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Is he lying to me?

So this guy here , @tips1660 is in my alliance. He mentioned selling NX in the alliance (Risk/Bastion) chat about selling nx at 1:55. I thoughtt "oh. that's a bit pricey, but it's from the alliance, what's 5M more?". So I asked for some vouchers. He told me he had the NX scammer list on basil or whatever, then someone else in the alliance vouched for him, so I though okay, let's do this.
Though I don't have the SS of me giving him the mesos, I hope this would be enough.
http://gyazo.com/2e19aada53ff022cf24b8af837e2e93d
http://gyazo.com/4973e690cea8eecb0cb70e40371ee40b

Later he PM'd be about being hacked. http://gyazo.com/79207835986dd694ba22f51fc749f06f
I don't believe this because :
1. I just met him today so he has no information whatsoever about me.
2. He never logged off the whole time we were chatting, so how could he have known that I was buying NX? The only explanation for me is that he was lying.
3. Minutes after I got scammed, I recieved that PM, coincidence? I think not.

November 18, 2012

42 Comments • Newest first

TroiSky

@sano4444 If anyone has already read the thread, I was already aware of everything, nor was I complaining about losing the mesos. I did not progress things any further.
If people bothered to read to fully understand the situation, you would of saw I already said this. (Page 3)
[quote=TroiSky]@tips1660 Your posts are starting to sound almost planned out .. so I played detective and signed on the Nexon website to check your characters, and what do you know?
http://gyazo.com/a391ea1e1a68587d658333ff3c4b6506 hi @StormDuckie

P.S. should stop trying to reply to her. You've already said you will compensate me later. [b] What's done is done and I take your word that you will reimburse me. [/b]

EDIT : btw, liking your own comments don't help at all. Just a [i]tip[/i] [/quote]

Care to read next time please. I don't need some lecture about purchasing NX.

Also, as amusing as this is.. @Mhmmmm , you should stop now
Thank you for the funny comments. Have a good day.

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
LeGoBuddy

@Mhmmmm

If I can talk, I don't really find pretending to be a girl on the internet "manly." Just my opinion, though.

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
Xugnacious

You get richer by rip people off in Fm. now you are screwed by nub that scammed you. gg

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
vegito49

[quote=billy61]You're all getting off of topic. Your just all trying to keep a conversation with @Mhmmmm and not even helping TS who's issue has been resolved. NX Trading was illegal in maple from the moment cash shop came out with only like 9 items in it. And Only the scammer (or not) and TS can have proof of whether they were making this up, got scammed, was scamming, gave away account info (another warning from MapleTips, also not allowed), or if they're even pissed.... probably are.[/quote]

Thread should die just let it die.

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
billy61

You're all getting off of topic. Your just all trying to keep a conversation with @Mhmmmm and not even helping TS who's issue has been resolved. NX Trading was illegal in maple from the moment cash shop came out with only like 9 items in it. And Only the scammer (or not) and TS can have proof of whether they were making this up, got scammed, was scamming, gave away account info (another warning from MapleTips, also not allowed), or if they're even pissed.... probably are.

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
vegito49

[quote=Mhmmmm]Okay.[/quote]
oopsey sory about that i meant to quote the scammer dude.

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
vegito49

[quote=Mhmmmm]I'm terrified.[/quote]

i'll tell da homies to let u Pass through VIP

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
sano4444

>implying lifting weights makes you strong
This whole thread is just a big joke. Give it up. I believe in @tips1660. as "sketchy" and "set up" his "excuses" are, he appears very distraught about the entire situation. whether or not that is just a ploy to undermine the situation is yet to be seen, but i tend to give the benefit of the doubt. He claims to reimburse you. Just accept that and move on. if he doesn't than everyone will know about it anyway, and if you feel you need to, write to nexon co. Besides, you knew full well the consequences of purchasing nx. You can't blame anyone but yourself. if you had bad vibes from the start, you should've listened and not done the transaction. never second guess your gut. Lastly, you should have done a 50/50 trade or ask for something to "hold" until you got your nx. this way, you wouldn't have lost as much.

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
vegito49

@tips1660

Can i fite u dawg? Nah im kidding you'll probably die once you set foot in my neighborhood

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
tips1660

@Mhmmmm TS assumed i was a scammer from the start.
Have you not seen star wars?

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
mrcolorado

A well thought out alibi losertips. Cunning yet, too obvious at the same time.

