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Aran

need some help from screwing up my Sp

So lets just say I maxed out Fenrir instead of Final attack for whatever stupid reason. Would it be better, until we get an SP reset from whatever, to just not max it, causing me to be unable to get AFA, or to not max Final Toss and use those points towards maxing Final attack instead, then fixing it all later.

I'm lvl 111 btw.

THANKS!

EDIT: Probably helpful to note that I maxed Rolling Spin instead of Judgement and usually use that as my primary attack, and almost never use Final Toss ATM.

November 4, 2012

15 Comments • Newest first

PressF13

[quote=Raiden][url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlPXKzzroTw&feature=youtu.be]A bit late, but here.[/url]

Delivered.[/quote]

Looks like I need a new keyboard

Reply November 7, 2012
Raiden

[quote=PressF13]Gameplay I guess[/quote]

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlPXKzzroTw&feature=youtu.be]A bit late, but here.[/url]

Delivered.

Reply November 7, 2012 - edited
phoenix23

[quote=ImSoSteezy]You kinda messed up. Rolling Spin sucks unless you're hitting max all of the time. Final Toss is our best move that CAN be spammed and have the highest DPM.[/quote]
In 3rd job, Rolling Spin is better than Full Swing.
In 4th job, Rolling Spin is a fantastic mob-control skill.
And Rolling Spin is better than OSFB when it hits 530k's, not max.

[quote=PressF13]If you want to spam Final Toss in 4th job, DON'T PUT ANY SP ON JUDGEMENT. I seriously regret doing that. Unless you have a game controller that spams Final Toss, Judgement will just keep on ruining FT when you finally get a 100+ combo (thus causing less DPS, since +3 weapon attack every 10 combos).[/quote]
This is bad advice. First of all, unless you have fat ogre hands, then it's entirely possible to spam Final Toss without accidentally using Judgment. Just use distinct keystrokes. No need to mash your keyboard with your fists. Don't press up and down at the same time. Pay attention to the order in which you press the keys. It's not difficult.
Second of all, 10 in Judgment is a requirement for Tempest.

[quote=brandiano]^^Need 20 for Combo Tempest >.>[/quote]

No, just 10.

[quote=SAMsboytoy]dont level final toss TRUST ME after a 50k range its practically useless (im at a 100k and i didnt max it or sudden strike [2] and i still hit cap with it....) dont max it PLEASE [/quote]
More bad advice.
With unmaxed FT and/or SS, at 100k it's impossible to hit max with FT. Let alone 50k.
Additionally, what else would you put your points in at 3rd job? Judgment is A) Useless B) Detrimental to DPS and C) Suffers from the same problem, it's easy to cap with even unmaxed.

Reply November 5, 2012 - edited
brandiano

@Raiden: Awww yeah, Thanks a lot dude =D

Reply November 5, 2012 - edited
PressF13

[quote=Raiden]And video, hmm. I don't have fraps, and it's been awhile since I've used camstudio, nor do I have a phone available to record this.
I'll get back to you on that and edit my post. I mean... would you like just gameplay? A video of my fingers?[/quote]

Gameplay I guess

Reply November 4, 2012 - edited
Raiden

[quote=PressF13]Then you're probably using FT really slow or you're Jesus. But I doubt you never use Judgement on accident while spamming FT really fast.
Video, please.[/quote]

I suppose I get decent practice from playing piano + fighting games and all that.
It's a simple concept, really. V ^in a measure, and simultaneously press attack while pressing up, repeat.

The reason for mess up is when the Attack key comes too slow for the Up key, and eventually the computer recognizes ^ V instead.

Besides, I'm not only restricted to just FT. I'm free to use OS FB any time in the spamming to refresh the 100 attack limit.

And video, hmm. I don't have fraps, and it's been awhile since I've used camstudio, nor do I have a phone available to record this.
I'll get back to you on that and edit my post. I mean... would you like just gameplay? A video of my fingers?

Reply November 4, 2012 - edited
PressF13

[quote=Raiden]Oh please, it isn't difficult to spam FT. I never use judgment by accident.[/quote]

Then you're probably using FT really slow or you're Jesus. But I doubt you never use Judgement on accident while spamming FT really fast.
Video, please.

Reply November 4, 2012 - edited
Raiden

[quote=brandiano]Waitt a second, for tempest do you need Judgement 10 or 20? I am so confused right now[/quote]

Just as Fenrir and Smash only need 10, I can definitely confirm that Judgment only needs 10. Or else there'd be no way to max rolling spin.

Reply November 4, 2012 - edited
brandiano

[quote=Raiden]Oh please, it isn't difficult to spam FT. I never use judgment by accident.

Keep 10 points in Judgment and max out Rolling Spin. That's how 3rd job goes.

I'd normally say to leave points out of Rolling spin to put into FA for now, but there's really no other place for the points to come out of. Leave it out of FT for now, I guess, but max it later if a SP reset comes.[/quote]

Waitt a second, for tempest do you need Judgement 10 or 20? I am so confused right now

Reply November 4, 2012 - edited
Raiden

Oh please, it isn't difficult to spam FT. I never use judgment by accident.

Keep 10 points in Judgment and max out Rolling Spin. That's how 3rd job goes.

I'd normally say to leave points out of Rolling spin to put into FA for now, but there's really no other place for the points to come out of. Leave it out of FT for now, I guess, but max it later if a SP reset comes.

Reply November 4, 2012 - edited
Wardrako

Hopefully with the help of hyper skills and Beyonder, FT will be finally be beat.

Reply November 4, 2012 - edited
PressF13

I'd put Dps before an ultimate.

Reply November 4, 2012 - edited
brandiano

^^Need 20 for Combo Tempest >.>

Reply November 4, 2012 - edited
PressF13

nvmm

Reply November 4, 2012 - edited
brandiano

@above Yeahh, Im gonna fix it all when we get SP resets again, but for now whats my best options?

Probably max Final attack and judgement?

Reply November 4, 2012 - edited