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How should I scroll my shield?

I've potentialed my clean last UW warrior shield, and it's now 3 lined.
Here's what I was planning to do:
Scroll with 3-4 70% shield atk scrolls (please don't blow up T.T), then chaos and hopefully I'll end up with around 9-11 atk.
Cube.
Scroll with 60% shield atk scrolls in the future as I slowly accumulate money.
Is this a good idea, or is the shield valuable enough that it isn't worth trying for that atk bonus?

November 25, 2010

14 Comments • Newest first

LordHybras

I scrolled it...it didn't explode, but didn't turn out too well.
70% fail
70% fail
70% pass
70% pass
chaos (+1)
chaos (+1)
chaos fail
enhance (+0)
Now it's 6 atk, 13 str, 7 dex
oh well. I shouldn't have expected better.

Reply November 26, 2010
ronny278

[quote=ShMaiz3R]Alright, it's up to you about what to do but I will leave some facts here that might help you decide what scroll to use.

First, 70%s;

- 70% chance to work, 30% chance to fail.
- 15% chance to blow up per scroll.

Second, 30%s;

- 30% chance to work, 70% chance to fail.
- 35% chance to blow up per scroll.

Third, Chaos;

- 60% chance to work, 40% chance to fail.
- 10.8% chance to get better stats than a 70% per scroll. (3 or 4 or 5 ATK)
- 18% chance to get negative stats per scroll. (-1, -2, -3, -4, -5)
- 3.6% chance to get the same stats as 70% per scroll. (2 ATK)
- 3.6% chance to get nothing per scroll. (0 ATK)

P.S. You may want to check my basil ID to take a look at my previous post in another thread regarding shields scrolling.[/quote]

Ahh, some good %s there =). That should help you decide, but you'll need to use atleast 1 70/30 before you chaos.

Reply November 25, 2010
ShMaiz3R

Alright, it's up to you about what to do but I will leave some facts here that might help you decide what scroll to use.

First, 70%s;

- 70% chance to work, 30% chance to fail.
- 15% chance to blow up per scroll.

Second, 30%s;

- 30% chance to work, 70% chance to fail.
- 35% chance to blow up per scroll.

Third, Chaos;

- 60% chance to work, 40% chance to fail.
- 10.8% chance to get better stats than a 70% per scroll. (3 or 4 or 5 ATK)
- 18% chance to get negative stats per scroll. (-1, -2, -3, -4, -5)
- 3.6% chance to get the same stats as 70% per scroll. (2 ATK)
- 3.6% chance to get nothing per scroll. (0 ATK)

P.S. You may want to check my basil ID to take a look at my previous post in another thread regarding shields scrolling.

Reply November 25, 2010
ronny278

[quote=LordHybras]You told me not to use a 70% on an atk shield. I have no atk shield; I'm trying to make one.[/quote]

I said in the future, use a 90% adv potential scroll after you scroll it (if you read my first post as well). And using 3 70% scrolls is more risky than using one 90% adv pot...

Reply November 25, 2010 - edited
blackie8

[quote=LordHybras]So you're just 70%ing once, then chaosing forever?[/quote]

Depends on how the chaoses work. When they turn out good, Ima 60% + Vega

Reply November 25, 2010 - edited
lilseventeen

I was wondering the same thing. I have a clean 8%luk maple thief shield.
I just decided to accumulate money slowly for 12 60% shield atts, wait for vegas, and try my luck.

Reply November 25, 2010 - edited
LordHybras

[quote=blackie8]What I'm doing:
Get a 3 lined Last UWG Warrior Shield/VIP
Then a 70% on it, then chaos.
I had bad experiences with 70%'s ....
Had a 3 lined Last Warrior Shield, then a 70%.. It worked! So another 70 on it ... BOOM[/quote]

So you're just 70%ing once, then chaosing forever?

Reply November 25, 2010 - edited
blackie8

What I'm doing:
Get a 3 lined Last UWG Warrior Shield/VIP
Then a 70% on it, then chaos.
I had bad experiences with 70%'s ....
Had a 3 lined Last Warrior Shield, then a 70%.. It worked! So another 70 on it ... BOOM

Reply November 25, 2010 - edited
LordHybras

[quote=ronny278]Read what I said, I was advising you not to pot scroll before you normal scroll in the future.

And I would 30% first scroll, then 70% 2 more, then 60% rest. But it's a high chance of failing/blowing with first 3 scrolls.[/quote]

You told me not to use a 70% on an atk shield. I have no atk shield; I'm trying to make one.

Reply November 25, 2010 - edited
ronny278

Read what I said, I was advising you not to pot scroll before you normal scroll in the future.

And I would 30% first scroll, then 70% 2 more, then 60% rest. But it's a high chance of failing/blowing with first 3 scrolls.

Reply November 25, 2010 - edited
LordHybras

Jesus christ freaking [b]READ[/b] what I write before you comment.
@ivegonenuts: [i]Yes[/i], potential scrolls blow up regardless of failing or passing. If a potential scroll has a 70% chance of passing, then it has a 30% chance of blowing up. I'm saying that a 70% shield atk scroll will blow up with a lower probability because it only has a 50% chance to blow up [i]if the scroll fails[/i]. Ok?
@ronny278: I haven't [i]scrolled[/i] it yet, it's [b]clean[/b]. I'm asking [i]how[/i] I should scroll it for atk, not whether I should use a 70% or a 90% potential scroll; that part is done. Ok?
Now, I'm hoping anyone else who posts will have the common sense to answer the question I posed. Thank you.

Reply November 25, 2010 - edited
ronny278

I wouldn't use a 70% potential on an attack shield LOL, use a 90%

Reply November 25, 2010 - edited
LordHybras

I didn't want to end up with a 2 line shield, and shield atk scrolls are way more expensive than potential scrolls.
Plus, a 70% has a 0.30*0.50 = 15% chance of blowing up.
A 70% potential scroll has a 30% chance of blowing up. What are you talking about? ._.
Regardless, I have the potential, but know I'd like to know the best bang for my buck.

Reply November 25, 2010 - edited
ronny278

Stats on 3 lined, and I would have potted after scrolling because it may blow up (higher chance blowing with scrolling than pot).

Reply November 25, 2010 - edited