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What makes a person Atheist

"A little knowledge of science makes man an atheist, but an in-depth study of science makes him a believer in God." - Francis Bacon.
"I can conceive how it might be possible for a man to look down upon the earth and be an atheist, but I cannot conceive how he could look up into the heavens and say there is no God." -- Abraham Lincoln

~~~~~~~~~~~~The Maker~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

If a new object or a machine, which no one in the world has ever seen or heard of before, is shown to an atheist or any person and then a question is asked, " Who is the first person who will be able to provide details of the mechanism of this unknown object? After little bit of thinking, he will reply, 'the creator of that object.' Some may say 'the producer' while others may say 'the manufacturer.' What ever answer the person gives, keep it in your mind, the answer will always be either the creator, the producer, the manufacturer or some what of the same meaning, i.e. the person who has made it or created it. Don't grapple with words, whatever answer he gives, the meaning will be same, therefore accept it. -------BY Dr. Zakir Naik SOURCE: http://www.islam101.com/religions/provingGodExists.htm

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Math Analysis(Theory of Probability)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

In mathematics there is a theory known as 'Theory of Probability'. If you have two options, out of which one is right, and one is wrong, the chances that you will chose the right one is half, i.e. one out of the two will be correct. You have 50% chances of being correct. Similarly if you toss a coin the chances that your guess will be correct is 50% (1 out of 2) i.e. 1/2. If you toss a coin the second time, the chances that you will be correct in the second toss is again 50% i.e. half. But the chances that you will be correct in both the tosses is half multiplied by half (1/2 x 1/2) which is equal to 1/4 i.e. 50% of 50% which is equal to 25%. If you toss a coin the third time, chances that you will be correct all three times is (1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2) that is 1/8 or 50% of 50% of 50% that is 12½%.

A dice has got six sides. If you throw a dice and guess any number between 1 to 6, the chances that your guess will be correct is 1/6. If you throw the dice the second time, the chances that your guess will be correct in both the throws is (1/6 x 1/6) which is equal to 1/36. If you throw the dice the third time, the chances that all your three guesses are correct is (1/6 x 1/6 x 1/6) is equal to 1/216 that is less than 0.5 %.

Let us apply this theory of probability to the Qur'an, and assume that a person has guessed all the information that is mentioned in the Qur'an which was unknown at that time. Let us discuss the probability of all the guesses being simultaneously correct.

At the time when the Qur'an was revealed, people thought the world was flat, there are several other options for the shape of the earth. It could be triangular, it could be quadrangular, pentagonal, hexagonal, heptagonal, octagonal, spherical, etc. Lets assume there are about 30 different options for the shape of the earth. The Qur'an rightly says it is spherical, if it was a guess the chances of the guess being correct is 1/30.

The light of the moon can be its own light or a reflected light. The Qur'an rightly says it is a reflected light. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/2 and the probability that both the guesses i.e the earth is spherical and the light of the moon is reflected light is 1/30 x 1/2 = 1/60.

Further, the Qur'an also mentions every living thing is made of water. Every living thing can be made up of either wood, stone, copper, aluminum, steel, silver, gold, oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, oil, water, cement, concrete, etc. The options are say about 10,000. The Qur'an rightly says that everything is made up of water. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/10,000 and the probability of all the three guesses i.e. the earth is spherical, light of moon is reflected light and everything is created from water being correct is 1/30 x 1/2 x 1/10,000 = 1/60,000 which is equal to about .0017%.

The Qur'an speaks about hundreds of things that were not known to men at the time of its revelation. Only in three options the result is .0017%. I leave it upto you, to work out the probability if all the hundreds of the unknown facts were guesses, the chances of all of them being correct guesses simultaneously and there being not a single wrong guess. It is beyond human capacity to make all correct guesses without a single mistake, which itself is sufficient to prove to a logical person that the origin of the Qur'an is Divine. ---BY Dr. Zakir Naik SOURCE: http://www.islam101.com/religions/provingGodExists.htm

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Sum Up~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The only logical answer to the question as to who could have mentioned all these scientific facts 1400 years ago before they were discovered, is exactly the same answer initially given by the atheist or any person, to the question who will be the first person who will be able to tell the mechanism of the unknown object. It is the 'CREATOR', the producer, the Manufacturer of the whole universe and its contents. In the English language He is 'God', or more appropriate in the Arabic language, 'ALLAH'.
