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NameSpoof Level 203 Bera Blade Master
Is there anyone here who is really into there religion, something like an extremist or just a heavy believer. Just wondering as most people i know say they're religious but don't know much about it.
Posted: October 2013 Permalink

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TrueAtheist Level 63 Bera Crossbow Man Justaway Guild See what games, anime & art TrueAtheist is intoTrueAtheist
Words frequently have more than one meaning in common usage. Look up atheism on Wiktionary. For this reason it is useful to clarify what you mean. What makes "lack of belief in god(s)" the "basic, literal, root meaning"?

New Atheism does have something to do with science. It is rejection of theism from a scientific materialist perspective and belief that organized religion should be opposed. I'm not calling you one.

The meaning of words tends to change over time. People aren't doing this to confuse you. It's just how language works.[/quote]

The Greek root meaning of atheism comes from "atheos" which means "without god(s)".

I understand what you're saying and I know I'm not going to change your mind, we're just looking at the same issue from two different perspectives.. On one hand atheism is a broad umbrella term that does have a literal definition, but on the other hand different ideas and culture are going to affect that word and attach things to it. I totally get that, I just think it's important to make that distinction instead of just calling everything atheist, because all that does is give atheists a bad rep. It's the same as thinking about extremist Christians who hate gays and then classifying them as Christians. Yes they fall under the umbrella term of Christian but I think it's more beneficial to distinguish them as being "Christians who hate gays", likewise these new atheists you speak of I think it better to distinguish them as "atheists who argue from a scientific perspective", as not all atheists fall into that subcategory.
Oct 28 2013
UAPaladin Level 210 Windia Night Walker 4
Well do you believe in God? Yes or no? It's a yes or no question.

@UAPaladin You don't need Catholicism to teach your kids good morals.. You don't need a religion to tell your kids not to steal and not to kill people, it's common sense and basic parenting that anyone should be doing regardless of their religion.

One could even argue Catholicism in particular comes with a whole host of bad morals, as the Catholic church has historically promoted hate by condemning homosexuals. In the year 2013 with the knowledge we have right now about the brain I personally would not want to be brainwashing my kids with outdated facts.

@Billionz "Atheists are people who do care and are proud of it." Unfortunately you're not allowed to make up definitions for words just because you want to. The definition of atheism is a lack of belief in a god(s). Nothing else. Chinese people are atheist to a large extent since Buddhists don't believe in God.[/quote]

Yeah, like I said in an earlier post, 90% of the things in Catholicism can be taught by atheists, but religion isn't only about moralism, just look back at one of my previous posts for my tirade on this, I'm not going to type it again. I really hate it when people think that Catholics condemn homosexuals, this is a very bad stereotype, and the church has never, ever said anything bad against being a homosexual. The only thing about homosexuality that the church is against is homosexual sex, but that's because, like I said in an earlier post, sex as a Christian is designed to serve two purposes: the bonding of two people and the creation of life, which isn't possible with homosexual sex. Unfortunately, way to many people misunderstand what the church teaches about homosexuality, some Catholics included (which I find absolutely ridiculous, if you're going to be of a religion, you should at least know what they teach about things), and this makes everybody think that we think that it's a horrible thing that if you're a homosexual and that you're going to burn in hell etc, etc. I admire homosexuals and their bravery in admitting that they are, though some of society (other people than mis-informed Catholics are against them too) thinks it's a bad thing. Anyways, it's not like they can help it or anything. It's like telling someone that they're going to hell because they're ugly, which is just flat out stupid.

Just because I mentioned it a couple of times here, I just want to point out that most Catholics don't believe in hell (or heaven for that matter) as a physical place. Which, of course means you can't "burn" in it. I used that saying to point out the way that many of the ignorant Catholics act.
Oct 28 2013
w8noobhaxor Level 20 Bera Citizen
Good thing that you mention that you're 16...
Because I'm actually 18.

Please, go to sleep it's past your bedtime kiddo.

Buh bye[/quote]

You seem like you have something to prove. Awfully immature for an 18 year old. That being said, I think it's fair to say some 18 year olds are more childish than some 16 year olds. Your point is invalid.
Oct 28 2013
ultracheese Level 22 Scania
The Greek root meaning of atheism comes from "atheos" which means "without god(s)".[/quote]

It is an etymological fallacy to assert that this is the proper meaning of the word.

I understand what you're saying and I know I'm not going to change your mind, we're just looking at the same issue from two different perspectives.. On one hand atheism is a broad umbrella term that does have a literal definition, but on the other hand different ideas and culture are going to affect that word and attach things to it. I totally get that, I just think it's important to make that distinction instead of just calling everything atheist, because all that does is give atheists a bad rep. It's the same as thinking about extremist Christians who hate gays and then classifying them as Christians. Yes they fall under the umbrella term of Christian but I think it's more beneficial to distinguish them as being "Christians who hate gays", likewise these new atheists you speak of I think it better to distinguish them as "atheists who argue from a scientific perspective", as not all atheists fall into that subcategory.[/quote]

I think it is important to make these distinctions as well, but it seems like we disagree on how best to accomplish this (linguistic prescription vs. being more precise).
Oct 28 2013
Twerkable Level 70 Scania Evan 6th Growth See what games, anime & art Twerkable is intoTwerkable
Good thing that you mention that you're 16...
Because I'm actually 18.

Please, go to sleep it's past your bedtime kiddo.

Buh bye[/quote]

lol i hope you know that age doesn't define maturity
i'm 18 too, but you're no better than @chachi
for thinking you're better than somebody because you're older than them...
hell, i know people 25+ that act more immature than young grade school children.
Oct 28 2013
yukinariyuki Level 168 Galicia Wild Hunter 4
I will be honest, I really don't care for religion, even though im catholic
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okay, like before,when i was little, I'd be so into god and all that. but years went by and I learned about science. after that, going to church and all that stuff seemed really stupid because I kinda believe that science made what we are. but every once in a while I'd had the thought that god created this world?
I dunno, I guess you could consider me atheist.. my sis and mom are religious, evertim I lie she says Ill go to hell or some bullcrap...
Oct 28 2013
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