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should i add dex?

so i am a ua marauder lvl 111 and i have 4 base and like 94 with everything. and so im thinking should i add it? i have a str to dex inner ability. i want to equip my reverse equanox but like im wondering with physical training ill have 120 dex just enough to equip my equanox. so is it worth it to add? oh also i dont think ill make it to 200 so i wont have the spare 23 dex.

1 more question when u get to 4th job do you still use cork or bsb? i want to find a place for my shark wave/crew/ds and demo

last question~ why cant i raise my inner ability? i have lvl 17 honor lvl and all but like the str to dex conversion is still at 1% when it should be 5%. so like is it when i use a circulator it resets it to lvl 1 and i have to lvl it from there? i got the str to dex conversion today and i was already lvl 15 yesterday.

July 29, 2012

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alvin521

Omgosh stepfendw where are your specs? And saup

Reply August 3, 2012
PhaseOfFact

No problem, glad I could help out =]

Reply August 3, 2012
alvin521

@PhaseOfFact omgosh thanks for the information. im sorry im writing so little when you wrote so much but this indeed did help a feelow buccaneer out <3 <3
i cant wait to play on my new bucc when it comes out. in fact this is the first class i got legitly to 120

Reply August 2, 2012
PhaseOfFact

Well, as I said, since the revamp is close, I dunno if anything I came across pre-revamp will apply post-revamp because of the drastic changes in skills.
Here are some things we [i]might[/i] come across post-revamp off the top of my head.
1. Vertical mobility. Pre-revamp, we didn't have much horizontal or vertical mobility (well, I suppose snatch sort of covered that), but with the Corkscrew Blow+Spiral Assault combo, we will be sliding across the map mobbing enemies in our way. We still don't have any vertical mobility though, so it may be tough training on maps with platforms.
2. We'll have to get used to taking damage/actually timing our iframes. Barrage and Demolition provided us with very long iframes, but both are being taken out. This will require us to time SSK when you see the pre-animation of a 1/1.
3. Buff time. Since we have a total of 7 buffs post-revamp compared to 5 now, dispel will be more annoying and you may want to shoot for buff duration bonus for inner abilities or create a Mechanic for the character card buff.

I'm most likely missing many points, but we'll find out in a week what the new Buccaneer class is like =]

Reply August 2, 2012 - edited
alvin521

well i mean like umm not a build but in general as you were making ur bucc what did you come across?
oh grats on 200 btw im still 125

Reply August 2, 2012 - edited
PhaseOfFact

Well, I personally haven't experienced the revamp yet so can't really give much advice on post-Justice.
Just make sure to have a good skill build, I'm sure Tricks' guide will layout the build with explanations.
Other than that, have fun with your Bucc^^
ah, and I'm 200, just want to leave my basil profile at 199 haha

Reply August 2, 2012 - edited
alvin521

ahh i see. i would prolly spam laser or octo punch
and any other things i should do or watch out for? like tips from a 199 bucc?

Reply August 2, 2012 - edited
PhaseOfFact

*If I recall correctly. I haven't HT'ed in a while lol
ah, make sure to get Pirates Rage to negate seduce~
haha thanks xD

Reply August 2, 2012 - edited
alvin521

iirc? oh im going to stasrt the prequest when im about 160s so that wont be anytime soon anyways but thank you
i love those bunny ears <3 <3

Reply August 2, 2012 - edited
PhaseOfFact

Yep, HT drops the egg too iirc

Reply August 2, 2012 - edited
kyle998x

dont add any dex just get a dex boost potion then eqiup all empress gear then when the pot expires you can still wear it all

Reply August 1, 2012 - edited
PhaseOfFact

Once you kill HT, he will drop an egg. That egg is used to egg an HTP after you complete the quest in the video.

Reply August 1, 2012 - edited
alvin521

@coalman4444 ohhh well i scrolled mine with 60% and only 1 worked and i dont know how to farm the coins besides killing the bosses over and over agan so 3 coins per kill for kenta king or something x 15 times a day is 45 and thats like so many times plus the fact that you can blow it 60% of the time. i dont think i would want that.