----BY Dr. Zakir Naik SOURCE: http://www.islam101.com/religions/provingGodExists.htm

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~What I Want to Say~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

So basically we knew of the thing in which the textbook has said that a certain scientist or whatever from somewhere has discovered it. But instead the people that believed in the religion of Islam have already known well before them. Also the Atheism started not too long ago I believe and before then, there were many scientists that are believing in God who was famous of discovering something new. As Francis said, "A little knowledge of science makes man an atheist, but an in-depth study of science makes him a believer in God." The people today that call themselves Atheist simply not knowing many things. Just by a well-known scientist who are an Atheist, people throw away their religion. In history there have been many wars. And the side in which believed in their religion the strongest wins. This is not on whoever is stronger or not, it is how much they can fight for what they believe in.

Source used: http://www.islam101.com/religions/provingGodExists.htm

January 29, 2013

27 Comments • Newest first

shanik

[quote=lkw]So if atheist dont believe in God(s), what do they believe? nothing?[/quote]

Depends on the atheist,I do not believe in any religion yet Hope is belief.
So when I hope I'm going to rock at the exam,it's a belief,which often slaps me in the face later...
So yeah Atheist doesn't believe in God but isn't all humans believing in something?
For example I can believe that I can beat Zakum with my DW,I can't know yet if I will beat it or not without going against it.
It's with belief that we advance in life I guess.
You want to become a doctor?You can believe that you'll become one,you don't know if you'll actually become one but you can hope and motivate yourself.

Reply January 30, 2013
TrueAtheist

[quote=lkw]So if atheist dont believe in God(s), what do they believe? nothing?[/quote]

They believe whatever they want to believe...

Reply January 29, 2013
TrueAtheist

[quote=lkw]Isnt atheism the belief that you dont believe in anything ? But isnt the belief in nothing a belief in itself? o.o[/quote]

No. Atheism isn't "I believe in nothing", it is "I don't believe in God(s)".

Reply January 29, 2013
TrueAtheist

[quote=PcPls123]lol So not one living person ever thought the earth was flat? Or by people, do you mean the majority? Or do you mean all the brainers knew it?

lol edit. Guess I should of read the link first. Scholars are far from among the majority of people. Scholars never thought the world was flat*[/quote]

I mean society as a whole, there is this misconception that in the past [b]everyone[/b] thought the world was flat. Early mathematicians knew the world was round from very early on, way before holy texts were written dating back to like 3,000 B.C.

The average citizen would also know the Earth was round because it would have just been common knowledge, the only people who would think the world was flat would be people who had no concept of mathematics and who were secluded from the rest of the world, but that's the same thing as today, I'm sure there's some tribe in the Amazon that thinks the world is flat. But any civilizations that constructed buildings and cities would have had the knowledge to figure out the world was round and they did.

@Swypth Atheism means the disbelief in deities.

Reply January 29, 2013 - edited
dimo

[quote=Swypth]There is no such thing as atheism because everyone worships SOMETHING, whether it be money, video games, women etc etc.....[/quote]

Worshiping "something" is not the definition of atheism, not even close.

Reply January 29, 2013 - edited
dimo

[quote=Criticism]How is this post supposed to be a refutation of his argument whatsoever? The point of that was that it was already found that the Earth was not flat, therefore the Qur'an isn't some mystical All-Knowing Magic 8 Ball of Wonder.[/quote]

[url=http://wormholeriders.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/Fringe-S3x12-Outlook-not-so-good.jpg]*Shakes the Magic Ball*[/url]

Reply January 29, 2013 - edited
TrueAtheist

[quote=ReLaX]That very much depends upon what the hell he's showing. If it's an object like a rock, then the answer would be "the first team of scientists to properly examine it". To say anything about it's "manufacturer" or "producer" -- You would have to assume such exists, that would have to be justified, and isn't with this lack of information.

