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Kmst 1.2.010 Wild Hunter Nerf

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ModerateTrader Level 200 Bera Wild Hunter 4 Lavish Guild
I believe we are getting a PDR reduction, another bite chance reduction as well as various CD increases. I forgot if there's more...

What are your thoughts on this nerf?
Posted: June 2015 Permalink

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ModerateTrader Level 200 Bera Wild Hunter 4 Lavish Guild
I'm waiting for Max to translate and give more accurate information on this. I think most of us saw this coming No reals complaints[/quote]

That's true, I'm just waiting on the numbers now to see how much of a nerf we get
Jun 05 2015
Elufu Level 240 Scania Mercedes 4 Reconcile Guild
I'm going to withhold an in-depth analysis but purely looking at the another bite and %ID reduction change, please see numbers below. Further detail can be found: www.basilmarket.com/forum/2782310

**Average maintainable another bite stacks:** 2.65 -> 1.93 (The attack routine is very conservative, so in game if you are diligent with your jaguar skills and timing you might pull off a better number)
**Raw Damage%/s:** 26.7k%/s -> 24.5k%/s
**Against Empress** 4.7k%/s -> 4k%/s

Personally the number changes isn't as bad as what initial impressions are. Just build/fund what you have always been doing and you won't feel alot UNLESS you are capped.

**Hits/s** 32.04 hits/s with HAU -> 29.04hits/s

I'm assuming every hit counts for the high end players.. so yeah 3/s difference might be quite significant.
Jun 05 2015
Ginseng Level 174 Scania Night Lord
I'm going to withhold an in-depth analysis but purely looking at the another bite and %ID reduction change, please see numbers below. Further detail can be found: www.basilmarket.com/forum/2782310

**Average maintainable another bite stacks:** 2.65 -> 1.93 (The attack routine is very conservative, so in game if you are diligent with your jaguar skills and timing you might pull off a better number)
**Raw Damage%/s:** 26.7k%/s -> 24.5k%/s
**Against Empress** 4.7k%/s -> 4k%/s

Personally the number changes isn't as bad as what initial impressions are. Just build/fund what you have always been doing and you won't feel alot UNLESS you are capped.

**Hits/s** 31.04 hits/s with HAU -> 28.04hits/s

I'm assuming every hit counts for the high end players.. so yeah 3/s difference might be quite significant.[/quote]

Do you happen to know why there's such a big discrepancy between BM/WH clear times (let's say hellux/dorothy) when capping? Considering BM's have a little over 10 hits/sec over WH's.
Jun 05 2015
Elufu Level 240 Scania Mercedes 4 Reconcile Guild
@Ginseng: As in WH capping > BM capping?

I can only think of 3 reasonings. One is that I'm not taking into account something in my calculation thats actually happening in game, which is quite possible since I don't main either classes. Another branching from my first point is that BM's turret AFA trigger is not occuring as I suspect it is (or glitching). And.. the only other reason I can think of is that the BM is not actually capping on its AFA.
Jun 05 2015
SkylarCarte Level 133 Renegades Battle Mage 4
@Ginseng: As in WH capping > BM capping?

I can only think of 3 reasonings. One is that I'm not taking into account something in my calculation thats actually happening in game, which is quite possible since I don't main either classes. Another branching from my first point is that BM's turret AFA trigger is not occuring as I suspect it is (or glitching). And.. the only other reason I can think of is that the BM is not actually capping on its AFA.[/quote]

idk if turret is considered as summoning (it doesnt trigger DR though), but summoned creatures never trigger AFA
Jun 05 2015
AeroReborn Level 212 Windia Night Lord
idk if turret is considered as summoning (it doesnt trigger DR though), but summoned creatures never trigger AFA[/quote]

Turret is not considered a summon as far as I know, and afa does proc when turret is up.
Jun 05 2015
singsangsong Level 210 Windia Cannoneer 4
They still are top 3. Now you'll be sitting on 2 stacks mostly.
Jun 05 2015
HystericalBow Level 223 Khaini Bow Master
idk if turret is considered as summoning (it doesnt trigger DR though)[/quote]

Unfortunately it does trigger DR so it's not like a summon in that regard
Jun 05 2015

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