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if this guy makes an angelic burster the world will end

Just asked my alliance, Rya is also banned :o

[quote=wiill]I heard zero got banned is it true?[/quote]

Yes. I think Rya is also banned.

[quote=wiill]I heard zero got banned is it true?[/quote]

Yes, it's true!

[quote=MrYoYo]@janny1993: Simply because you can't my point has been proven, your just like all the other kids "I don't spend my mom's money its my own" ofc it is kid.

Done arguing with someone like yourself, its always an endless argument with someone as stubborn as you there for reply to me as much as you would like, I proved my point there for I will not respond to you anymore [/quote]

ya, congratulation.
You just won a years worth of candy.

[quote=MrYoYo]@janny1993: Proof or you got it from your parents, quit lyin.[/quote]

I don't see no reason why I have to prove anything to you, kid
You want me to go and show you my monthly salary? no thank you </3

he still likes bad music

I LOVE MAPLESTORY! <3 <3 <3 <3

its my life <3

@above: I knew you would bring that up. The equips I have on is bought with mesos from FM (premium styles).
And no, I did not marry or buy any of those friendship rings. As much as I love my friends, I don't 'buy' my friends.
I've only used nx on my hair and face on my db.

And in damage-wise, I haven't spent a cent on cubes.
I either craft % equips or buy with mesos.
My mesos come from selling off the stuff I don't need, therefore I did not have to buy meso bags.
I also use event maplepoints for stuff like SoK.

I occassionally buy NX in 20k amounts no more than 2 times in a long while.
I just get a hair/face change and I pretty much stop there.
(Anyone who has played Maplestory should have at least made one NX purchase, there's nothing guilty about getting a little, but it shouldn't be an obsession to buy NX.)

Also, I don't spend as much time on Maple anymore. (If you think I like hene0eing, I'll tell you that is the most boringest thing to do ever. I never do that anymore.
I can call or msn my friends without opening Maplestory.)
I actually have a life outside the game, my world does not revolve around Maplestory.
Maplestory is just a game that I turn to when my work is done.

As well, my world doesn't revolve around you or Basilmarket. I do not have to waste time to prove my point.
You can prove it wrong as many times necessary, but nothing will change what I choose to think or how I choose to judge other people.
You can quote me and attack every single statement I have made, but IDGAF.
I'll write this as my last post and I'll leave it at this.
If you want to be nosy and question about my NX purchases, why don't you hack my Maple account and find out yourself?
Quote me all you like, but chances are I wouldn't check, don't even hope for a reply; you are pretty insignificant to me unless I know you as a real person in life rather than just a wasteful pixel of time and money, no better than anyone here.
I can say the same to anyone else who have made at least one nx purchase, or have been logging in to Maple on a regular basis.
-End, goodbye.-

What a bunch of little (d)icks

I missed out on 15 pages of this beautiful thread? What in the world D:

@MrYoYo: for your information, that money does not belong to my mother nor my father. It's my own money, so back off.

[quote=Demonlord]Ohey, another video of a hacker, doing high damage that became old.

No really, caring.[/quote]

Care cares

everyone hacks, no big deal

[quote=iBattleMages]@TheMagi: Ooooh kiddo what an insult. You're so cool. Teach me how to be more like you.[/quote]

And here we have the generic e-thug, resorting to rude insults at people over the Internet over stupid, insignificant arguments.
Forgive and forget.

@shaftkid2: Cool thought. But to me pixels are just people who are just living a lie online. If that makes some of you happy- ok, continue with what you are doing~
I'm in no place to judge/interfere any of you who spend a lot of money/time on Maplestory, but I can form my opinions on anyone I like.

If anyone is butthurt by my comment(s), here's some butthurt cream for each of yah!

@TheMagi: Ooooh kiddo what an insult. You're so cool. Teach me how to be more like you.

If I could hack, I would hack.
Lol.
Why wouldn't you?
Unless you're retarded of course.

[quote=Timmeh7o7]It's funny because it does affect players like me. Hackers affect the economy. Hackers can make legit runs worthless. Hackers can make an amazing item look like junk. How many [i]real[/i] Lucky Guy medals are out there, for example? There should be very few in existence, yet there are thousands in circulation. Anyone can get one for the right price. They're not rare anymore. A legit owner of it could have had billions more than they're worth now.[/quote]

The only way they make an amazing item look like junk is making it available to more people, at a cheaper price. Nothing wrong with that. How many people honestly complain about dupers? If an item get's duped it's not like there is an outrage amongst the community. The only big downside is a potential roll back. Yes that is a BIG negative and I am not saying I am supporting them. But people need to stop hating so much. Just move on and play the game. Don't let their actions bother you so much.