Assuming everything is fair/unbiased.

The earth was already believed to be a sphere(which it isn't) far earlier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_Earth#Antiquity) and calculated within quite an impressive accuracy at 200 BC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_Earth#Hellenistic_era). Now, when was the Qu'ran written? 800 years later? 600 AD or something?

But since the earth isn't actually spherical, we can say that the Qu'ran was wrong here, right? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_of_the_Earth)

Nope, this would be accurate if you had a blind person guess who had never heard about how the universe works. Unfortunately you have a world where you can see the moon being half lighted, or only slightly lighted (http://www.planetsforkids.org/upload/-moon-a.jpg) unlike the sun which definitely produces its own light. If they could not figure that much out, they would have been morons. If they could, they would have common sense, but that wouldn't mean they were inspired.

We also consist of other atoms than Hydrogen and Oxygen, which means we're not completely made of water compounds nor is all the water compounds in us found as water. So to say "every living thing is made of x" and that merely means "every little living thing has a portion of x within it" seems to open a lot of possibilities. Suddenly, the 10,000 possibilities doesn't only exists as "false" answers, but as correct answers too as we are composed of thousands if not millions of different components and their sub-parts. So to say 1/10,000 is wrong, and taking it as true is highly questionably.

The Qu'ran is a big book of many crazy sentences which can be interpreted in many many ways. Take a look at this clip at 6:00 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4trHH6AuZ0

Here's what happens, some muslims tries to debate an embryologists, which they haven't been smart enough to check that he was first, and made a big mistake. They claimed that the Qu'ran said that in embryology, first the bones develop, then the flesh and then the muscles. The embryologist then inform them that he's and embryologist and that what they said was contrary to our scientific understanding of development. These structures form simultaneously, and the muslims turn around and say "Even if that's the case, the Qu'ran is still right.. blablabla". So, you don't have 1 sentence with 1 meaning which might be right or wrong. You have a book with thousands of statements which can be interpreted in several ways to match many things. This makes the book non-specific and cannot be taken as some kind of divine revelation.

As we can see, they were bollocks.

You seemingly don't know anything, and I'd be willing to talk to any muslim friend you have and I'll bet you that I'll know more science than the far majority of them.

Or how about our always lovely @Dimo who has a degree in science, does he also only have "a little knowlegde of science" compared to you? He's an atheist.

Besides, your source is a lying deceptive moron: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COMc4d4sHwg[/quote]

You must work in construction, because that was a demolition.

Reply January 29, 2013 - edited
ReLaX

[quote=ibrahim65432]~~~~~~~~~~~~The Maker~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

If a new object or a machine, which no one in the world has ever seen or heard of before, is shown to an atheist or any person and then a question is asked, " Who is the first person who will be able to provide details of the mechanism of this unknown object? After little bit of thinking, he will reply, 'the creator of that object.' Some may say 'the producer' while others may say 'the manufacturer.' What ever answer the person gives, keep it in your mind, the answer will always be either the creator, the producer, the manufacturer or some what of the same meaning, i.e. the person who has made it or created it. Don't grapple with words, whatever answer he gives, the meaning will be same, therefore accept it. -------BY Dr. Zakir Naik SOURCE: http://www.islam101.com/religions/provingGodExists.htm[/quote]

That very much depends upon what the hell he's showing. If it's an object like a rock, then the answer would be "the first team of scientists to properly examine it". To say anything about it's "manufacturer" or "producer" -- You would have to assume such exists, that would have to be justified, and isn't with this lack of information.

[quote=ibrahim65432]~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Math Analysis(Theory of Probability)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

In mathematics there is a theory known as 'Theory of Probability'. If you have two options, out of which one is right, and one is wrong, the chances that you will chose the right one is half, i.e. one out of the two will be correct. You have 50% chances of being correct. Similarly if you toss a coin the chances that your guess will be correct is 50% (1 out of 2) i.e. 1/2. If you toss a coin the second time, the chances that you will be correct in the second toss is again 50% i.e. half. But the chances that you will be correct in both the tosses is half multiplied by half (1/2 x 1/2) which is equal to 1/4 i.e. 50% of 50% which is equal to 25%. If you toss a coin the third time, chances that you will be correct all three times is (1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2) that is 1/8 or 50% of 50% of 50% that is 12½%.

