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Can arans dojo?

Im a lvl 183 aran with 51k range i do 400ks to 600ks every combo and i can never finish. If there are any arans that can can i have some tips? Thx

December 28, 2012

32 Comments • Newest first

itaintsweet

[quote=Feeling]I counted it myself and I always thought it was around 14-15, and when I count most of the time it comes out correctly and the bosses spawn right away. ><
Anyway, I finally cracked [url=http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp154/XxDeathXD/Maple0133_zps8a8dd496.jpg]under 11 minutes today.[/url]
I got stunned twice also, there was still room for improvement. xD[/quote]

dayummm. congrats on breaking 11:00.
i hope you will ace all classes after the unlimited patch lol

Reply January 7, 2013
cilverx4

[quote=Feeling]I counted it myself and I always thought it was around 14-15, and when I count most of the time it comes out correctly and the bosses spawn right away. ><
Anyway, I finally cracked [url=http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp154/XxDeathXD/Maple0133_zps8a8dd496.jpg]under 11 minutes today.[/url]
I got stunned twice also, there was still room for improvement. xD[/quote]

Nice dude. my best so far is 10:15, though its on my kaiser, which is equivalent to hacking. I have still yet to master counting in the break room though =/

Reply January 7, 2013
crazymaster

If you're wearing a set that had an effect such as empress/tempest/etc., you might have a bit of trouble. Set effects null out the dojo's hp/mp recovery that usually takes place.

Reply January 7, 2013
snowkillerXP

Definitely.

I'm not quite sure what my range is without my dojo glove, but it's probably near yours. I have 100% PDR ( Or 110%, I forgot, but I don't think it even matters ), and 30% Boss, I can finish in 18 - 19 minutes.

Make sure to use beyonder, and push all bosses into a corner. Stand on top of them, and make sure they don't get a chance to attack you. Get heroes will in case you get seduced on Lyka or Mu Gong, and you can also use it if you end up getting blinded by one of the earlier bosses.

Reply January 7, 2013
Feeling

@Azngothopz: Yeah my Beyonder caps on the Dojo bosses. I have no idea what the record Aran time is though.

Reply January 7, 2013
Azngothopz

[quote=Feeling]I counted it myself and I always thought it was around 14-15, and when I count most of the time it comes out correctly and the bosses spawn right away. ><
Anyway, I finally cracked [url=http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp154/XxDeathXD/Maple0133_zps8a8dd496.jpg]under 11 minutes today.[/url]
I got stunned twice also, there was still room for improvement. xD[/quote]

Wow that's the best aran time thus far. My personal best was around 11:45 but i have yet to cap on beyonder hitting around 2 mill ish. Are you capping on beyonder on dojo bosses ?

Reply January 7, 2013
Feeling

I counted it myself and I always thought it was around 14-15, and when I count most of the time it comes out correctly and the bosses spawn right away. ><
Anyway, I finally cracked [url=http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp154/XxDeathXD/Maple0133_zps8a8dd496.jpg]under 11 minutes today.[/url]
I got stunned twice also, there was still room for improvement. xD

Reply January 4, 2013
Azngothopz

[quote=Feeling]@cilverx4: I don't know too much about it but I'm fairly certain that they spawn on 15 second intervals. The intervals are not related to the speed in which you kill the bosses at all. Basically, if you take longer than 15 seconds to kill a boss and head to the next stage, you have to wait until the next interval begins before the boss spawns. If you take less than 15 seconds, it will spawn as soon as that one ends. My wording is probably a bit confusing and it's a little hard to explain, sorry about that. ><
PM me if you have questions and I'll try to explain in greater detail.[/quote]

It's 10 second intervals not 15 seconds.

heres video giving example of the spawn time between each boss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwzomV1ZEaY

Reply January 4, 2013
aarongo

i can finish in 20 mins woth 60-65k range and be in top 50. You should do fine with a kr boggie since you can perma knock back monsters if you do a constant attack.

Reply January 3, 2013
Feeling

@itaintsweet: Yeah, hyper skills basically shaved an entire minute off my time lol.

Reply January 3, 2013
Rianael

[quote=awesomepossum37]No do not FT, use beyonder definitely.

Just realized, is it a 51k clean or max buffed? If it's max buffed I can see why you're having trouble. Get the demons slayer link for 10% boss and ALL Arans should have 20% boss from cleaving blows.

Since you won't be aiming for top 10 and most servers don't even fill up the full 50 list, at every 5 stage resting spots buy the +1 speed boost (arans can go over speed cap in dojo) and the +60 atk buff alternating.