[quote=Azngothopz] There are positive and negatives hence i said "most of the time negatively", not all the time. And please show me some empirical example of how i am being biased. It seems that you are more biased so far in this thread making assumptions about people's emotions instead of just arguing rationally. I am not sure how much you know about basic economies but duping/farming through hacks will cause inflation. That's simple economics. That's why our government can't just print more money to get rid of our debts we owe to China. Our government is actually afraid of printing too much paper money further lowering the actual worth of our currency.[/quote]

Actually it's not most of the time negative. It's actually most of the time positive with some negative side effects. That is for people who take advantage of the situation. You are being biased because you aren't considering both sides of the argument. I also never made an opinion about your emotions, I just said you were being biased. being biased isn't an emotion. So I don't know where you get that from...And duping causes deflation because of the supply of the product is increased therefore dropping the price, not inflation, where prices rise and purchasing power falls.

[quote=Demonlord] Really, calm down? It's not as if I'm raging or using an excessive amount of effort to type all these. Typing a long post isn't hard, unless you're some kind of incompetent unintelligent dimwit; which I assumy ou are since you're assuming I'm not calm yakno. [/quote]

Um...you just seem like you enjoy insulting people. I have nothing more to say to you. Good bye.

I think it's pretty cute that everyone's writing such long drawn out paragraphs carefully explaining why "hackers are scum".
- They spend less time on the game, they make more money out of it, and look, you've made them famous anyway.
Greed is human nature.
Clearly everyone is just mad they haven't figured out how to turn their hobbies into profit.
I am too.

@GunUser: Ohh he dupes? I didn't know that. Well then of course, if you dupe you can easily get money off that and have a job at the same time.

[quote=Pendant]Seems like you know me oh so well, wanabeF who's never amounted to anything in-game or in real life.
High 5 for being poor in both aspects.

Not to mention that no one knows who the hell you are.
Must be real special.

And quite the contrary to your post sir. Don't pretend to know people just because no one happens to know who you are.
I have mesos, I have money, must be a duper![/quote]

Someone seems mad.

Theres no question that Zero has done illegit activity to get to where he is(He admitted to it in this thread). And there is no question that doing illegit activity is wrong at least according to do TOS. Immoral? I dont know if I would go that far, but you couldn't blame people for thinking this way, because it IS not playing the game as intended(even if nexon manages this game horribly which I think it does).

And activities from people like Zero DO affect the maple community. From an economic standpoint there is no way that it does not since most illegits use the freemarket, and even if they didn't the economy gets affected from the black market. Even if someone says they're driving down costs, at the same time they are devaluing achievements one can accomplish once at high levels. (ie.) if I was a lvl 150+ and got a czak helm, I be selling it for a higher price had the illegits not saturated the market with the equips they got from cheating their way up and killing bosses more easily than legits would.

So for the illegits, understand that some people think its wrong. Who cares if legits are jelly and would doop if they could, it doesn't invalidate the points legits make. I could be addicted to cigarettes but I could still say that cigarettes are not good for you.

Also people keep bringing up the fact that its just a game. But it means alot more to some people. Even some illegits will agree that maple isn't what is used to be, and some feel even pressured to continue illegit activities in order to say ahead of the curve.(I said some, not all). Theres no question that illegits have made maplestory a worse place. Channels have crashed, worlds have crashed, the downtime that Nexon had to do to fix what illegits did. Even the maps that are being botted, ruining training efficiency. And the d/c hax, map crashes, a/cing spots in fm, to the point where some people can get locked out of their accounts simply because someone is d/cing their chars for a week. (this has happened to people).

So as a fellow illegit, illegits don't try to justify what you're doing because legits have a strong case against us. In a way the bashing is the price we pay for playing this way.

In the end illegits do win monetarily due to nexon's horrible management (honestly being a legit in ms is hard, so props to you). But fun wise, if no one could cheat MS would probably be more fun. As having been both legit and illegit, i can say that being legit has been a better experience. So in a way legits win in the end.

[quote=Pendant]Seems like you know me oh so well, wanabeF who's never amounted to anything in-game or in real life.
High 5 for being poor in both aspects.

Not to mention that no one knows who the hell you are.
Must be real special.

And quite the contrary to your post sir. Don't pretend to know people just because no one happens to know who you are.
I have mesos, I have money, must be a duper![/quote]

Edit: Nevermind.

[quote=TangleViper]This would be more interesting with legit people.[/quote]

Couldn't say it in a better way.

[quote=ScuXxMuji]I look up to this Zero guy, but it doesn't mean what he's doing is correct.

But idc, I still look up to him.[/quote]
If you put the time and effort into making any character im sure you could give this guy a run for his money!

I look up to this Zero guy, but it doesn't mean what he's doing is correct.

But idc, I still look up to him.

@TheMagi: Yet, you're in different servers as you stated, you're an i/l which doesn't effect you unless you're a complete idiot and buy duped equips with weapon attack. (excluding those rose earrings that are 35magic attack). Are you equiping duped equips?

