.

[quote=HelixKing]pvp is being replaced by cross server pvp called aswan
gallant emblems will drop from mobs lv 50+
inkwell will have all the items you are able to trade in for gallant emblems.[/quote]

Do you know how the drop rate is for the Gallant Emblems?

pvp is being replaced by cross server pvp called aswan
gallant emblems will drop from mobs lv 50+
inkwell will have all the items you are able to trade in for gallant emblems.

[quote=Dizzzayum]OMG, as it should be.

I enjoy the PVP enough...I guess. I'm not exactly in love with it.

But I DO think that the Emblems are a little bit on the crazy side of difficult to get. I mean, come on, the level 120 shoulders require you to have 34 of them to craft. That's nuts. And yes I understand that it shouldn't necessarily be "easy" to acquire this stuff, but it shouldn't take quite THAT much time.[/quote]

I wouldn't mind it if that place wasn't deserted. Most of the PQs are death too, only few people go there from time to time. Most of the channels are empty. So far I noticed Romeo & Juliet PQ was full (Scania) when it is a 'busy' time, but other PQs nope. And compared to long time ago it was hard to PQ because of the crowd and now it is deserted and hard to do PQ as well.

Let's hope they revamp the PvP and make it more enjoyable.

The PvP will be removed in Justice patch, but you can still hunt for Gallant Emblems from monsters and trade them in at the NPC for items.

It needs to be deleted and completely redone if there is going to be a PvP at all. The delayed atks, overpowering classes just ruin the point of having PvP. Maybe if Nexon would just make all classes balance when they first came out we wouldn't have a need for all these upcoming revamps.

i hope PvP is not going to disappear....

i was just learning how it works....

That is what is "suppose" to happen the BP exp system gets replaced with the new Aswan thing.
Hopefully though GMS decides to keep it, I find it fun, and I also still need one more decent skill </3

what i heard was it will be removed,dont hold it to me, and will be replaced with monsters dropping gallant emblems

ahh ok ty for the info guys