A dice has got six sides. If you throw a dice and guess any number between 1 to 6, the chances that your guess will be correct is 1/6. If you throw the dice the second time, the chances that your guess will be correct in both the throws is (1/6 x 1/6) which is equal to 1/36. If you throw the dice the third time, the chances that all your three guesses are correct is (1/6 x 1/6 x 1/6) is equal to 1/216 that is less than 0.5 %[/quote]

Assuming everything is fair/unbiased.

[quote=ibrahim65432]Let us apply this theory of probability to the Qur'an, and assume that a person has guessed all the information that is mentioned in the Qur'an which was unknown at that time. Let us discuss the probability of all the guesses being simultaneously correct.

At the time when the Qur'an was revealed, people thought the world was flat, there are several other options for the shape of the earth. It could be triangular, it could be quadrangular, pentagonal, hexagonal, heptagonal, octagonal, spherical, etc. Lets assume there are about 30 different options for the shape of the earth. The Qur'an rightly says it is spherical, if it was a guess the chances of the guess being correct is 1/30.[/quote]

The earth was already believed to be a sphere(which it isn't) far earlier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_Earth#Antiquity) and calculated within quite an impressive accuracy at 200 BC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_Earth#Hellenistic_era). Now, when was the Qu'ran written? 800 years later? 600 AD or something?

But since the earth isn't actually spherical, we can say that the Qu'ran was wrong here, right? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_of_the_Earth)

[quote=ibrahim65432]The light of the moon can be its own light or a reflected light. The Qur'an rightly says it is a reflected light. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/2 and the probability that both the guesses i.e the earth is spherical and the light of the moon is reflected light is 1/30 x 1/2 = 1/60.[/quote]

Nope, this would be accurate if you had a blind person guess who had never heard about how the universe works. Unfortunately you have a world where you can see the moon being half lighted, or only slightly lighted (http://www.planetsforkids.org/upload/-moon-a.jpg) unlike the sun which definitely produces its own light. If they could not figure that much out, they would have been morons. If they could, they would have common sense, but that wouldn't mean they were inspired.

[quote=ibrahim65432]Further, the Qur'an also mentions every living thing is made of water. Every living thing can be made up of either wood, stone, copper, aluminum, steel, silver, gold, oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, oil, water, cement, concrete, etc. The options are say about 10,000. The Qur'an rightly says that everything is made up of water. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/10,000 and the probability of all the three guesses i.e. the earth is spherical, light of moon is reflected light and everything is created from water being correct is 1/30 x 1/2 x 1/10,000 = 1/60,000 which is equal to about .0017%.[/quote]

We also consist of other atoms than Hydrogen and Oxygen, which means we're not completely made of water compounds nor is all the water compounds in us found as water. So to say "every living thing is made of x" and that merely means "every little living thing has a portion of x within it" seems to open a lot of possibilities. Suddenly, the 10,000 possibilities doesn't only exists as "false" answers, but as correct answers too as we are composed of thousands if not millions of different components and their sub-parts. So to say 1/10,000 is wrong, and taking it as true is highly questionably.

[quote=ibrahim65432]The Qur'an speaks about hundreds of things that were not known to men at the time of its revelation. Only in three options the result is .0017%. I leave it upto you, to work out the probability if all the hundreds of the unknown facts were guesses, the chances of all of them being correct guesses simultaneously and there being not a single wrong guess. It is beyond human capacity to make all correct guesses without a single mistake, which itself is sufficient to prove to a logical person that the origin of the Qur'an is Divine. ---BY Dr. Zakir Naik SOURCE: http://www.islam101.com/religions/provingGodExists.htm[/quote]

The Qu'ran is a big book of many crazy sentences which can be interpreted in many many ways. Take a look at this clip at 6:00 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4trHH6AuZ0

Here's what happens, some muslims tries to debate an embryologists, which they haven't been smart enough to check that he was first, and made a big mistake. They claimed that the Qu'ran said that in embryology, first the bones develop, then the flesh and then the muscles. The embryologist then inform them that he's and embryologist and that what they said was contrary to our scientific understanding of development. These structures form simultaneously, and the muslims turn around and say "Even if that's the case, the Qu'ran is still right.. blablabla". So, you don't have 1 sentence with 1 meaning which might be right or wrong. You have a book with thousands of statements which can be interpreted in several ways to match many things. This makes the book non-specific and cannot be taken as some kind of divine revelation.