Do not wear any set effect gear or else your mp regeneration will be super slow. What is your mp btw? I have 6200 and I still have some issues in stages 35-40 (low range, yea I know). The trick to overcoming MP shortage is have an mp familiar (Jr boogie, mr Ali, blue wyvern etc) and summon it, then take it back. This will give you the 15%mp recovery effect. Repeat this until you have full mp again! Do this is rest stops and if you have lots of time left on the individual stage timer, do it a couple times occasionally but watch the timer.

I strongly recommend leveling up, upgrading a little more, and mainly PRACTICE. The more you do it, the better your control will be! You can do it! BELIEVE IN YOURSELF.

EDIT: Also, since the mindset is simply to finish and not to get a great time, just make sure you can pass each individual stage's timer and have enough MP for the next bosses. Do not be concerned about the overall timer. As long as you can beat out the individual stage timer with MP to spare you will make it. Try getting a lv 200 to echo you too btw haha. Can't really think of anything else, but I'm in the same position as you are. It used to be tough with such low damage but with proper control it is very easy. I chat during stages and don't even pay attention half the time haha. GOOD LUCK[/quote]

I tried the +1 Attack speed in Dojo. JEZUS. Why can't Arans attack this fast normally... -sad face-. Shortened my time, 21->18~19mins. Thank youuu ^^. But, I really need Hero's Will, wouldn't spend so much time waiting for curses to go away.

Reply January 3, 2013
itaintsweet

[quote=Feeling]As of today my record is somewhere around 11:05; I had some screw-ups with spawn counting though, getting under 11 minutes is definitely possible, but I'm not so sure about under 10 minutes.
As for tips, make sure bosses are always pinned, especially the ones that can darkness / seduce / stun you such as Papa Pixie, the stone golem, Frankenroid, Poison Stone Golem, Manon, Griffey, Lyka, and the last boss. All of those bosses can stun, seduce, or darkness you, so it's important that you never give them a chance to do so. It definitely takes some practice but over time your record times will definitely start improving.[/quote]

Wow. that is an insane record.
Is your record significantly improved after hyper skills?
I dunno why i'm asking this.. but yea..

Reply January 3, 2013 - edited
Whiter

Well. I get around 13 minutes without any gloves, so I'm assuming I can get sometime within the 12-13 minutes range with gloves, possibly even better considering I always have some sort of minor screw up in each of my runs.
Anyway, my tips would be not to rush the bosses and rather to use osfbb to knock them back, and as you push them, jump forward to progress while starting up a new osfbb to keep the boss pinned. Always have body pressure on, and watch for the bosses that are ice resistant. Personally, I don't use ice charge until around round 30 I think it is because it's not worth the effort of buffing and debuffing until you get to the ToT bosses. Other than that just take whatever advice @Feeling has to provide considering he has the best time for an Aran that I've heard of.

Reply December 30, 2012 - edited
kalesko

personally i can finish it around 12-13 mins and it's only because of the delays in between the spawns which really annoys me. The other thing is that our lines are not huge so it's kind of hard to finish quickly towards the end.

Reply December 30, 2012 - edited
Feeling

@cilverx4: I don't know too much about it but I'm fairly certain that they spawn on 15 second intervals. The intervals are not related to the speed in which you kill the bosses at all. Basically, if you take longer than 15 seconds to kill a boss and head to the next stage, you have to wait until the next interval begins before the boss spawns. If you take less than 15 seconds, it will spawn as soon as that one ends. My wording is probably a bit confusing and it's a little hard to explain, sorry about that. ><
PM me if you have questions and I'll try to explain in greater detail.

Reply December 29, 2012 - edited
cilverx4

@feeling Can you give a quick explanation of spawn counting? Ive heard from some1 before, but I just want to confirm how that all works.

Reply December 29, 2012 - edited
Feeling

As of today my record is somewhere around 11:05; I had some screw-ups with spawn counting though, getting under 11 minutes is definitely possible, but I'm not so sure about under 10 minutes.
As for tips, make sure bosses are always pinned, especially the ones that can darkness / seduce / stun you such as Papa Pixie, the stone golem, Frankenroid, Poison Stone Golem, Manon, Griffey, Lyka, and the last boss. All of those bosses can stun, seduce, or darkness you, so it's important that you never give them a chance to do so. It definitely takes some practice but over time your record times will definitely start improving.

Reply December 29, 2012 - edited
Azngothopz

[quote=ImaClubYou]We can dojo. The important question, is how fast can an Aran finish that is humanly possible?

