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[quote=itachi827]@uiluj4: Uh oh, you're on to me!

But seriously, it's not even the people I hang out. Usually I hang out with the swim team. But it's conversations that I'll overhear. I'm an observant guy and listen to and retain pretty much everything I hear, and you wouldn't believe how annoying fat people complaining about how fat they are is (< that sentence doesn't make a whole lotta sense...)

I just wish that there was a law or something about fat people complaining about being fat...[/quote]

I agree that it's irritating when fat people complain about something they've brought upon themselves (most of the time- again, one probably doesn't understand all of their circumstances) , but they're most likely just displaying frustration toward themselves. Have you been angry at yourself for getting bad marks on an exam? Trying to bring those points up is a tough thing to do that requires focus and determination, right? Such is the case with fat people. The control and discipline required to change one's diet which is in essence a very large chunk of one's lifestyle is tough to muster indeed. So though it is hard to sympathize with fat people after listening to them complain often, do try to understand that not many fat people enjoy being large as they are and may well be in the process of trying to change themselves.

[quote=Momo123]I'm skinny so I wouldn't know, but I assume losing weight for fat people is just as hard as gaining weight for skinny people. One thing they both have in common is you need motivation to be on that equilibrium level.[/quote]

It's actually not nearly as hard to gain weight as it is to lose it. Fat people tend to have more lethargy and psychological problems when working out than skinny people. Not to mention, once you begin exercising, your body will become hungry as it requires more nutrients than before.

People aren't going to lose weight or start eating healthier because they don't care. Yeah, they complain about being too fat all the time, but if they really cared as much about their eight then they would do something about it. You can't make people get skinner by lecturing them. THEY have to want to get skinny, they have to WANT to change their lifestyle, or they won't do it. You can't force someone to eat healthy/exercise.

I know your Basil ID say you're beta but it's actually some damn alpha advice you're giving out (100% srs). I also fully agree. Take responsibility and control over your life instead of whining about how ugly or overweight you feel. Obviously there's exceptions if you REALLY do have something that prevents you from being fully healthy but most excuses people give out are just pure BS to not improve themselves.

Get out there and start making a change for yourself. You'll feel better and realize society isn't as bad as you thought it was.

I'm skinny so I wouldn't know, but I assume losing weight for fat people is just as hard as gaining weight for skinny people. One thing they both have in common is you need motivation to be on that equilibrium level.

Oh, boy. You think you have a right to criticize people's weight without knowing their backstory first? Even if someone overweight by neglect, how does that keep [i]you[/i] from being decent about it? If you want people to be less 'disgusting', you might want to try positive encouragement or maybe go gain a couple hundred pounds and report back to basil.

Weight always seemed really strange to me. My sister has always been a little heavier than me even from early childhood (she's a dress size 8, while I'm a dress size 4), but we eat similar diets and exercise the same amount, and I daresay she exercises more than me. Her body's shape seems to have determined how much she weighs.

[quote=LazyLazyLazy]Poor people are not fat[/quote]

Clearly you've never waited in line behind food stamp recipients at a grocery store... God, it cracks me up when I hear those people claiming they're starving to death when meanwhile they look like they're on the verge of having a heart attack.

Poor people are not fat

This thread has a good point. I like it. With people in the United States suing McDonald's or the schools for being overweight, we need more people to point out (bluntly) that people have the ability to actually live healthier on their own.

@CastilloHero: it's not about driving there and getting back, I'm not just talking about fast food chains. What about frozen "fastfood" like Pizza, Lasagna, Fries or "canfood". You can buy those in bulks and store them - it doesn't take long to "cook" it (maybe 2 minutes for canfood with a microwave) and there's probably nothing cheaper anyway. At least I can't imagine doing so with the food prices in Germany

Solution: Stop talking to girls on maplestory.
Anyways, all jokes aside... (though I think your post was a joke anyways o-o) I'm pretty sure most of the girls you were talking to were just normal, and overdramatic teenage girls that think they're fat even though they're like 100 pounds or something. Also, I don't know why you said "nonasian"... I'm asian and perfectly chubby. <3

There are several "excuses" for obesity... it can be in the genes or can be some other physical disorder. I also have a friend who used to be very thin - then she had an accident and ever since she's chubby and just can't get away from it.

As for food - you may have noticed that all the unhealthy crap is much cheaper than all the healthy things. I saw something on TV about an American family that has 2 children (mom, dad, and 2 girls) and they had REALLY few money. The mom said it IS frustrating that she can't do it otherwise but buying some unhealthy meal is much cheaper than just a few veggies. For the money of a fastfood meal for 4 people she could barely get the same amount of fresh foods - aside from the time factor cause neither of them have any time to cook at home.

[quote=punx]Wait
Non asian girls? I know and have heard of plenty asian girls with eating disorders and distorted body images[/quote]

Wait
Girls? I know and have heard of plenty of boys with eating disorders and distorted body images.

Wait
Non asian girls? I know and have heard of plenty asian girls with eating disorders and distorted body images

maybe the people you talk to are just G.I.R.L. who's trolling you

[quote=itachi827]You can overcome genetics. All it takes is hardwork and perseverance. I used to be overweight. Around 160 pounds going into middle school, so I joined the swim team to slim down. I ended up losing weight as well as growing taller. I swam 10+ hours a week when I just started. Even though it was ridiculously painful and I was sore everyday, I kept at it. Most people that are fat do not give this kind of dedication, and that is why the majority of fat people are fat. Granted, this is not the case for 100% of them, but this is the case for almost all of them.

Also, you can not use metabolism as an excuse. I have done countless hours of research on how to speed up my metabolism. I used to have an incredibly slow metabolism, but no longer.

Also also, you say you work harder than most people, yet you also say you sit around home all day.[/quote]

By genetic factors, I was mostly referring to things such is Diabetes, Heart Disease, Asthma, etc.

I went through Advanced classes all my life and went to start my Bachelor of Environmental Science soon after my 17th Birthday. I kept fit and had a personal trainer throughout the later years of High School but lost everything when i discovered i had a cancerous brain tumor that has drastically impaired my life (Read my other post in this thread for details).

@betaboi101: Exactly.

[quote=Rezoina]@betaboi101: Thought I have never been overweight, I can't particularly relate to your empathy, but when people around you are always eating that tub of ice cream or family sized chips, your perception on how much to eat, becomes particularly obscured. I saw it happen to a kid I knew, his mom always ate and never moved from the TV and so did that son too. That thing you talk about in accordance to what people can control on how much they eat usually becomes at an "eat till your stomach explodes" instead of "eat healthy" because people think that eating the maximum is the healthy.[/quote]

It can be the case where a parent has enabled their child to eat unhealthy amounts like themselves but after a certain point when a child becomes independent it is up to them to make an initiative and change. A lot of non asian girls I have encountered in maplestory have weight insecurities and seem like they gave up on even trying to lose weight. A lot of their parents give them negetive feedback and they give up rather than use the mean comments as a motivator. Either way, I have a friend in real life that has a heart disorsder and she went from over 200 lbs to less than 130 in a few years. If she can pull that off, it just goes to show that any excuse is unacceptable. If you can admit that you are overwight then you can take action and change it. Just like a drug addict or one with an eating disorder can. At above, that's awful, and I'm very sorry to hear about your struggle. Cancer is lifechanging. I have another friend that still gets treatments every break. She has put on weight but cut down on food intake just to hopefully get back to her old figure. You're a survivor though which is awesome! Kudos you hopefully got through the worst

[quote=betaboi101]Its also true that our society is over obsessed with the media. According to the media being unaturally thin is in. Its funny how american eating culture contradicts the media even though next to everyone is obsessed with their appearence and wants to feel beautiful. People can control what they eat. You don't need to eat everything on your plate for dinner. Portion control is possible with reading lables. At the comment above, if you know you have a bad metabolism or are on a medication that can make you gain weight you should go out of your way to eat extremely healthy. Its liveable. I had surgery and was unable to workout for two weeks (which was a long time for me because I have been on a daily routine for over a year). I watched my diet heavily and ate a very low fat intake with healthy choices. I was able to live day by day with lima beans for lunch (no butter) soup with vegetables for dinner, and yogurt smoothies blended with fruit and no fat milk (no sugar or anything). After two weeks I didn't gain any weight and retained the same figure. It takes discipline and noboday has any excuses.[/quote]

Funny story, come back when you have a cancerous tumor in the centre of your brain, causing many incredibly important hormones to shut down and disrupt your bodies normal functioning, causing extreme lethargy and weakness. I was loosing weight dramatically because i didn't want to eat anymore and just drank water all day everyday, around 10 Litres per day. This needed urgent attention and the medication i take to correct this disrupts my appetite a lot. Not to mention i'm just finishing recovering from a failed brain surgery (Which i have to go have again in a few weeks time) amongst all my MRI Appointments, Blood tests, CT Scans, Endocrinology / Neurosurgeon visits.

Not to mention I've become so weak i couldn't even run (tripped because my legs couldn't support the weight).

I'd love to see if you still think "noboday" has any excuses still, sooner or later you will enter the real world and you will find things out the hard way, just like i did.

@betaboi101: Thought I have never been overweight, I can't particularly relate to your empathy, but when people around you are always eating that tub of ice cream or family sized chips, your perception on how much to eat, becomes particularly obscured. I saw it happen to a kid I knew, his mom always ate and never moved from the TV and so did that son too. That thing you talk about in accordance to what people can control on how much they eat usually becomes at an "eat till your stomach explodes" instead of "eat healthy" because people think that eating the maximum is the healthy.

[quote=Rezoina]A lot of those people can't help it when society, especially in the US wants every [i]single[/i] thing super sized. Many times (seen this happen too many times) you'll see an American getting something at a restaurant abroad, and they'll complain about the size of the meal, when in actuality it's the correct portion size recommended.

And many Americans don't even notice how bad something is either. I had a friend do his project on "Obesity in America" and gave out perogies and by the time he was done with his presentation, no one realized they just ate 3 days worth of calories...

And people wonder why shows like "The Biggest Loser" is such a hit in America.[/quote]

Its also true that our society is over obsessed with the media. According to the media being unaturally thin is in. Its funny how american eating culture contradicts the media even though next to everyone is obsessed with their appearence and wants to feel beautiful. People can control what they eat. You don't need to eat everything on your plate for dinner. Portion control is possible with reading lables. At the comment above, if you know you have a bad metabolism or are on a medication that can make you gain weight you should go out of your way to eat extremely healthy. Its liveable. I had surgery and was unable to workout for two weeks (which was a long time for me because I have been on a daily routine for over a year). I watched my diet heavily and ate a very low fat intake with healthy choices. I was able to live day by day with lima beans for lunch (no butter) soup with vegetables for dinner, and yogurt smoothies blended with fruit and no fat milk (no sugar or anything). After two weeks I didn't gain any weight and retained the same figure. It takes discipline and noboday has any excuses.

Sometimes people do have a valid reason for there weight gain. I'm pretty sure right now I'm overweight but there is nothing i can do about it, i pretty much just sit at home all day

Also, i've never done research on the topic but I'm pretty sure due to differences in metabolism the digestion and intake of calories varies between each person (along with many genetic factors) that can contribute to an inability to exercise or loose weight. I would understand your dislike towards the overweight if everybody was genetically identical and the only separating variable was a degree of laziness, but that's simply not the point. I would go out to say i'm much more hard-working and motivated than the average person but it didn't stop me getting to where i am now.

"Society feels disgusted", i beg to differ. You may feel disgusted, but unfortunately you don't speak for the entirety of society.

A lot of those people can't help it when society, especially in the US wants every [i]single[/i] thing super sized. Many times (seen this happen too many times) you'll see an American getting something at a restaurant abroad, and they'll complain about the size of the meal, when in actuality it's the correct portion size recommended.

And many Americans don't even notice how bad something is either. I had a friend do his project on "Obesity in America" and gave out perogies and by the time he was done with his presentation, no one realized they just ate 3 days worth of calories...

And people wonder why shows like "The Biggest Loser" is such a hit in America.

Please tell me you actually wrote about fat girls in Maplestory as your project.

Join the PMAF, People's Movement Against Fat.

[quote=ZOMGitjon]why workout when you can play maplestory?[/quote]

Why not do both ?

why workout when you can play maplestory?