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mines about 18k-23k unbuffed at 143 with a 105 attack dagger and a 0 attack shield so idk what the hall you guys are equiping your shads with?

Mines about 74k at 182 self buffed w/ftc :o

My shads range is pretty low 6k at lvl 100
Question, What would be my range with all the link skills 110% luck and about 260 w.atk ( just from dag and equips ) at level 200

hiiii dylen mines 46k buffed , 29k clean ;D GOML

42k self buffed at 151 ;P

189 31k buffed

Thug life.

level 200, 225k buffed

well when i played my shad PRE-hyper it was 189k buffed
it be much more now, but i moved to a db sorry shad community o.o
i just need to solo empress to bring in some funds i'll be back shortly

lv159 38k buffed @-@

25k self buffed -.-
My equips arent even bad. They're just not good.

[quote=tgamej]120k unbuffed, 160k buffed. No empress gears, still old school, my damage is too low to be shown.[/quote]

Incredibly Low, Me, with 122k Clean, I used to reach around 180k buffed, with now, 140k clean I reach around 220k, I am sure something is Wrong with your range, or you are pretty much lying about it.

at 142 im 14k buffed

I'm around 83k somes buffed son

[quote=tgamej]120k unbuffed, 160k buffed. No empress gears, still old school, my damage is too low to be shown.[/quote]

How come when you buff up it is so little..when it is already 120k unbuffed.

[quote=tgamej]120k unbuffed, 160k buffed. No empress gears, still old school, my damage is too low to be shown.[/quote]

..120k unbuffed is too low to be shown..?

http://i.imgur.com/hxCp8Bh.png

41k buffed at 182
im happy with it

120k unbuffed, 160k buffed. No empress gears, still old school, my damage is too low to be shown.

Does self-buffed include the Coin Flip buff?

61k self buffed at lvl 172

aw only 37k self buffed

[url=http://i.imgur.com/yhkcy.jpg]2pro[/url]

level 153, ~90.4k self buffed, 113k with flip the coin, 72k clean.

104k buffed at 194.

[quote=OneRockGod]@aaronthecow: You just dont get how dead Bellocan is, do you?

Ya make it sound easy, and at the same time, make it sound like I have no friends, or horrible friends. Well played.

The fact is, Bellocan is dead, and honestly, to have 6 people online from my BL who: 1, know wtf to do during the HTPQ, 2, Know how to start the HTPQ (im one who doesnt know how to do it or even how to start it. ive never done it before), 3, Willing to travel all the way to Leafre just to do an annoying and im sure, boring, HTPQ, 4, Willing to do the prequests so they can start the HTPQ, and 5, willing to waste 20 mins for all of the forementioned things.... not a chance in Bellocan.

Also, for the 930489394 time, this is not "easy". It is not "easy" for some random person to get the Leafre Codex set effect and then get 70% more PDR. It is easi[i]ER[/i] now, but not [i]easy[/i] in general.[/quote]

I don't really mean to imply that you have few or bad friends It's just surprising to me not being able to find 6 people.

[quote=OneRockGod]@aaronthecow: did you read the part where I said "in bellocan"?[/quote]

I'm sure you have six friends willing to sacrifice 20 minutes for you.

19k unbuffed 33.3k at 150. Only funding I have is what equips 300 mil could buy me.

[quote=OneRockGod]@aaronthecow: i didnt say KILLING HT was hard. Pay attention. I said it's pretty much impossible to get INTO if youre in Bellocan, unless you know someone with a Badge who is willing to go through the pre quests just to get you in.

Youre arguing against something that wasnt even my point. My point was that Shads were saying it was easy to get cap dmg with BStab for a long time. And it is not easy up until now to get 100% PDR as a Shad.[/quote]

Did you read the part where I said the quests take 20 minutes tops?

[quote=OneRockGod]@aaronthecow: HT set is pretty impossible to get in Bello unless you know someone who has a Badge and they are willing to go through all the pre quests to let you in.
Shadower Instinct gives 20% not 30%
It takes a long time to get max ambition
Lumi card is easy to get.... when it's available
15% PDR neb is easy to get, but anything higher in bello is like 300-800m
What character card gives PDR?