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
tips1660

@Mhmmmm not really. Also, if you think trolling on this thread is REAL Trolling, you have a lot to learn young padawan.
I'm pretty sure you and @iOooh are the same people, considering how when one person posts the other comes immediately after. kinda suspicious dont you think?

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
tips1660

@Mhmmmm i think you've pretty effectively established your status as a troll. *i applaud you*
also, if you really want to go, you'll be in for a surprise. Any male who dresses up as a girl in complete pink establishes where his true sexuality lies, if you get what i mean.
Anyways, storm duckie is a pretty frequent troll on basil who I'm friends with in RL. we were talking on FB when i told him about this and he's like "TROLLING OPPORTUNITY" so he came onto basil and we began trolling. He quit ms ~1 year ago and gave me his acc hence why Erotic could see it on the accs i provided to him/her.

Nice try kid

and yes, i do lift.

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
iOooh

@Mhmmmm you would be surprised as to who stormduckie really is *wink wink, nudge nudge*

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
iOooh

@StopNowz or he could not pay up at all! LOLOL

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
MrTouchnGo

@tips1660: Unfortunately, I will not be offering you readmission to Ivalice, as you stated in your other thread that you scammed someone. Scamming is unacceptable under any conditions, plagiarism or not.

[quote=tips1660]I believe that i was hacked for scamming some dude on GS (who plagiarized my guide).[/quote]

http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2545895/0/Ive_been_hacked_watch_out.html

However, I would appreciate it if you reimbursed @TroiSky fully for the amount he has lost (25k nx or 1.375b). Thanks.

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
tips1660

@MapleMerchants rankings haven't changed. and i thought this look was funny
@lmaboy159 thanks, glad to know at least one person has some faith. One little incident and almost a years worth of friendship-alliance relationships/faith gets turned to ash all over a 'coincidence'. Anyways, I'm hoping nexon responds to the ticket, in the meanwhile I'll check my mule accounts out see if the moneys on there

I've done a ton of transactions in the past, have a ton of vouches, and am extremely credible. I refuse to let one little incident here ruin that well-earned reputation. I'll work at compensation and getting it back, though I think i'm gonna call it quits after this. If nexon doesnt respond within the week I'll just go out and work on getting the nx myself/ look through the mules in hopes that the hacker put it on one of them ( since I cant access my main still).

anyways i'm done posting here now, if anyone has any questions pm me. I'll be sending @TroiSky a confirmation that I'm working on it as soon as I can.

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
TroiSky

[quote=LeGoBuddy]Hate to say it, but even if Viet was scammed he shouldn't of risked buying it. Viet, you took a chance and lost. I am guessing you knew there was a chance of getting scammed, and if you cared enough you wouldn't of risked buying it.[/quote]

I know I did, but the guy was pretty reputable .. As I said earlier, what's done is done.

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
abilas26

Mm well Tips has been in the ally for quite and I have seen him do a lot of NX transactions with other people that have gone fairly well.
The hacking story does sound prety sketchy, but if he's agreed to pay you back Jon, then I think we should leave it at that until he does.

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
LeGoBuddy

Hate to say it, but even if Viet was scammed he shouldn't of risked buying it. Viet, you took a chance and lost. I am guessing you knew there was a chance of getting scammed, and if you cared enough you wouldn't of risked buying it, even if there was a vouch.

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
TroiSky

@tips1660 Your posts are starting to sound almost planned out .. so I played detective and signed on the Nexon website to check your characters, and what do you know?
http://gyazo.com/a391ea1e1a68587d658333ff3c4b6506 hi @StormDuckie

P.S. should stop trying to reply to her. You've already said you will compensate me later. What's done is done and I take your word that you will reimburse me.

EDIT : btw, liking your own comments don't help at all. Just a [i]tip[/i]

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
tips1660

@Mhmmmm don't know you well enough to send you that compensation. I dont even know the TS at all but I just sent him it for compensation right now( unless you mean the nx in which case I really don't see any way of giving it)

edit: keyboard warrior = trying to sound tough over the internet. I don't mean to be sexist but you sure sound like a G.i.r.l. after that whole meme reference I also cannot take yo u seriously anymore.

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
iOooh

@Mhmmmm are you admitting to being a G.I.R.L?
@Xonchibi you're a troll right

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
Xonchibi

I'm not sure about this, because I've known tips for a long time, and I would have vouched for him, but at the same time, Jon is one of the most legit people I know. AND there is SS proof....hmmm..