If people were stupid enough to buy them, let it burn them down when Nexon finally decides to delete them once and for all until they're re-created. Most people I know don't use duped equips other than some, even so, the people who are using empress may not be legit (because of scrolls, etc. As long as it's not going to hurt me or kill me in a way, why does it matter if they're using it? Is it killing you in real life? Is it hurting you? No? Okay.

Lol, Maple logic -> everyone who did cap damage = hacker

Reason -> they are jealous they can't hit cap damage or get godly equipment.

@MrYoYo: um... ok? I've spent more than 3k dollar on this character

I didn't see a single 6 to compliment those 9's

not impressed hmpph *hair flip*

@MrYoYo: I think you are the one that doesn't know what he's talking about. I know someone that spent around $2k when mercedes first came out.
Anyways /argument

this guy "Zero" is becoming so famous lately... btw one of the best IGN i've ever seen

@MrYoYo: Look at my last comment, edited a bit. You would be surprised to see how much people are spending.

@MrYoYo: That's because it's a new thread. Look at the thread made on 9/16 and look at how many people are commenting/asking to buy.
OK..if you are lazy:
[quote=Demiray]Hey, I'd like to buy 160 WS (Value=$240)
Do you have any pendants with %int by any chance?(Assuming dom pendant $400) Also, thinking of getting one of the weps, just need another paycheck or two ;D($200-300+ea) [/quote]
[quote=ctwlw]Are you still selling me the items?
Waited for you yesterday but you never came on [/quote]
[quote= Scout Finch]I'll buy the dbg with mp sometime soon, given you still have it. Most likely on Sunday.
I already have you on msn (Value=$350)[/quote]

@MrYoYo: It is worth $2000...... Find someone selling a similar set that has a lower price.

Yo manq, Bera does it better >;O

That merc with the dreamcatcher hair had some pretty sick control. I likey. <3

Also: *points to video link below post*

[quote=iBattleMages]Basil isn't known for its intelligence because of people like you.[/quote]

Yes, because I, who called you out for posting the same idiotic statement or "joke" as you call it that was already posted twenty times, am lacking intelligence for pointing out how stupid of a comparison that was. Yes, I'm the one who lacks intelligence because I pointed that out.

The idiots in this world are the ones who spread misinformation or faulty data, "joking" or not, that's what you're doing(and the fact that you expect everyone to be able tell if your joking or not over the internet shows how misinformed you are on the way things work in general). If you can't see that, we're done here. Keep being cool and edgy on Basil kiddo! Maybe someone will notice you out of the 30 other people who post the same exact crap on every thread every day.
[b]I also find it funny that you took me seriously.[/b]

[quote=mark24]with no work experience i was making 10 dollars a hour. how much you make off maple?[/quote]

His thief empress set is $2000 not including weapon. There are quite a few people with that set.

www.[......].com/forums/showthread.php?176240-Divide-By-Zero-s-Amazing-Shop-10-05-Update-!

[quote=ViaTheStars]You'd be surprised :[/quote]

with no work experience i was making 10 dollars a hour. how much you make off maple?

[quote=TheMagi]>expecting people to be able to tell if you're an idiot or joking on an internet forum, especially when Basil isn't exactly known for its intelligence.

lolk.[/quote]

Basil isn't known for its intelligence because of people like you.

[quote=Patole]For example... I'm not entirely sure of this but... The only reason why empress equips are "cheaper" now is because of hackers. Even with the events that happened empress equips would've still been pretty rare.. It's the hackers that are killing the empress= selling to the people ;which made the price go lower and more popular with high demands. And maybe one of the reasons why these people don't get banned is because they are who help nexon or whoever gets the money"get money". If we didn't have this much empress equips out then imagine how much empress equips would cost and how much money nexon "would be loosing" if people didn't cure as crazy as they are doing now with the empress equips + with the new potential.[/quote]

Hacked empress runs(and the Evan botters and such we see) may ruin the prices for us by making things dirt cheap, but at the same time it puts vital items into the economy.
I don't agree with it, and would rather hackers be eradicated, But there are two sides to the argument. The economy is at the point where nearly everyone has benefitted from a hacker in one way or the other.

@BlkTwitch: There are positive and negatives hence i said "most of the time negatively", not all the time. And please show me some empirical example of how i am being biased. It seems that you are more biased so far in this thread making assumptions about people's emotions instead of just arguing rationally. I am not sure how much you know about basic economies but duping/farming through hacks will cause inflation. That's simple economics. That's why our government can't just print more money to get rid of our debts we owe to China. Our government is actually afraid of printing too much paper money further lowering the actual worth of our currency.