[quote=ibrahim65432]~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Sum Up~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The only logical answer to the question as to who could have mentioned all these scientific facts 1400 years ago before they were discovered, is exactly the same answer initially given by the atheist or any person, to the question who will be the first person who will be able to tell the mechanism of the unknown object. It is the 'CREATOR', the producer, the Manufacturer of the whole universe and its contents. In the English language He is 'God', or more appropriate in the Arabic language, 'ALLAH'.
----BY Dr. Zakir Naik SOURCE: http://www.islam101.com/religions/provingGodExists.htm[/quote]

As we can see, they were bollocks.

[quote=ibrahim65432]~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~What I Want to Say~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

So basically we knew of the thing in which the textbook has said that a certain scientist or whatever from somewhere has discovered it. But instead the people that believed in the religion of Islam have already known well before them. Also the Atheism started not too long ago I believe and before then, there were many scientists that are believing in God who was famous of discovering something new. As Francis said, "A little knowledge of science makes man an atheist, but an in-depth study of science makes him a believer in God." The people today that call themselves Atheist simply not knowing many things. Just by a well-known scientist who are an Atheist, people throw away their religion. In history there have been many wars. And the side in which believed in their religion the strongest wins. This is not on whoever is stronger or not, it is how much they can fight for what they believe in.

Source used: http://www.islam101.com/religions/provingGodExists.htm[/quote]

You seemingly don't know anything, and I'd be willing to talk to any muslim friend you have and I'll bet you that I'll know more science than the far majority of them.

Or how about our always lovely @Dimo who has a degree in science, does he also only have "a little knowlegde of science" compared to you? He's an atheist.

Besides, your source is a lying deceptive moron: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COMc4d4sHwg

Reply January 29, 2013 - edited
shanik

Remember that Francis Bacon lived in the XVI-XVII centuries,almost everyone was religious at the U.K at this time and his thoughts cannot apply to today. Society evolved,we discovered more things,etc...
Same for Lincoln who lived at the XIX'th century. He doesn't know that we discovered after his death.

God(s) and myths in all culture was created to explain the unknown.
After all doesn't Zeus(Dat badass Bonobo-like who rap** women) has as much credibility as the Christian god?
Sure,we don't get ban hammer'd for not offering to Zeus but god(s) does nothing too so...
As we discovered more and more things,found a scientific explanation for more and more,our need for a mystic explanation reduced.

Oh and I personnaly think that quotes from someone who lived a loooooooong time ago doesn't harbor the truth.
Here's an exemple:
"All religions are founded on the fear of the many and the cleverness of the few."-Stendhal,a pretty famous French writer
Is this quote enough proof that god(s) doesn't exist?I believe you would say no and I would follow ya there.

Reply January 29, 2013 - edited
ReLaX

[quote=dimo]Problem is that there is not a single original piece of thought in that post, instead it's a string of poorly made arguments copied and pasted from various sources on the net. Who has time or patience to read that?[/quote]

Me, and I'll read and respond later when I've taken a nap ;P

Reply January 29, 2013 - edited
Boomdingy

ha ha you must hate /r/athiesm

Reply January 29, 2013 - edited
airforce1

You cannot prove god(s) exist. By their very nature, the are beyond human understanding and belief in their existence is an act of faith.

Get off your self righteous high horse and stop telling people what to believe. Your opinion is not any better that someone else and your need to convert others to your way of thinking indicates an underlying belief in your own inadequacy.