Also, Hyper Evo patch made it easier for Shads to get PDR since shields can now have wep potential.
We are talking about what is easy to obtain, not what is just possible. People have been saying capping with BStab is easy since before Lumis too, so scratch that way of obtaining PDR. I don't even get why you're arguing me. 100k range on a shad is not "easy" in the first place.[/quote]

Ht should take you under 20 minutes with your range.Prequests are even easier than they were before Manon in evo world drops crys so quests should take you 20 minutes tops.

Pirate's Way 3 Pirate Cards Ignore DEF +2% +4% +6% +8%

I didn't say 100k range was easy,I said getting 100% pdr is.

25k Self-Buffed 121

10k higher than this picture now.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i111/Drakuaza/Aurabandlt200_zps26f301d1.png

10k self buffed at lvl 85

40k buffed with no mw at lvl 145

[quote=OneRockGod]@aaronthecow: considering HoH is dead in bellocan, all I can do is LHC and those only have a measly 20% PDR.
And that's beside the point I made because 100% PDR on a shad pre hyper evo patch was nearly impossible.[/quote]

Hypers didn't add any pdr to my knowledge.

30% ht set
20-30? % from shadow instinct
10? % from ambition
10% from lumi
15-21% on weapon not including cubing
3-5? % is possible from character cards

So already your upto 80-90% without even cubing your weapon.

None of those are really out of anyone's reach 15% neb is fairly cheap "nearly impossible" is abit of an overstatement.Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong I didn't even know shadow instinct gave pdr until recently.Hoh isn't the only place you need pdr for late stage bosses need it even more especially with the flat 50% damage reduction.

[quote=OneRockGod]@aaronthecow: PDR is practically useless on normal mobs.[/quote]

Wow really? What I'm implying is that as a higher level shadower you won't be aiming to attack things with less pdr really...

[quote=OneRockGod]94k range selfbuffed with mw20.

Idk why people say capping with BStab is easy... I cap with it, but only like 60% of the time and only with crits. Also it takes the full Flip the Coin buff to get there and i have 145% Luk, 24 att D.Khanjar, and a 151 att Dagger with 12% total damage. Achieving all this was not easy and Flip the Coin buff was not even available when people started saying this...[/quote]

Well hitting 100% pdr is super handy

Lv. 112 (with Seclusion Shield)

Clean - 7.3k-8.3k
Self Buffed ( w/ Lv. 1 Shadow Instinct, 5 points ) - 9.9k-11.2k

*update on me
i am lvl 195 and have a 83k range, thanks mostly to my ee scrolls and clean slates keep working, that and i gained like an additional 14% luk <3
and i still dont have a dragon khanjar woot woot

Just to throw a wrench into things, I've got a 7-10k range buffed on a freshly 4th-job advanced Shadower; only it was intended to be an odd build, so that's with pure STR instead of LUK.

Clean 340k: http://i.imgur.com/1GCPvS5.png
Buffed w.o Echo 406k: http://i.imgur.com/28z0WaS.png
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I'll be having Pre-Hyper and Post-Hyper Videos.

Only a 30k clean range at 142

29k-32k unbuffed
somewhere around 42k buffed
lvl 177, everything's maxed except for mw (lvl 12)
:S

[url=http://i.imgur.com/W75hUTA.jpg]61k clean [/url]

[quote=crayolamix]Nice range man[/quote]
Thanks babe<3
Sica<3

[quote=BabyExorcist]51k Clean
65k Self Buffed
Level 186[/quote]

Nice range man

51k Clean
65k Self Buffed
Level 186

@Eyjafjoll: Nope, mine is MW20.

99k min range, level 200.
Max range? Buffed or unbuffed? That's a secret~

[quote=Ghetto415]Lvl 191, 66.5k self buffed and 56.3k clean. Pretty satisfied with my range.[/quote]

That's really bizarre, since I have 54k clean and 70k self buffed. Do you have MW30? o-o

Lvl 191, 66.5k self buffed and 56.3k clean. Pretty satisfied with my range.