You guys should look at Mojito's phantom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5y8YcAZYoM&feature=plcp

[quote=Azngothopz]I'm not sure if you are ignorant on the subject but hackers do alter the economy, most of the time negatively. So there is a huge difference between using game sharks, and glitches in a game boy game oppose to an mmo.[/quote]

There are positives and negatives. Try not to be so biased next time please. Oh and since you are so firm on the subject, maybe share with the rest of us what he has done to negatively effect your game play? Or are you just speaking out of speculation?

There are hackers in my server too. In my personal experience they have actually helped the economy to a certain degree. Not hurt it. Explain this to me?

@Demonlord You...you just need to calm the heck down. I don't think you are as upset as you make yourself seem. Take a breather, and make your next post really thought out instead of a raging cluster of...what ever it is you just wrote. Thank you.

[quote=Demonlord]No you don't, you make them to show off your hacked damage and try to desperately gain some internet fame.

No no, you're a human alright, but you're just another high horsed hacker that thinks he can act normal in a community that they ruined. It's like a guy comes and burns your house down, then comes back and tries to have fun in it.

They're probably crappy people like you, hacker.

You're the one desperately defending yourself. We just find you a bad mapler in our community and want you gone.

[b]Oh god[/b], are you really trying to act as if you're allowed to be a normal mapler? It's like a criminal trying to be a normal person, after slaughtering 20 kids and having sex with their carcasses. I don't get the mindset of you hackers, you go and ruin a game and then after becoming god through non-legit manners, you come and try to act like one of the pros of the games. In games pros are people noobs or normal people can look up to or be a fan of, as nerdy as it sounds, it's the same with everything. But then there's cheaters that come in and try to be those pros, after cheating. Really, do you think [b]anyone[/b], with a brain, is going to look up to you? Also, you don't deserve the name zero, you're lower than that.

[b]SO BASICALLY[/b], you're trying to act like a pro when you're a cheater and now you're trying to act as if you were mature and a good person, [b]when you're not[/b].

Edit:
Also, if you really want to integrate back into the Maple community, do what some criminals have to do: Community service. Instead of being a hacker that hacked to the top and then decide to pass himself off as a pro whose only purpose is to entertain himself, [b]do something for the community[/b]. It's like you have all this power, that you didn't earn legitly, and you do nothing with it. Had you earned it all legitly, you could do whatever you want with it, it's yours. You can do nothing for others and chose to continue to focus on yourself, but if you want to be accepted [b]help others[/b]. Now don't say you don't want to be accepted by others, you do, otherwise these videos wouldn't be made and you wouldn't go out of your way to make yourself known. So instead of pretending, at least try to be a Pro.

Now why am I suddenly giving you advice? I'm an ass, but I'm not a total ass, I also believe hackers can be and some are good people. But, they just aren't one when they're hackers. Be a Robin Hood, help the poor by robbing the rich. Rich as in Nexon, robbing as in hacking since you hack, and poor as in . . .poor. Not necessarily giving someone godly gear, but giving a simple perfected weapon that was scrolled with 60% is helpful to someone, pretty sure that's something easy for you. Hell, a 5/7 60% scrolled wep is helpful. Now you don't have, not even saying you should, you can always continue to be a cheater who pretends to be a pro if you want. Now I know normal pros don't do this, but they didn't cheat! This doesn't just go to Zero, this goes to all dupers/hackers who try to pretend they're pros; both the advice and the criticism.
([b]Once again, I am saying that this is not me begging for items, but something these people can do if they want to redeem themselves. [i]if they want to.[/i][/b])

Terms:
Pros - The good guys who may or may not help others.
Cheaters - Hackers, dupers, the scoundrels of Maplestory.[/quote]

So what?

[quote=NightLordz]@DaVioLinisT: Haha that's cute... I'm pretty sure Proxied isn't a duper and tell this Zero to go and do it because if he can why not? Hmm? @underpaying this fool thinks you dupe....[/quote]

Zero has better things to do than taking you srsly.

[quote=iBattleMages]And I understand his point. It was a joke. Stop calling me an idiot when you don't have enough of a brain to differentiate between a joke and being serious.[/quote]

>expecting people to be able to tell if you're an idiot or joking on an internet forum, especially when Basil isn't exactly known for its intelligence.

lolk.
[quote=Awuu] People need to understand the fact that it's not effecting them, other than the whole "duping" equip session, etc;[/quote]
Because duping and hacking items doesn't destroy the economy,which, even if it did, no way affects players! I forgot that GMS has the best free market out of all the Maples!
Oh wait.
The fact of the matter that when you hack/perform illegal activities in an MMORPG it is almost [b]always[/b] going to affect the population in one way or the other.
Not going to accuse the guy of anything since he isn't in my server, but that was an assinine statement.

I liked the music :O

[quote=ViaTheStars]Pokemon maybe? Generate those rare candies more and level up...[/quote]
Rare candy spamming on a pokemon is the worst idea in the existence of pokemon.