Reply January 29, 2013 - edited
Singuy

[quote=BlueBlueBandit]Calm down children, we all know that i'm better than every single one of you.[/quote]

down Calm children, better all know we than that single you one of every single i'm

Reply January 29, 2013 - edited
shanik

[quote=TrueAtheist]People never thought the world was flat, that is a myth. Mathematicians dating back to Ancient Egypt knew the Earth was spherical.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_Flat_Earth

Regarding the light of the moon example, you act like there was some dominating discourse at the time that said the moon produces it's own light, that's just inaccurate and false.

Everything being made out of water isn't an idea exclusive to the Qu'ran.. Early philosophers talked a lot about that as well.

"Atheism started not too long ago" completely false statement, disbelief in deities has been around for thousands of years.

Everything you said is pretty much inaccurate or flat out wrong.[/quote]

This.

And while we're composed around 70% of water,there are other organics atoms like carbon,etc... which are essential.
Plus,if a new item came on earth,for exemple a stick of wood,we would examine it,study it and then found out that it grew from the tree thanks to development genes.
Why are there trees?Mutations,natural selection and luck. Mutations are really based on luck b

Reply January 29, 2013 - edited
Alcides

I think the biggest cause of "Atheists" are ridiculous religious people. Considering Christians predominantly have formed a monopoly on the "God" topic, and historically Christians have been known to act a fool, it's easier for one to shun the idea of a/multiple God(s). I personally believe in some form of higher power than what is present on Earth, but I don't subscribe to any organized religion & claim that books written by regular human beings are infallible.

Reply January 29, 2013 - edited
achyif

what makes a person atheist?
When they annoying tell everyone that they are atheist.

Reply January 29, 2013 - edited
dimo

[quote=BlueBlueBandit]Let me point out that Basilmarket is composed of 12 year old idiots. So a majority of them won't bother reading this, instead they'll just start a religion war.[/quote]

Problem is that there is not a single original piece of thought in that post, instead it's a string of poorly made arguments copied and pasted from various sources on the net. Who has time or patience to read that?

Reply January 29, 2013 - edited
TrueAtheist

People never thought the world was flat, that is a myth. Mathematicians dating back to Ancient Egypt knew the Earth was spherical.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_Flat_Earth

Regarding the light of the moon example, you act like there was some dominating discourse at the time that said the moon produces it's own light, that's just inaccurate and false.

Everything being made out of water isn't an idea exclusive to the Qu'ran.. Early philosophers talked a lot about that as well.

"Atheism started not too long ago" completely false statement, disbelief in deities has been around for thousands of years.

Everything you said is pretty much inaccurate or flat out wrong.

Reply January 29, 2013 - edited
fun2killu

The concept of God is a philosophical question, not a scientific one.

Reply January 29, 2013 - edited
Barquifa

posting this on basilmarket...what were you thinking?

Reply January 29, 2013 - edited
Deciduous

this is way too much for me to even bother reading rn but let me just say as a spiritual agnostic (? idk man)
reading about the origins of the earth, species, and specifically human origins has lead me to believe we're either supremely lucky, a total fluke, or some dumbass deity among the many wanted us to exist.

Reply January 29, 2013 - edited
BlueBlueBandit

[quote=Dendrology]I see how it is[/quote]

[quote=mikealSin]Assumptions 101.[/quote]

[quote=Pope]This kid is one of them. Talking like a badass.[/quote]

[quote=Assumptions]@BlueBlueBandit Did you read it?

"Hurr durr, I'm so cool, I know that basilers are stupid"[/quote]

Calm down children, we all know that i'm better than every single one of you.

Reply January 29, 2013 - edited
Nolen

http://atheism.about.com/

Reply January 29, 2013 - edited
HelloMyCuties

You are an atheist, out of your own belief and you choose not to disregard he belief there are god(s). I have summarized your post, you're welcome.

Reply January 29, 2013 - edited
crazybass

How bout using contemporary ideas and quotes and then we'll talk?

Reply January 29, 2013 - edited
ExpiredMilk

What is god?

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