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getting into horntail?

After the recent patch, i finally obtained a pianus certificate and was wondering if anyone could give me a step by step breakdown on how i can get into horntail, how many people i'll need, etc. A link to a comprehensive guide would suffice as well, thanks in advance
(also if anyone knows how many power elixirs or ginger ales a 168 night lord would need to solo it that would be great)

December 1, 2012

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whiteforce18

@Fiercerain: thank you so much! I really had absolutely no clue how to do it.. haha time to get some people who haven't gotten their badge yet! again, thanks a ton, you really did help me out a lot

Reply December 1, 2012
Fiercerain

@whiteforce18: There are two main parts to HTPQ. When all 6 people enter the PQ and enter the main lobby... one person stays behind, and the remaining five pick up keys to enter the maze systems. The person who stays in the main lobby collects keys that drop from the tree of life (whatever it's called) and deposits the keys to the map NPC. The other five people go through a maze or something and as they clear it, they wait for the person in the lobby to deposit the key so the five can proceed with the maze. Once everyone goes through the maze, all 6 members regroup and continue with the next map where they kill monsters and retrieve more keys. For those who are completing the Squad badge quest, the kills will drop the badge pieces. Once everyone has had their fill of squad badge pieces plus the keys needed to move on, the pq is pretty much done. Y'all will spawn in the Cave of Life lobby near the HT expedition NPC to start the fight with HT.

Reply December 1, 2012 - edited
whiteforce18

[quote=Fiercerain]@IMkoreanMI: Yes, if in the future you are leading a HT expedition as captain and you want to bypass the HTPQ all together, you need to possess the Squad badge/medal/certificate thingie. You earn the Squad badge by turning in the three boss certificates (Zakum, Papulatus, and Pianus) and finding 3 different squad badge/marks during the HTPQ. Once you collect all 6 items, turn them in for the squad badge and you're good to go. [/quote]

quick question, what exactly do you have to do for HTPQ? I have wondered a lot, but never actually gotten around to attempting it, since when I went leader had a badge

Reply December 1, 2012 - edited
Fiercerain

@IMkoreanMI: I forgot to mention. If you are indeed doing the HTPQ... you'll need a party of 6. Fillers will not work. You need 6 people in a party to participate in the HTPQ.

Good luck! D:

Reply December 1, 2012 - edited
IMkoreanMI

[quote=Fiercerain]@IMkoreanMI: Yes, if in the future you are leading a HT expedition as captain and you want to bypass the HTPQ all together, you need to possess the Squad badge/medal/certificate thingie. You earn the Squad badge by turning in the three boss certificates (Zakum, Papulatus, and Pianus) and finding 3 different squad badge/marks during the HTPQ. Once you collect all 6 items, turn them in for the squad badge and you're good to go. [/quote]

Alright that pretty much clears up everything, thanks for the help!

Reply December 1, 2012 - edited
Fiercerain

@IMkoreanMI: Yes, if in the future you are leading a HT expedition as captain and you want to bypass the HTPQ all together, you need to possess the Squad badge/medal/certificate thingie. You earn the Squad badge by turning in the three boss certificates (Zakum, Papulatus, and Pianus) and finding 3 different squad badge/marks during the HTPQ. Once you collect all 6 items, turn them in for the squad badge and you're good to go.

Reply December 1, 2012 - edited
IMkoreanMI

[quote=Fiercerain]Here is a quick breakdown.

Either complete the HTPQ and retrieve the badges and turn in the badges + boss certificates to get the certificate to bypass HTPQ all together in the future should you lead an expedition, or have an exp. leader that already has the certificate to bypass.

The expedition needs 6 members enrolled in the HT exp. Fillers work here.

DO NOT turn in the quest materials for the Cornian potion until you're ready to run with your expedition.

Once you're inside the cave of life, there are three main stages to a HT fight (assuming you bypass the HTPQ).
1) Fight the left head of HT, and eliminate it (it casts seduce).
2) Fight the right head of HT, and eliminate it (it also casts seduce).
3) Fight HT itself. If you want to collect the stuff it drops you have to wait 30 minutes from the time it summons. So if it summons at 1:09 it won't drop stuff until the timer reads under 49:00 minutes.