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
iOooh

@UnBias that guide sounds smexy

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
tips1660

@sano4444 final fantasy advanced tactics
@Mhmmmm so what are you doing here exactly? I think you pretty soundly expressed your opinion in prior posts. You sound like a keyboard warrior
edit: if i was a scammer I wouldn't have:
+ sent him info to all available accs
+ sent him info to my P2S acc (with 250 referrals and 1$ earning a day in PP which can be then converted to nx)

a scammer would have just left. Anyways I'm working on the compensation

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
sano4444

[quote=silversport3]I just want to say Ivalice as a guild has nothing to do with this. This is just one scammer/hacker/innocent person/who knows what that has caused trouble in the alliance. We have strict rules against scamming or anything that involves illegitimacy, and we rule with a fair hand. Sorry for those who've been scammed this weekend, if what tips says is true, and he does compensate you, he will be allowed back into our guild/alliance.
Thank you and I'm sorry for all of the troubles.[/quote]

This is so off topic but: Isn't ivalice the name of some town in a anime?(i forgot the anime) or game?(i think it was fire emblem but i cant remember)

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
nc4228

The best explanation is the one that makes the least assumptions. This is the rule of Occam's razor or the rule of parsimony. Given this rule, who do u think is telling th truth?

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
tips1660

@Mhmmmm who exactly are you and how exactly do you relate to this issue at hand in any way shape or form? Do you have nothing better to do with your time or are you antoher basil-wannabe troll?

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
iOooh

@SaintDeath you sound like a keyboard warrior
@TroiSky can i have the account infos then?

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
TroiSky

@tips1660: As I just finished PM-ing you.. I would not want you account infos, I would just like my mesos back or for you to compensate me a 25k NX card out of your own pocket.

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
tips1660

@Mhmmmm well I just sent @troisky the info to all of my accs (that I have) as the first step towards compensation (they aren't even bad accs...). I'm working my best at it.
and if scamming a guy for ripping your 'intellectual property' counts as scamming, then ya i've scammed once. I'm such a BA.

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
silversport3

I just want to say Ivalice as a guild has nothing to do with this. This is just one scammer/hacker/innocent person/who knows what that has caused trouble in the alliance. We have strict rules against scamming or anything that involves illegitimacy, and we rule with a fair hand. Sorry for those who've been scammed this weekend, if what tips says is true, and he does compensate you, he will be allowed back into our guild/alliance.
Thank you and I'm sorry for all of the troubles.

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
tips1660

@Viped you sir, make no sense what so ever. If i can't access the account (because I wasn't on it)
+how am I supposed to know that there was an NX trade going on at that time?
+ How am I supposed to know who was involved?
+How do I give nx when I don't have any to sell at the current time in the first place? I still don't get where you're getting the idea that I had nx from in the first place.

If i can access my account, i'll work my best at fixing it.

@TroiSky I saw a guy with the name Viet in the alliance a few times and i thought that was you, in that case my bad. I do share my account with a friend, so it could have been him. I'll try and ask him on FB to see what happened but I seriously cannot access the account right now. I'll work at getting some compensation for you but i needa regain access first

@silversport3 thanks a lot

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
silversport3

this is weird tips. I'll go ahead and kick you but, this whole thing's weird

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
TroiSky

@Viped I was trying to appear neutral on the matter, making assumptions can be bad.
@tips1660 I see.. well I'd like to have you know that he took 1.375b ..

I was never a leader in the alliance.. I joined about 1 week ago. Another reason why I seemed skeptic about this is because the "hacker" already knew some of the names of the people in the guild. In this SS, http://gyazo.com/2e19aada53ff022cf24b8af837e2e93d

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
aranacc

Don't trust this guy. Hes going through to much sheit right now i say you just forget it it's to risky.

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
tips1660

@TroiSky: 1) that post was made under severe pressure
2) If 'I' scammed you, i'll work on reimbursing you for it I guess, if I can access my account..
3) I' was trying to log onto the account the whole time while it was going on, wanted to go on and zak but noticed i couldnt. cause it said "user is already logged on" and then that changed to "password is invalid"

People are incredibly cynical, only reason I PM'd you was because I remembered you being one of the leaders in the alliance (though I might have been wrong). I have never scammed legit players EVER in my life, and if I do regain access I'll try my best to reimburse you.

Reply November 18, 2012 - edited
nc4228

Plz use the rule of parsimony (Occam's razor is it's nickname)

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