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[quote=DirtyMugen]Well your an idiot than. When I go czak with friends I throw on res, magic crash, and heal, also I have my buff stealing skill on top of that. Much better than a bishop. If I wanted I could replace magic crash with dispel and still have buff steal which still leaves me ahead of bishops. Not to mention I can still do some serious damage at the same time as being the best support class.[/quote]
every time you used magic crash you'd have to wait 30 seconds to use combo, losing 25% dmg boost
using heal makes you lose 30atk boost
only smart thing said was bringing res

you clearly have no idea what serious damage is. you wouldnt be able to come close to any good dps class with equal funding, much less so while being a support phantom
try doing a real boss and you'll understand what i mean.

sure phantom would still be pretty great if you could cap with it
I had 250k buffed (pre nerf) and could barely cap on regular mobs with ultimate drive

learn about dps and hits per second before you come back and try to talk about your "serious damage"

Meh. I can take them or leave them to be honest.

[quote=Jpwn]Just stop begging me for mesos... </3 >.< [/quote]

LOL SCREW YOU BOBBY

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I need to fund my phantom more, only 34% luk but no boss damage o_o"

Rofl, breaking 100k with mille is VERY satisfying, if you ask me.

I am proud of playing a Phantom, and all those who are ones should be proud as well!
Although, the only reason I play this class is because it is the only play style I truly like.

I used 50b+++ funding to be able to hit max per line with mille aiguilles when bossing, and 500k~700k per line to normal mobs.

i would say it is a pretty costly job, but even without funding, it is still a really versatile and fun job to play!

[quote=inemnitable]If a clean thief empress set cost you 600m without the cane you paid way too much.[/quote]

I could have gotten the Express set and the cane for a lot cheaper. I bought the Empress about 6 months before Phantoms was actually released. It was my dream to make one, this is the only class I really enjoy. The canes are worth like 700-800m now, oh well. Say thank you to Nexon for the wonderful nerf they gave us!

@Masterobert: Cane multiplier x1.30
dagger x1.30 (but dagger wielders can use attack shields or kataras for extra attack PLUS dbs and shads do more DPM)

[quote=SombraManx]well they are at the bottom of DPM charts, and they have low weapon multiplers...

a dual blade, xenon o shad with 6.4b funds would be hitting WAY more than you overall[/quote]

Do you know what Phantoms weapon multilayer exactly is?
And compared to other classes, how is it?

well they are at the bottom of DPM charts, and they have low weapon multiplers...

a dual blade, xenon o shad with 6.4b funds would be hitting WAY more than you overall

what's good is subjective

That video made me realize I really need more boss%

I don't care about this thread, but what was that skill that debuffed zak?

I'd like phantom but u cant jump attack with mille

What pretty much kill phantoms when it comes to be a supoorter at bossing, is the cooldown between switch skills... it's just annoying. In overall post hyper skills, Phantoms are ok but indeed needs a heavy load of funds to be able to deal ok damage (if you put the same amount of funding into other job you could be dealing 2-3x higher damage).

[quote=Applesnacks]Phantoms will always be op utility wise. Phantoms can be what ever the party needs, making them more useful than any job.[/quote]
I'd disagree with this. Jack of all trades, master of none. They are too limited in both the amount of skills they can steal at once and by the fact that they can only pick up Adv skills. For general training they're decent, but for stuff like bossing, I'd rather have a dedicated class for utility.

@ShadowSkillz: I have already listed my gear, I don't know what more I could show.

Phantoms will always be op utility wise. Phantoms can be what ever the party needs, making them more useful than any job.

@Masterobert : How much W.attack do you have? o.o

[quote=MarshMallows]May I ask what card set gives boss %?[/quote]

[url=http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStory-Character-Card-System.html]Here you go.[/url]

May I ask what card set gives boss %?

Don't tell him how to fund his character, he's inspiring people that Phantoms are good jobs.
That's the point of this thread.

If you guys want an update from me, i quit my phantom and made a DB. Same amount of luck as my phantom but with a 202 dagger and im doing significantly more damage on my it. Even with proper funding, my phantom woud've prolly hit 200k per line with mille with buffs (I hit 300k+ perline thanks to 85%boss). However, my DB's PB does 350-390k per line of PB. GO DBS!

x1mmortality im only level 107. But my range is 17k buffed.

There are no bad classes. Except for Mihile, Jett and CK.

20% luk 158 atk cane. 5 atk scg clean 20k clean at 170.

@Masterobert: Oh, okay, maybe that's why haha. I only have 46% from Empress, DS link and card sets.

XD
19% luck.
11 atk wg.
113 unscrolled cane.

Yay for a poor guy's phantom. I enjoy the class, I don't play for damage.

[quote=x1mmortality]@ILoveHaters Yeah, uhh, what's your range? Because with similar equips to my Phantom, my Phantom out-damages my shad lol. (151 Phantom)
What's your %Boss OP? I only do 100-180k on bosses with Mille and Carte Noire and I have a 45krange buffed lol.[/quote]

I have over 70% boss damage from Empress set, Finale Card, and character cards.

@ILoveHaters Yeah, uhh, what's your range? Because with similar equips to my Phantom, my Phantom out-damages my shad lol. (151 Phantom)
What's your %Boss OP? I only do 100-180k on bosses with Mille and Carte Noire and I have a 45krange buffed lol.

Phantom level 173 100% luck 73k range.
Cost- 0
Cost- no mesos
Cost- hand me down items.

i enjoyed my phantom experience.

lol I have about 4.5b funding on my shad. and have 58%luk excluding my weapon. 66% with it. So u could have done better with 6.4b.

[quote=KilIerCombo]Where did you factor in how much the mastery books costed you? Thats what I thought. And I don't think I even need to say this but the funding still would have taken you further on a better class.[/quote]

I have gotten nearly all my Mastery Books for free from the Renegades Shop.

That may explain it. I need a better one anyways

[quote=Sync55]My range is better with 4B funding[/quote]

I'm a heavy bosser, I guess most of my fundings went into the Carte Finale.

At least they're better than NLs

My range is better with 4B funding

[quote=CinderTea]Need to get some %luk on that empress gear and I think you'd be better off using dojo gloves unless you godly scroll that empress one. Why aren't you using a better heart for your android?

15% LUK Earrings should be really cheap.[/quote]

I am planning on getting 15% earrings, pendant, and belt.
My Dojo gloves expired just today, and so has my heart. I still want my android to follow me, so I replaced it.
I'm not too worried about my Empress gear though atm. But thanks for the help.