I've known Arans that can finish around 13-15 minutes.[/quote]

i can finish around 11-12 mins and i am not hitting max with beyonder on dojo bosses so im guessing around 9-10 ish would be fastest possible

Reply December 29, 2012 - edited
kosmachine

187k self buff, 110 boss? 60 PDR? 70 PDR? ish, and was able to finish it in like 13~15 mins. somewhere around there.

Reply December 29, 2012 - edited
Raiden

Alright, tips for dojo as an Aran.

1. Unless you know the resistances for Ice, keep snow charge off. Leviathan, Alishar, and Lilynouch are Ice-resistant, while Manon is Ice Weak, so make sure you buff accordingly.

2. Dojo buffs help A LOT. Note that the +1 attack speed buff breaks the normal speed cap, making OSFB incredibly fast. It's a bit of a waste to use it until the rounds with Papa Pixie and on, which I believe is 3 or 4. The Attack +60 and +30 stack.

3. Any set effects such as Empress will disable your mana regen.

4. Certain bosses can't be stuck in KB. This includes papa pixie and Frankenroid. These two have Darkness and Skill Lock, which is really annoying. Lyka will seduce you if they're ever out of KB state.

5. Body Pressure and Drain should be enough to tank every hit. It also builds special meter in the later rounds.

6. If you can't kill the boss in less than 100 attacks, you'll want to reset your position by jumping back/walking, since the game will stop you from attacking if you stay in one spot too long.

With that amount of damage, you should never be running out of time if you're constantly attacking.

Reply December 29, 2012 - edited
dwagonslay

if you rush lyka to the right and spam osfbb while standing on it (with drain on) you can almost 100% pin it

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
KonoKazuya

haha thx man

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
KonoKazuya

what how?

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
Raiden

[quote=KonoKazuya]Possum my range is 51k clean and 65k buffed

how do i get a evan character card?[/quote]

Simple: Make an Evan higher than level 30.

But I can't see how with a 65k buffed range, you can't finish dojo. I have 10k less than you and I'm doing 19 minutes.

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
KonoKazuya

Possum my range is 51k clean and 65k buffed

how do i get a evan character card?

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
popsicklezzz

get a Jr.Boogie Familiar and an Evan character Card for Endless MP

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
KonoKazuya

i got stuck at lyka becuz i ran pout of mp

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
awesomepossum37

No do not FT, use beyonder definitely.

Just realized, is it a 51k clean or max buffed? If it's max buffed I can see why you're having trouble. Get the demons slayer link for 10% boss and ALL Arans should have 20% boss from cleaving blows.

Since you won't be aiming for top 10 and most servers don't even fill up the full 50 list, at every 5 stage resting spots buy the +1 speed boost (arans can go over speed cap in dojo) and the +60 atk buff alternating.

Do not wear any set effect gear or else your mp regeneration will be super slow. What is your mp btw? I have 6200 and I still have some issues in stages 35-40 (low range, yea I know). The trick to overcoming MP shortage is have an mp familiar (Jr boogie, mr Ali, blue wyvern etc) and summon it, then take it back. This will give you the 15%mp recovery effect. Repeat this until you have full mp again! Do this is rest stops and if you have lots of time left on the individual stage timer, do it a couple times occasionally but watch the timer.

I strongly recommend leveling up, upgrading a little more, and mainly PRACTICE. The more you do it, the better your control will be! You can do it! BELIEVE IN YOURSELF.

EDIT: Also, since the mindset is simply to finish and not to get a great time, just make sure you can pass each individual stage's timer and have enough MP for the next bosses. Do not be concerned about the overall timer. As long as you can beat out the individual stage timer with MP to spare you will make it. Try getting a lv 200 to echo you too btw haha. Can't really think of anything else, but I'm in the same position as you are. It used to be tough with such low damage but with proper control it is very easy. I chat during stages and don't even pay attention half the time haha. GOOD LUCK

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
awesomepossum37

%boss and PDR?
I have 60% boss and 100% PDR with a 47k range and completed it in 25:01 just 5 days ago! (With great amount of ease not to mention)
Could I know what hyper skills you have available and if you have maxed heros will? That would help a lot.

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
ImaClubYou

We can dojo. The important question, is how fast can an Aran finish that is humanly possible?

I've known Arans that can finish around 13-15 minutes.

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
Raiden

Wait... you can't finish? You should be able to finish just fine. Which boss do you get stuck at?

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited