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Do Battle Mages get a mount?

Yeah, do they?

December 21, 2010

34 Comments • Newest first

tailz2k6

[quote=ToughCookie]I would like to know too. Sorry if it's not as fast as tele but what's more fun than riding a large mammal/reptile/mystical beast? Nothing.[/quote]

Flash Jump

Reply January 2, 2011
ArrowWolf95

[quote=plain88]I guess we could get the Hyena mount (never drops) from Hoblin PQ...[/quote]

I got the mount but how do I get the damm skill for the mount.

Reply January 2, 2011
Noirel

[quote=raipikachu]They ride Bishops.[/quote]
Oh wow. The mental image in my brain... IMAGINE IF THEY CAN BUFF TOGETHER.

I'm glad this was cleared up, because some guy was claiming he had a mount of his BaM and I was like "I didn't get a mount yet what am I missing?"

Reply December 29, 2010
Plusle4eva

@Dehavilland: LMAO eden o.o! But but but YA already covers the speed aspect, and and and tele covers the rest D:! THEY DON'T NEED HASTE!

OT: Nope, they don't get one.

Reply December 29, 2010
gtbROX

@johny2toes: I can be. =]
I guess all I really needed to post was the description of the capture skill in which nexon states that jaguars are mounts. gg to those who said otherwise.

Reply December 29, 2010
Gaosaurusx3

@johny2toes: iunno that hyena mount i was told by some guildies, but it's like a super rare drop and it's perm. please correct me if i'm wrong so i can feed the correct info on those that ask me xP

Reply December 29, 2010
Accelerator

i luv how things got off topic for almost the whole 2nd page and half of 3rd
OT: lvl 95 BaM here no mounts yet D=

Reply December 29, 2010
johny2toes

@gtbROX ... Dude are you like some sort of novelist? lmfao that was the longest thing I've ever read on this site and I'm impressed.

@Gaosaurusx3 Although while that's true there isn't actually a Hyena mount in HobPQ.
The actual Hyena was never added to Hob PQ in KMS/GMS so the only thing we can 'obtain' is the saddle.
Unless Nexon changed that in a recent patch (Which I think I would of noticed by now) then the only mounts we can get are the gach ones.

Reply December 29, 2010
Gaosaurusx3

the only mount we'd ever get are those from gach or the hoblin pq. other than that no i'm 100% sure we don't get mounts. if we did i'd like it to be like that rue muncher thingy

Reply December 29, 2010
xDracius

Nope.

Yellow Aura - +20% speed
Advanced Yellow Aura - +40% speed

All we're missing is jump.

Reply December 29, 2010
gtbROX

[quote=ashje]@gtbROX: Please note that I stated that speed and jump were the exceptions to my point. Try to read my posts properly before replying. Also, where is the proof that this "Jaguar equip" is stored in the skill, or is that just a myth you're pulling out of your *** based on your twisted form of logic? Last time I checked, mounts were actual equips, not summons to be stored in skills. You're proving my point by stating that Wild Hunters don't actually equip the Jaguar. Thanks for that.[/quote]

This is an example of asinine logic. Anyone who has made a WH and gotten the jaguar [b]mount[/b] can tell you that it follows your definition of a mount because you do in fact catch it, but this time with a skill that WH's gain. Ever see random monsters with a glowing blue "i" on the top of their head roaming around? That's the effect of a WH catching a monster then releasing it. This same capture skill is used to catch the jaguar which runs around in its own map. When you catch a monster it goes into your skill which is why you don't need a mount equip for it. The little "i" above monsters that a wh releases signifies that it's controlling the monster, and same with the jaguar.

[b]Jaguar Rider[/b]
Summons a [b]tamed Jaguar[/b] for [b]you to ride[/b]. When mounted, your Max HP, Critical Rate, Avoidability, and [b]Movement Speed[/b] increases.
[url=http://global.hidden-street.net/search_finder/jaguar]Cited[/url]-I used hiddenstreet just out of habit but if you look up basil's it should be the same.

[b]Monster Rider[/b]
[b]Enables one to ride[/b] on a [b]tamed monster[/b] and use it as a [b]method of transportation[/b].
[url=http://global.hidden-street.net/character/skill/monster-rider]Cited[/url]

If you compare the 2 descriptions they basically mean the same thing. And I've made over 10 characters all with mounts, I've had the mimiana mount, the shinjou mount, the wolf mount, and what not, the only mounts I haven't had yet are the dragon mount and high level aran mounts but I can tell you they all work in the same fashion, and the jaguar mount is basically a mount with extra perks.

From what I gather of your posts in this thread, you'll most likely argue the idiotic points like "omg they didnt say that monster rider increases speed but they do for jaguar, NOT MOUNT! RAGEEE QQQQQ." To that, I'd say, nexon frequently -and has been known to do this- forgets to mention certain things about skills that maplers and extracters end up finding out on their own by looking at the ap tab. This case is no different, and if you argue that it is, it really does explain your intelligence level or lack thereof. When I have my ap tab open on my bishop, it says 123 speed and 102 jump, but when I click my mount on it says 140 speed and 120 jump, the jaguar mount is no different on my wh except the jaguar gives more speed and no jump. Also, I talked about the mount animation on rope which you conveniently ignored. Nexon tends to be lazy and use one skill as the basis of another. That's why sometimes one class' skill might have similar animations/casting rates as another skill's; it's because nexon made their animation the same, who's to say nexon doesn't have the same categories for different skills? The fact that when you dismount/remount on rope with any type of mount and it casts the same animation (minor differences may occur) at the same length of time demonstrates that a jaguar is just as much a mount.

Just look at this whole thread, no one agrees with you and you can say that I am "pulling a myth out of my ***" when I say that the jaguar is contained within a skill, but anyone who has made a wh past lv 30 can tell you he/she had to actually use another skill to capture a jaguar. Other mounts use potions or other items to do such a thing which is why the mount would appear as an item in the equips tab of your inventory but when you actually use a skill to [url=http://global.hidden-street.net/character/skill/capture]capture[/url] the jaguar it is held within the skill.

And here is my final piece of evidence that completely blows away your argument:

[b]Capture[/b]
Allows you to capture a monster after its HP falls below 50%.
Monsters captured in the Jaguar habitat can be used as [b]mounts[/b].
Cooldown: 10 sec

The cited url is in the bolded "capture."

Edit:
@johny2toes: Credits goes to you on the url for "capture," since I didn't even think to look up the description for it until I saw your post about the definition of mount, so thanks.

Reply December 28, 2010 - edited
ashje

@johny2toes: Maybe you should look at the definition of "mount" in the context of the game we're discussing. I'm not talking about the word mount outside of it's meaning in MapleStory, I'm talking about what a mount is /inside/ of MapleStory, that is; an equip category. Nowhere in the skill's description does it mention the word mount and nowhere in your Equip window do you literally equip the Jaguar, therefore it is NOT a mount. Mounts are equips that work in conjunction with saddle equips. If the Jaguar does not utilise either of these, then it's not a mount. My God, this is like trying to explain molecular physics to a mule.

@ytrewq1248: You just proved my point by stating you can do things on a Jaguar that you can't do on a mount. I'm not "buthurt", I'm trying to accomplish the impossible feat of bringing understanding to the greatly stubborn side of the Basil community.

@iLluZioN: Thank you. You people should listen to iLluZioN, he understands the concept of a mount.

Reply December 28, 2010 - edited
johny2toes

@iLluZioN: Wild Hunter's don't require a quest either, they have a choice whether or not to get a jaguar.
You could easily make a lv 200 Wild Hunter without a Jaguar at all.
Ricochet is already better then pretty much every Jaguar based atk.
So if neither require a quest what's the difference?
You have to spend NX to get the 1day~1year mounts.
All you have to do is job advance to get a Jaguar.

Reply December 28, 2010 - edited
johny2toes

@iLluZioN: It's not a conventional one. However neither are the ones you get from Gach that last 1 day ~ a year yet people still consider those "mounts"
There is no difference.

@ytrewq1248 I don't have a Wild Hunter lol. I'm just standing by the fact that a Jaguar is a mount regardless what anyone says.

Reply December 28, 2010 - edited
toastyc12

Even if you get the Hyena mount, Battlemages still dont get the Monster Rider skill.

Reply December 28, 2010 - edited
ytrewq1248

[quote=ashje]@johny2toes: You keep using the same old argument, but that's merely one point against my six. Just because you must catch a Jaguar to use the skill, does not make it a mount. Nowhere in the skill's description does it say mount. Also, YOU DON'T REQUIRE A SADDLE TO RIDE IT. Mounts require saddles, therefore the Jaguar is NOT a mount. You can't use pots, attacks or buffs while riding a mount, yet you can use all three of these on a Jaguar. The only additions in stats that mounts are supposed to give are additions in speed/jump. According to [url=http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStory-Wild-Hunter-1-Skills.html#Jaguar-Ride]Basil's description of the Jaguar Rider Skill[/url], the Jaguar also gives a boost in Evade <<< Mounts don't do that. I'm also going to draw your attention to the fact that the word "mount" does not once appear in that description. Furthermore, in MapleStory a mount is an Equip category. You don't actually equip a Jaguar. In short, just because you capture it, doesn't mean it's a mount. It's more like an appearance altering buff (Transform, Eagle Eye, etc.) than a mount.

Also, at what point did I mention temporary mounts and my opinion of them? Don't make half-witted assumptions based on no evidence at all.

@gtbROX: Please note that I stated that speed and jump were the exceptions to my point. Try to read my posts properly before replying. Also, where is the proof that this "Jaguar equip" is stored in the skill, or is that just a myth you're pulling out of your *** based on your twisted form of logic? Last time I checked, mounts were actual equips, not summons to be stored in skills. You're proving my point by stating that Wild Hunters don't actually equip the Jaguar. Thanks for that.[/quote]

Someones buthurt,. Wild hunters get a mount. Their mount is just better then ours, because they can attack off it and use speed equips on it.

Reply December 28, 2010 - edited
johny2toes

@ashje: As gtbROX said.. maybe you should look at the definition of 'mount'
It's something you ride meaning Jaguar is a mount.
Just because you don't have to do a quest to obtain a saddle and Monster Rider skill doesn't excuse the point that it is a mount.

Reply December 28, 2010 - edited
ashje

@Photastic: When I say Mount, I'm addressing the equip category Mount not the Monster Rider skill.

Reply December 28, 2010 - edited
ashje

@johny2toes: You keep using the same old argument, but that's merely one point against my six. Just because you must catch a Jaguar to use the skill, does not make it a mount. Nowhere in the skill's description does it say mount. Also, YOU DON'T REQUIRE A SADDLE TO RIDE IT. Mounts require saddles, therefore the Jaguar is NOT a mount. You can't use pots, attacks or buffs while riding a mount, yet you can use all three of these on a Jaguar. The only additions in stats that mounts are supposed to give are additions in speed/jump. According to [url=http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStory-Wild-Hunter-1-Skills.html#Jaguar-Ride]Basil's description of the Jaguar Rider Skill[/url], the Jaguar also gives a boost in Evade <<< Mounts don't do that. I'm also going to draw your attention to the fact that the word "mount" does not once appear in that description. Furthermore, in MapleStory a mount is an Equip category. You don't actually equip a Jaguar. In short, just because you capture it, doesn't mean it's a mount. It's more like an appearance altering buff (Transform, Eagle Eye, etc.) than a mount.

Also, at what point did I mention temporary mounts and my opinion of them? Don't make half-witted assumptions based on no evidence at all.

@gtbROX: Please note that I stated that speed and jump were the exceptions to my point. Try to read my posts properly before replying. Also, where is the proof that this "Jaguar equip" is stored in the skill, or is that just a myth you're pulling out of your *** based on your twisted form of logic? Last time I checked, mounts were actual equips, not summons to be stored in skills. You're proving my point by stating that Wild Hunters don't actually equip the Jaguar. Thanks for that.

Reply December 28, 2010 - edited
gtbROX

[quote=ashje]@johny2toes: Clearly you don't understand the concept of a mount. At no point does in its description does it mention the word mount, therefore, it's not a mount. It's merely a skill used to increase stats, something a mount does not do (with the exception of speed/jump). It's more a buff than anything else, it can't be considered a mount because you can utilise skills, attacks and pots while riding it. Furthermore, you don't require a saddle to ride it. So let's match my six points against your one and see who fares better, shall we?

@gtbROX: Read what I wrote above.[/quote]

Speed/jump are both stats, last time I checked I had to scroll for speed/jump on my shoes and maker them in. Also, the meaning of a mount is something that a character can ride on, and when you said mount earler, I think you meant the literal equip that most characters put on to be able to use the mount skill. WH's have a skill that captures a jaguar and then a separate skill that unleashes it. Technically you dont need the mount because, the equip form of it is a monster in your equip tab, but for WH's its within the skill itself since they already capture it with another skill.

Reply December 28, 2010 - edited
johny2toes

@ashje: Then do us all a favor.. Make a Wild Hunter and right at Lv 10 as you Job Advance put a point in rider and try to use it without catching a Jaguar. If it was just 'a skill' you wouldn't have a need to catch a jaguar.
It is a mount, you can't use the skill without something to ride on.
You have to catch the Jaguar in order to ride on top of it (also another point that makes it a mount)

For all this effort I'm guessing you're going to say those "1 day - 1 week - 1 months" mounts aren't mounts either right? They don't require Monster Rider but they are still a mount.
If you ride on top of it it's a mount regardless if you're using the monster skill it's self Jaguar Rider or Monster Rider.

Reply December 28, 2010 - edited
ashje

@johny2toes: Clearly you don't understand the concept of a mount. At no point does in its description does it mention the word mount, therefore, it's not a mount. It's merely a skill used to increase stats, something a mount does not do (with the exception of speed/jump). It's more a buff than anything else, it can't be considered a mount because you can utilise skills, attacks and pots while riding it. Furthermore, you don't require a saddle to ride it. So let's match my six points against your one and see who fares better, shall we?

@gtbROX: Read what I wrote above.

Reply December 28, 2010 - edited
gtbROX

[quote=ashje]@Siddysidsid: Are you blind? Have you not noticed that the jaguars are actually a skill, not a mount? O_O[/quote]

Mount is also a skill...=.=
And when you're on a rope and dismount/remount it's the same animation even with the jaguar as with any other mount.

Reply December 28, 2010 - edited
johny2toes

@ashje Clearly you don't realize the aspect of a Jaguar.
It IS a mount 'cause you still have to catch it.
Jaguar Rider = Exactly the same as monster rider.
You still have to catch the Jaguar which is what makes it a mount.

Reply December 28, 2010 - edited
ashje

@Siddysidsid: Are you blind? Have you not noticed that the jaguars are actually a skill, not a mount? O_O

Reply December 28, 2010 - edited
ashje

@DanceMacabre: None of the Resistance get mounts.

Reply December 28, 2010 - edited
gtbROX

I like how basilers either don't know how to read or don't know how to answer a simple question. The TS asked "do BaMs get a mount?" not "do BaMs need a mount"...
And to answer the TS's question, I'm lv 84 and I have not gotten a mount quest which means that for now we don't get a mount I guess.

@JustSoFly: exactly.

Reply December 28, 2010 - edited
justsofly

You guys that are saying how mages have teleport and "oh who needs a stupid mount" are missing the point that the TS doesn't need it, he could just possibly want it for the sake of having it.

You're all assuming that he wants the mount for faster-traveling needs, but really what if someone just wants it for looks?

If someone wants a mount then they will get it like me, I dropped a total of 100mil for all 3 stages of my evan saddles and I don't even use it often. I just wanted it because I wanted to mount on my dragon :].

OT: I don't think they have one.

Reply December 28, 2010 - edited
plain88

I guess we could get the Hyena mount (never drops) from Hoblin PQ...

Reply December 28, 2010 - edited
josharowan

Even if they did why bother with it? Seriously do you want to drop 10-20 mil for a mount or use Teleport/Yellow Aura?

Reply December 28, 2010 - edited
GunDelHel

Yellow Aura + Tele, you'll be fine.

Reply December 23, 2010 - edited
DanceMacabre

[quote=asdfgh2004]Why do you need a mount ._. tele is much faster[/quote]

I didnt say I need a mount, just asked if we get one.

Reply December 21, 2010 - edited
benin3

nope

Reply December 21, 2010 - edited