@phaseoffact so i just watched the vid and whats the 9 spirit thing? that prequesty what is that?

Reply August 1, 2012 - edited
alvin521

[quote=PhaseOfFact][url=http://www.basilmarket.com/show/video/24876]Here's[/url] a good guide on how to egg a HTP~[/quote]

thank you very muchhh <3
of so i finished silent crusade now i just need to kill akrium which i prolly wont till im like 160 or so. and i got a shoulder...out of 2scrolls 1 worked
also what should i do now? lvl 125 well besides grinding anything else i can do?

Reply August 1, 2012 - edited
PhaseOfFact

[quote=alvin521]@phaseoffact yups i mean its nexon right XD
and how exactly do you egg it?
and alright i didnt reach the kenta king but i will prolly today <3[/quote]

[url=http://www.basilmarket.com/show/video/24876]Here's[/url] a good guide on how to egg a HTP~

Reply July 31, 2012 - edited
alvin521

@phaseoffact yups i mean its nexon right XD
and how exactly do you egg it?
and alright i didnt reach the kenta king but i will prolly today <3

Reply July 31, 2012 - edited
PhaseOfFact

[quote=alvin521]o_O hrmm thats pretty tempting but like with pirate revamp coming and me maxing physical training i would have enough dex to equip my equanox. so i think i can wait. i onlt have 9% str total </3
my rings suck: alliance/7dex ring/ABR/legends
i also have cannoneer buff
12str pendant. (im thinking about doing the HT prequest soon when i hit like 130 or so) also does the "egged" HTP mean its like 70 stat all? and if i were to get a HTP how should i scroll it? no white scrolls btw
as of right now im doing the silent crusade questline, which boss drops the most coins? not like zak or anything just umm mirriored bosses[/quote]

Yea if you will have 120 with Physical Training then I'd just wait 1 more week, can't really count on an AP reset lol
Egged HTPs give 22 all stats. There used to be a glitch where you could egg an HTP/CHTP multiple times, resulting in 40 and 70 all stats pendants. A lot of them got deleted, but some are still floating around.
I personally just egged my HTP and left it like that, no need to scroll it imo since it doesn't have any w.atk.
I think Kentaurus King drops the most coins, not 100% sure though.

Reply July 31, 2012 - edited
alvin521

[quote=PhaseOfFact]I don't think putting AP into DEX (up to 23) is bad if it's to equip a better weapon. Unless you have 100%+ STR, the w.atk gain you will get from equipping the new weapon will most likely benefit you more than if you put that AP into STR.

I can't check my equips at the moment, but from the top of my head, I get my DEX from Evo Rings 1&3, DABR, Legendary Gratias Ring, egged HTP, Kenta Goggles, Crusader Shoulder, Next Legend or Crusade Medal (I think both give +4), Pirate link skill.
You can also get +DEX B rank nebulites for cheap and put them on your accessories. Get 40% DEX Azwan scrolls and scroll your accessories, fusing the failed ones. Shouldn't cost too much, and that's 10 DEX right there =][/quote]

o_O hrmm thats pretty tempting but like with pirate revamp coming and me maxing physical training i would have enough dex to equip my equanox. so i think i can wait. i onlt have 9% str total </3
my rings suck: alliance/7dex ring/ABR/legends
i also have cannoneer buff
12str pendant. (im thinking about doing the HT prequest soon when i hit like 130 or so) also does the "egged" HTP mean its like 70 stat all? and if i were to get a HTP how should i scroll it? no white scrolls btw
as of right now im doing the silent crusade questline, which boss drops the most coins? not like zak or anything just umm mirriored bosses

Reply July 31, 2012 - edited
PhaseOfFact

[quote=alvin521]@phaseoffact well thats because you are 199, i dont think ill be getting to 200. So i dont think i would put the extra 23 dex

@ayrtinian nice. Did that 15 sex really help?