Depending on how powerful your expedition, have the strongest attackers eliminate the legs and tail ASAP. Do not touch the tail, it has 20k~ touch dmg for most classes. Eliminate one of the arms, and leave the other arm completely alone and focus on destroying other parts of HT. Once one of the arms is taken out, hang around that general area, do not wander off to the other arm's range of aggro otherwise it may cast seduce. Once everything, but an arm is destroyed wait until the timer elapses 30 minutes from the time HT summoned and you're good to go. If you kill HT sooner, it will not drop anything.[/quote]

Thanks for the in depth guide! That's answered pretty much all of my uncertainties, although one quick clarification, I'll have to do the PQ once to get the badges, after which i can turn in the badges AND the boss certificates so that i'll never have to do the PQ again? My hope was that i wouldn't ever have to do the pq but i guess i'll have to do it once ._.

Reply December 1, 2012 - edited
Fiercerain

[quote=IMkoreanMI]After the recent patch, i finally obtained a pianus certificate and was wondering if anyone could give me a step by step breakdown on how i can get into horntail, how many people i'll need, etc. A link to a comprehensive guide would suffice as well, thanks in advance
(also if anyone knows how many power elixirs or ginger ales a 168 night lord would need to solo it that would be great)[/quote]

Here is a quick breakdown.

Either complete the HTPQ and retrieve the badges and turn in the badges + boss certificates to get the certificate to bypass HTPQ all together in the future should you lead an expedition, or have an exp. leader that already has the certificate to bypass.

The expedition needs 6 members enrolled in the HT exp. Fillers work here.

DO NOT turn in the quest materials for the Cornian potion until you're ready to run with your expedition.

Once you're inside the cave of life, there are three main stages to a HT fight (assuming you bypass the HTPQ).
1) Fight the left head of HT, and eliminate it (it casts seduce).
2) Fight the right head of HT, and eliminate it (it also casts seduce).
3) Fight HT itself. If you want to collect the stuff it drops you have to wait 30 minutes from the time it summons. So if it summons at 1:09 it won't drop stuff until the timer reads under 49:00 minutes.

Depending on how powerful your expedition, have the strongest attackers eliminate the legs and tail ASAP. Do not touch the tail, it has 20k~ touch dmg for most classes. Eliminate one of the arms, and leave the other arm completely alone and focus on destroying other parts of HT. Once one of the arms is taken out, hang around that general area, do not wander off to the other arm's range of aggro otherwise it may cast seduce. Once everything, but an arm is destroyed wait until the timer elapses 30 minutes from the time HT summoned and you're good to go. If you kill HT sooner, it will not drop anything.

Reply December 1, 2012 - edited
Chubsin

@IMkoreanMI: Yes. Only one member needs to have a badge, and that person doesn't even need to go on the run. He just has to be there to talk to the NPC.

Reply December 1, 2012 - edited
IMkoreanMI

[quote=Chubsin]@IMkoreanMI: You need six people in the expedition, though they don't have to go inside. I think you just flash the badge to the dragon and he lets you skip HTPQ.[/quote]

O_O so if i hypothetically had a party would he let my party skip alongside me?

Reply December 1, 2012 - edited
Chubsin

@IMkoreanMI: You need six people in the expedition, though they don't have to go inside. I think you just flash the badge to the dragon and he lets you skip HTPQ.

Reply December 1, 2012 - edited
IMkoreanMI

[quote=Chubsin]I went with two super strong guys who can kill it in 10 minutes and I still died because the summoning lagged me, as HT 1/1ed me, poisoned, and dropped rocks from the sky. Advice: Be in a clement position and be ready when you summon it.[/quote]

Yeah i expect to die a few times in my attempts, right now my biggest worry is how to get in, is it possible without 6 people or doing the pq or whatever since i have the badge o_O it's quite confusing

Reply December 1, 2012 - edited
Chubsin

I went with two super strong guys who can kill it in 10 minutes and I still died because the summoning lagged me, as HT 1/1ed me, poisoned, and dropped rocks from the sky. Advice: Be in a clement position and be ready when you summon it.

Reply December 1, 2012 - edited
IMkoreanMI

[quote=BadgerDontCare]How many pots you would need depends on how long it takes you to defeat HT by whatever means you intended to kill it by. If you plan on taking about an hour I'd say 400 Ginger Ales would suffice.[/quote]

Ahh alright that sounds like a fair amount, thanks! Anyone have any guides for getting in?

Reply December 1, 2012 - edited
BadgerDontCare

How many pots you would need depends on how long it takes you to defeat HT by whatever means you intended to kill it by. If you plan on taking about an hour I'd say 400 Ginger Ales would suffice.

Reply December 1, 2012 - edited