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Assessment of End Game Polearms

This is my assessment of an Aran's end game polearms:

Crimson Arcglaive: Fastest commonly available polearm, and decent base attack. Fairly expensive. Perfect for an average player and a SI bosser.
Maple Karstan: Same speed as an AG, but 17 attack weaker and a lower potential tier. Fairly cheap. Good for a low level player/ low funded player
Zedbug/Dragon Chielbird: The Dragon weapon is an upgrade of the zedbug, and they both have a slow (8) speed, making them really bad for an endgame aran, but sometimes used over a Karstan for the better potential.
Purple Surfboard: 3 less attack than an AG, but fast speed making it the best polearm for training and bossing. However it loses to an AG and RSB when there's SI. But 3 attack is not that important. Incredibly rare. Incredibly expensive.
Red Surfboard: A weapon with equal base attack to an AG, but less speed making it worse in all cases except for SI bossing, in which it is equal. Average cost. Decent damage. Cheap alternative to an AG.
Heavenly Messenger: This PA is rare, and it is 5 more attack than a Karstan, but shares its lower potential tier. Expensive, and not worth the 5 extra attack over a karstan.
Reverse/Timeless Disera: As expensive as an AG, (timeless is MORE expensive) and less damage output. Under SI, an AG still beats it. Plus, you can't trade it after its equipped. Higher leveled, but same pot tier. If you can afford/make this just get an AG.
Machlear: Often used in bosses due to its 5% extra crit rate. And skeles/O4/5 training for the damage bonus. Same speed and base att as an AG, however goes up to 20att less and must be scrolled with tablets, which can blow it up. Also it costs 5M/2hours to use, so it is not efficient to your wallet. Also with nerfed crit this is a ~2-5% increase to your damage. Not worth the extra effort to scroll over an arcglaive IMO
VIP Polearm: Slow speed, however it can destroy the arcglaive under the right conditions (with SI and Acc-E7), and better potential. Not as efficient for the average situation though.Fiarly rare and expensive. Discontinued item though. Will become more rare and more expensive with time.

Forthcoming Polearms:
LHC polearm: this is either the level 140 or 130 one. If its the level 130, the large dex required to get it is worth the Fast (5) speed. If its the level 140 polearm only, don't bother. Slow (8) speed at 122 attack is pretty much the VIP Polearm with a really high dex requirement. WHen it comes out 4th pot tier will be removed so it doesn't beat the arc in any way except in the best conditions, however under any other condition, the arc wins.
3rd tier Maple PA: Same as the AG, with 10 less attack and no DEX requirement. My advice: if you have the dex, get the AG, if not stick with the Maple PA. Since 80 dexs easy to get with all stat equips, the AG is likely better.

December 23, 2010

15 Comments • Newest first

plain88

@Lothaire: Crit isn't as good as it used to be...

Reply January 11, 2011
hyperfire7

Go Red Surfboards!

Reply January 11, 2011
ninja88880

Messenger is not more expensive than glaive -___-

Reply January 10, 2011
sorgarione

This hasn't passed the two week mark yet, so I can still post on this.

Likely, the level 130 PA will never come. Thus, the arcglaive and PSB will be the best weapon choices for a while longer.

Reply January 10, 2011
ronny278

[quote=LuckWoif]arcglaives are problem with their dex req..for a 4 base dex player.
So i guess Maple Karstan is an end game? T_T[/quote]

Trust me i'm dexless and I'm not even specialising in any dex equips and im sitting on like 76 dex now. Arcglaive is such a pain to acquire.

Reply December 26, 2010 - edited
LordPsych

Super Snowboard?

Reply December 26, 2010 - edited
ballerazn1234

Wait for 160 polearm
Fast speed

Reply December 26, 2010 - edited
ronny278

[quote=sorgarione]True
In that case VIP > CAG in end game.
And I don't think YA, SI/WB or AccE7(Mech Skill) stack.
But BaMs are better of using ADarkAura, as that gives a 240% damage boost in a full party.
But when Mechs come out, they have AccE7 which boosts party weapon speed, so that may get a VIP to max.
However in a PERFECT party (1 mech, 1DrK 1 BaM, 1 pally (CO) 1 bucc(SI), would you really want an Aran to fill that last slot, or an NL/Corsair?[/quote]

I'd want a bishop in there, bossing-wise.

Reply December 26, 2010 - edited
sorgarione

True
In that case VIP > CAG in end game.
And I don't think YA, SI/WB or AccE7(Mech Skill) stack.
But BaMs are better of using ADarkAura, as that gives a 240% damage boost in a full party.
But when Mechs come out, they have AccE7 which boosts party weapon speed, so that may get a VIP to max.
However in a PERFECT party (1 mech, 1DrK 1 BaM, 1 pally (CO) 1 bucc(SI), would you really want an Aran to fill that last slot, or an NL/Corsair?

Reply December 25, 2010 - edited
plain88

Also in a perfect situation (Booster+Speed Infusion+Yellow Aura) I think the VIP Polearm can max out speed.

Reply December 25, 2010 - edited
sorgarione

@moneypony
That PA's stats look sick.
Unless PSBs become more common, I'd say its worth it. However the extra 80 DEX required over an AG, make it less desirable than an AG when doing Speed Infusion training/bossing. However, the better potential possibilities could make up for that.

@The guy who asked about speed, speed matters a lot for arans because of combo buildup. However with recharge, combo buildup does not depend on weapon speed as much. And weapon speed matters less.

As for the VIP Polearm, the extra base attack and higher potential tier COULD make it better than an AG, but again, it depends on the circumstances. Frankly, I'd pick the AG, due to higher speed, cost and availability. However, you could choose the VIP over the AG for the same reason that you could choose an A Zedbug/D.Chielbird over a karstan.

Reply December 24, 2010 - edited
Bloop28

Psh, how about Machlears? D:

Reply December 23, 2010 - edited
sorgarione

yep. And sorry about the zedbug thing. I thought they were 9, but the stuff I said still applies. As for the 77 maple weapons, I didn't include them as they won't be out for 5 months. And we'll likely get chaos by then, so maybe weapon speed won't matter as much.

Reply December 23, 2010 - edited
zrandom

I want an arcglaive

Reply December 23, 2010 - edited
SpyDave

Oh you got it good.

Reply December 23, 2010 - edited