But really like how did you get enough dex? I have 100 atm[/quote]

I don't think putting AP into DEX (up to 23) is bad if it's to equip a better weapon. Unless you have 100%+ STR, the w.atk gain you will get from equipping the new weapon will most likely benefit you more than if you put that AP into STR.

I can't check my equips at the moment, but from the top of my head, I get my DEX from Evo Rings 1&3, DABR, Legendary Gratias Ring, egged HTP, Kenta Goggles, Crusader Shoulder, Next Legend or Crusade Medal (I think both give +4), Pirate link skill.
You can also get +DEX B rank nebulites for cheap and put them on your accessories. Get 40% DEX Azwan scrolls and scroll your accessories, fusing the failed ones. Shouldn't cost too much, and that's 10 DEX right there =]

Reply July 30, 2012 - edited
alvin521

@phaseoffact well thats because you are 199, i dont think ill be getting to 200. So i dont think i would put the extra 23 dex

@ayrtinian nice. Did that 15 sex really help?

But really like how did you get enough dex? I have 100 atm

Reply July 30, 2012 - edited
Tricks122

[quote=ayrtinian]I had to put sex to 15 due to empress equips. But I'm fine.[/quote]

I'm going to assume you got auto-corrected or female characters have some sort of stat that I don't have.

Reply July 30, 2012 - edited
PhaseOfFact

[quote=lolsmacker]fml after reading this i regret putting my dex to 20 when i bought a full ap reset QQ[/quote]

I wouldn't worry about it, you can have a base DEX of up to 23 in order to get 999 base STR.

Reply July 30, 2012 - edited
lolsmacker

fml after reading this i regret putting my dex to 20 when i bought a full ap reset QQ

Reply July 30, 2012 - edited
alvin521

@tricks122 ahh i see what you mean
im doing silent crusade and nothing good has come so far.

Reply July 30, 2012 - edited
Tricks122

[quote=alvin521]@tricks122 i said good bye to blast cause of its sucky range. dragon has more a vertical range which is better right?[/quote]

It has more range, but if you rush properly Blast can get 4 mobs and provide better damage because of it. I have it there for when I need it and Dragon Strike for when I need the vertical range, such as when there are clumps of mobs in places like Aswan or when my party refuses to rush/let me rush LHC mobs. It's an alternative for higher damage that's there, and while you can use it, nobody's forcing you to.

Range isn't always better if you can make up for it with rushing. There are several factors that go into mobbing damage; not just range and raw damage itself. It's why some classes still use their 1v1 on mobs of 2; they do more damage with it than their mobber, so it's more exp. Same concept here; you do more damage with Energy Blast, and it's really easy to get in a position to use it, so why not use it? All you really need to do is Cork/Backspin once or twice and they should be clumped up.

Reply July 30, 2012 - edited
alvin521

@tricks122 i said good bye to blast cause of its sucky range. dragon has more a vertical range which is better right?

Reply July 30, 2012 - edited
Tricks122

[quote=alvin521]@tricks122 i got to 120 XD and i replaced my cork with barrage and shark with dragon

do you still use energy blast? cause like im thinking about butting sharks there or demo. its at shift so its easy to press.[/quote]

Energy Blast does more DPS than Dragon Strike if you hit 4 mobs with each attack, but Dragon Strike will win out if you can hit 5+ mobs with it. I really recommend you keep on your keyboard for now, it has VERY good uses until the Revamp hits.

Reply July 30, 2012 - edited
alvin521

@tricks122 i got to 120 XD and i replaced my cork with barrage and shark with dragon

do you still use energy blast? cause like im thinking about butting sharks there or demo. its at shift so its easy to press.

Reply July 30, 2012 - edited
Tricks122

@Tersera Huh, not bad amount of keys. I'll take my keyboard any day, but I might have to try out a controller someday, seems interesting at the very least.

