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[quote=XxSluhsiexX]Were both mages the same level? Did they have a similar base luk? Did you factor in the stat boost from your Mir armour?

Honestly, range isn't everything. When you're comparing these things, look at your total +int. That should give you a clear indication of whether it's the class or the character that needs improvement.[/quote]

Omg are u slushie! its me the rocker dude that kept asking u alot of questions on youtube!

pretty sure mages just naturally have a low range, cuz most of our skills that boost dmg dont show up in the range. arcane aim, storm magic, element amplification, etc. Infinity if you count that.

@Second: Woah no way ;P

[quote=prosecuted]Okay so i had about 96% int on my evan with a 225 m.atk estaff 6 and my range was 54k.
I moved about 6x% int onto my il with the same staff. The range was 24~25k [dont remember which].
I was aware that there'd be a difference [35%+ m.atk for evans + more int]. But i shouldnt have lost half my range switching characters, can someone please tell me why this happened?[/quote] Awesome same level as my i/l

evans have the highest range dude to passive skill and they have currently the highest mastery of all mages

@RisingRain: Actually i had made a small error, the staff i used on the il mage was 240 m.atk estaff 7, not a 225 m.atk estaff 6. But yes there are probably just unlisted differences that i didn't observe overall.

[quote=prosecuted]25% [b]damage[/b] reduction, i was testing my range, not training with it.[/quote]

Does using the wrong staff show up in the range? It might.
Either way, the drop is oddly big. 54k/1.35 (Evan Dragon Fury) = 40k.
Take off the passive MATK (I'd say 40-ish) that Evans have over A/Ms might lower it to like 35k?
30% lowered INT for a 9x% INT = x.84 range (roughly) = 29.4. Hmm, there's something missing here. It's probably the lost base INT difference.

The damage formula is (4*INT + LUK)*(MATK/100), correct? By neglecting LUK (as it's pretty minor), you get 4*INT*MATK*1/100. A %INT boost is merely a multiplier ontop of that, say 60% = 1.6*4*INT*MATK*1/100. 90% = 1.9*4*INT*MATK*1/100. 1.6/1.9 = .84.

EDIT: 40-ish MATK shouldn't lower it that badly to 35k, so what you're getting should be accurate if the 40 matk lost, lowered range to like, what, 38k or something.
EDIT 2: Staff shouldn't affect range.
EDIT 3: Something's still a bit off here.

Anyway, when you finish these calculations, you have to realize that the I/L's range will be 37.5k, in comparison to your Evan's 72.9k range (I added in both classes amplifications ontop of the I/L's 25k (1.5) and Evan's 54k (1.35)). If they had the same %INT + base INT + everything, the Evan's damage SHOULD be 1.215x the I/L's, then adding in the extra MATK, probably around 1.3x.

Omg... 30 levels difference, 30% stat boost difference, and WAY more passives.
Idk why your range on your i/l is so low, try deleting system32.

The 1.35x difference and the 30% less int make up most of the difference.
Do you have any link skills attached to your Evan? Other than losing 30% int, did you lose a large amount of magic attack?

EDIT: Nvm. I don't know why there'd be that big of a difference.

Have you tried restarting your computer?

[quote=NamesBoreMe]Elestaff 6. You'd have to be a dunderhead to use one of those on an I/L mage.[/quote]

25% [b]damage[/b] reduction, i was testing my range, not training with it.

[quote=NamesBoreMe]Elestaff 6. You'd have to be a dunderhead to use one of those on an I/L mage.[/quote]

My thoughts exactly o.o
You get like a 25% reduction for using the wrong element for the wrong class

@NamesBoreMe: [quote=prosecuted]I moved about 6x% int onto my il with the same staff. [/quote]

[quote=XxSluhsiexX]@NamesBoreMe: He has the exact same equips that his evan has - m.att isn't a factor in this case.[/quote]

Elestaff 6. You'd have to be a dunderhead to use one of those on an I/L mage.

@NamesBoreMe: He has the exact same equips that his evan has - m.att isn't a factor in this case.

[quote=XxSluhsiexX]Were both mages the same level? Did they have a similar base luk? Did you factor in the stat boost from your Mir armour?

Honestly, range isn't everything. When you're comparing these things, look at your total +int. That should give you a clear indication of whether it's the class or the character that needs improvement.[/quote]

Theres + int and theres m.att.

Be more attentive to m.att. I don't know why, but people always seem to consider only the % int of something instead of m.att and the int on equips. [b]Bonus int on equips does add to your range too and is calculated into the % int bonus too. M.att is just as important as % int[/b]

Example
I have 66% int on my 190 I/L mage (yes, 20 levels difference but the skills should all be the same), yet I have a 40k range.
I remove my elestaff (260 m.att) and my range drops to about 12k.

[quote=XxSluhsiexX]Were both mages the same level? Did they have a similar base luk? Did you factor in the stat boost from your Mir armour?

Honestly, range isn't everything. When you're comparing these things, look at your total +int. That should give you a clear indication of whether it's the class or the character that needs improvement.[/quote]

Actually the evan was 200 and the il was 172. almost same base luk. Yeah i guess i should have been more attentive to the details. thanks
And to the people talking about passives, i mentioned that in my original post -.-

Evans have a naturally higher range due to more passives.

Were both mages the same level? Did they have a similar base luk? Did you factor in the stat boost from your Mir armour?

Honestly, range isn't everything. When you're comparing these things, look at your total +int. That should give you a clear indication of whether it's the class or the character that needs improvement.