Reply July 29, 2012 - edited
Tersera

[quote=Tricks122]although I'm not sure how many buttons a Gamepad has. Seems like it'd be a bit crowded for a controller, even if you macro'd buffs.[/quote]
My gamepad has 24 useable keys. However, I made 1/24 of the buttons change the set which means the other 23 buttons can fit 2 commands each. One skill when that set-changing button is held, and one when released.

So I've got [b]46[/b] [i](23*2)[/i] buttons and can fit all skills macro free and along with things like NPC Chat, Left/Right clicks, mouse movement, enter and escape.
And enough buttons to type with my gamepad too but then I'd have to remember which button has which letter to actually make use of it lol.

Reply July 29, 2012 - edited
alvin521

@tricks122 lol yeah i guess. im trying to take an ss but it says unable to and try later.

@thiedfrenzy its ultimate adventurer, when you get your.....how are you a noob look ate your characters

Reply July 29, 2012 - edited
Tricks122

@alvin521 Tersera's post contains reasons you can use Sharks; they aren't huge benefits, but they help out. You might as well use them if you have them, right? There's not really much reason not to if it helps you out.

Reply July 29, 2012 - edited
alvin521

@tricks122 so basically i can kiss sharks goodbye? and yeh im logging on right now to get rid of keys i dont use.

@Tersera i dont think shark will be on my key board after 4th job. i mean like its cool and all b ut dragons are cooler
cooler>cool

@legitshadow lol i feel your pain, i was going to add dex also but i only have 94 atm.

Reply July 29, 2012 - edited
LegitShadow

Ew... I have 50 dex >.< (I added it all because I wanted to equip a cent and than I realized how easy it is to get dex) ew forgot about training >.< ohwell I hope AP resets come soon...

Reply July 29, 2012 - edited
Tricks122

@Tersera I'll assume that your cushion is more comfortable than mine; personally my Ice Chair is better for me. Never used a Gamepad; it seems like you'd have to macro some skills if you use it now, although I'm not sure how many buttons a Gamepad has. Seems like it'd be a bit crowded for a controller, even if you macro'd buffs. Although I could be wrong; I'm more of a keyboard guy anyway, but whatever works for you.

Reply July 29, 2012 - edited
Tersera

@Tricks122 As comfortable as the Seal Cushion. I prefer the gamepad config though so I'm just waiting for the revamp though since my gamepad controls are set up to that.

@alvin521 I'm glad I can inspire you. As for Sharkwave, it's not a necessity to have but it's definitely a nice bonus to have.
As of now, Sharkwave has the widest horizontal reach in which you can jump-cast it to attack and attract some mobs to come your way as you move towards it to allow you to reach it quicker which gives you the options of using Snatch, Corkscrew Blow or forward jump-cast Dragon Strike.

It's also currently the only long ranged attack with decent multi-target damage that can be used in mid-air.
It's applicable when falling in a multi-platformed map so that the monsters will be in a position near you to rush with CSB/BSB when you climb up to the platform you dropped past by.
Sharkwave can also be used to attack enemies behind you as you jump in your initial direction for the same luring intention as the above method.
Also when there are multiple platforms just high enough so that your character can't jump onto it, but low enough for Sharkwave to reach the feet of the mobs from below.

Reply July 29, 2012 - edited
Tricks122

@alvin521 Sharkwave isn't really needed, although you can benefit right now since it's faster than DS if you're using it as a finisher for normal mobs, it's not really that great as a consistent skill. Dragon Strike outclasses it once you level it up enough if I remember right, or it might be at level 1. I can't remember.

As long as your keyboard works for you, that's all that really matters. My keyboards tend to follow the same basic pattern(Main mobber on Space, Rusher on X/C, ect), but depending on the class I vary which buttons go where. I know my Paladin is an exception to the rule, and some classes like Arans just have buffs and not really active skills, so my keyboard varies on classes like that.

I'm comfortable with my setup, Tersera is comfortable with hers(I assume), as long as you are comfortable with your layout, it's fine. We can always offer advice on how we'd improve it, but in the end it's whatever works for you. Other than, you know, common advice like telling your Spouse Chat this: GET THE HELL OF MY KEYBOARD YOU STUPID USELESS KEY! Advice like that is something that's always useful.

Reply July 29, 2012 - edited
alvin521

Wow i like your keyboard, i dont really need sharkwave after 4th job do i? Ill ss my keyboard tomarrow. And all my buffs are XCV such and such so like i think ill just macro booster and speed infusion and pretty much do it like yurs with barrage with ctrl and demo at A. Ill just show you tmarrow and show another one when i get past 4th job <3

Reply July 29, 2012 - edited
Tricks122

http://www.basilmarket.com/show/screen/220752/0/Buccaneer_setup.html

There you are, my personal key setup. As you see, I've moved some things off my keyboard(Such as Spouse Chat) and others have been moved to different keys that aren't near my actual combat keys. Barrel and Shockwave are really there for no reason, although Transform is there for a reason(Mainly Aswan right now).

I really have no clue how people like Tersera play with keyboards like that. I mean seriously, I could NEVER play like that, but whatever works for you I guess. Either way tho, you should really move useless keys off your keyboard(Such as Item Pot and stuff like that) and move keys from wherever you're going to focus your skills on to the free keys; it'll really help with space and right now, Buccaneers need a fair bit of it.

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alvin521

@tricks122 lol yeah i get what you mean.

@tersera first of all i just want to say that im so happy. you and tricks are my favorite also shadecario but yeah. huge fan, watched your scar solo in 2012 and made me want to make a ua

anyways i think i can change a few things D just to make sure, HUGE FAN ILOVEYOU <3 <3 <3

Reply July 29, 2012 - edited
Tersera

@alvin521 Just take out some of the useless keys that you don't need.
Things that can be found when you click the shortcut tabs at the bottom of the screen or worldmap/medals/cash shop, things you don't need while grinding otherwise move them elsewhere.

[url=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/847/newconfig.png/]setup[/url] It might take a while to get used to the new settings when you first change things around though but it should help in the long run.

Reply July 29, 2012 - edited
Tricks122

@alvin521 You can switch the hotkeys which are displayed to check for cooldowns. Open the keyboard settings, go to "Change quick slots" and then select the key you want to replace, then press the key you want to replace it. I have several skills with cooldowns that aren't on the basic Quick Keys but are displayed there instead. I used to run TL on them, but when I figured out how to switch I put it in an out of the way place because I kept pressing it by accident >_<

Reply July 29, 2012 - edited
alvin521

@petite hey no homo or anything but you are friggin adorable. and alright no dex for me i already decided not to add it anymore

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alvin521

oh serious? i dont have SSK or anything i just use shark wave,drain,cork and bsb. my cooldowns are the insert/home/page up so i can see when i can use it again. aghhh i feel like such a noob.

Reply July 29, 2012 - edited
Tricks122

Bleh, too lazy to make an account for it... Figured out how to submit them to Basil and I just did, I'll post it here when it gets looked at or whatever.

And I have every skill except SSK and Flash Fist on my keyboard. SSK is going on as soon as MP Recovery gets deleted, so yea. You don't really replace many skills as a Buccaneer, but managing your keyboard is annoying.

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alvin521

@tricks122 alright so i can replace cork with dragon? and lol i think you take a ss then go to imgur or image shack and upload get a citation and the post it o.o pretty sure

Reply July 29, 2012 - edited
Tricks122

@alvin521 Cork doesn't have as much spammability as Backspin. My keyboard setup is apparently really weird, but let me log into Maple in a minute or two and I'll grab a screenshot for you. Not sure if it'll help much, but hopefully it does. How do you upload a screenshot to Basil, by the way? I don't have anything else to upload it to.

Reply July 29, 2012 - edited
alvin521

@Tricks122: ahh well like i have sharks and all so like its alot easier for me. and when i charge up i drain the towers cause i find that thats the best thing i have that will keep hitting and its the fastest+i die alot less. and as for BSB can i replace it with cork? so i want a place for my dragon strike and my cork is ctrl so i wanna put dstrike there. can i see your key configuration?

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