General

I'm hitting cap with lv 1 penombre so I believe it's unneeded. I'll be maxing it last, if at all.

[quote=Jvlaple]Prenombre is amazing in SH and at LHC when you are against the wall.
I don't find Tempest that useful for training because by the time it reaches its peak, the mobs are already dead.

I did Aria -> Expert -> Mem 4 -> Carte Noire -> Prenombre -> Mille.
Now working on MW because Tempest does its job at lv1.[/quote]

ive come to the same conclusion about penombre

[quote=Excilant]I corner LHC monsters in the corner and spam Penombre and my back against the wall. I also use it in Azwan, as it's very helpful for dealing consistent damage on monsters while moving at a fast pace. I find Penombre VERY useful in a lot of places as a matter of fact.[/quote]

I've found that to be slower than both mille and tempest (when all skills were at level 1)
the way penombre flings you around does not make it conducive for spamming, did i mention that it's SLOW?

[quote=andrewthepro]Don't Max Mille, it only adds +1% each level. It's a waste and you should Max it after penombre and tempest.[/quote]

At max Mille only adds 30%... but it adds 30% to 100%, which is adding a third of its damage. It's literally as big an increase as Priere d'Aria.

[quote=leafsasuke]The reason why it tell you to max Penombre is its good for mob and training but its recommend not to. Max Aria > Expert > Impeccable > Mille > MW > Carte Noir > Tempest > Pouvoir Emprunte > Pendombre[/quote]

why MW before Carte Noir? maxed carte noir allows FA to activate more frequently and thus increase DPM/DPS. MW will give a higher overall damage output but with such a high base crit rate to begin with, FA will prolly give more damage than maxing MW ._.

[quote=Applesnacks]You're at a point where you don't need a guide anymore.... Learn to take control of your own character and pick the skills you think is best.

If you don't think it's useful, go max Mille.[/quote]

For the record, I didnt blindly follow the guide at all. Even from the beginning, I maxed SEVERAL things differently than the guide said (notably, i maxed carte noir much earlier than it said. and im maxing maple warrior much later.) And merely read the guide as (the name implies <,< ) a GUIDE. Obviously I am going to be currious when the main guide appears to have a skill im maxing dead last listed as maxing relatively early.
Get off your high horse and quit telling me what to do when all I did was ask for people to explain to me a skill that I don't see a use for, thinking that maybe I misunderstood it.
[quote=leafsasuke]The reason why it tell you to max Penombre is its good for mob and training but its recommend not to. Max Aria > Expert > Impeccable > Mille > MW > Carte Noir > Tempest > Pouvoir Emprunte > Pendombre[/quote]
I did it my own way. A way that works for me.

You're at a point where you don't need a guide anymore.... Learn to take control of your own character and pick the skills you think is best.

If you don't think it's useful, go max Mille.

i decided to max Mille outright, and then max Tempest and Vol together.. saving penombre for last.
@Guy above this post: this was a thread to get information about skills, not to brag about how amazing you (think you) are.

well i maxed it today, and i use it constantly in bw5 (especially when its glitched) on the bottom platforms. just push monsters towards a side and hug the wall and press hold prenombre facing the monsters. usually, ur other party members will try to push it towards the wall, so the monsters wont get out of prenombre's reach (not that it matters, i usually kill the mobs before the get out of range, and my phantoms unfunded lol).

and im not sure, but i feel like im gonna be using prenombre more at stronghold since the map is small and the monster's kb is glitched over there (augilles will prob push them out of range really fast)

definitely not sold on maxing it before mille or tempest. its an interesting skill, but level 1 seems to do everything i need from a skill like that.

[quote=2ty15]Wha? I love Penombre! <3
I just hold down the key and I dance around a map everywhere.[/quote]

yeah its a fun skill to use.... Which is why i have ONE point in it. it has a pretty crappy hit box though, and its slow as hell.. the two reasons why i usually use mille, tempest or hurricane to train...
[quote=applebreaker]max carte noire.[/quote]
Carte Noir only goes up to 20,
[quote=etcox]1%x2x30 is a 60% increase o.O[/quote]
Per second
[quote=ho4show]i like penombre, and it is undeniably useful, but i use mille more at lhc. However lvl 1 is more than enough to 1hit any non boss mob (ToT mobs for ex.) however i do spam it at lhc when mobs are in a corner & even use the combo with rapier sometimes. however most the time i can't due to mobs not being in the corner or the awkward platforms at lhc.[/quote]
Yeah MeRoPe is a pretty cool combo.. but its so rare that a mob is set up to make it effective.. I usually just use mille or tempest because its much more direct and seems to kill much faster

i like penombre, and it is undeniably useful, but i use mille more at lhc. However lvl 1 is more than enough to 1hit any non boss mob (ToT mobs for ex.) however i do spam it at lhc when mobs are in a corner & even use the combo with rapier sometimes. however most the time i can't due to mobs not being in the corner or the awkward platforms at lhc.

Wha? I love Penombre! <3
I just hold down the key and I dance around a map everywhere.

[quote=andrewthepro]Don't Max Mille, it only adds +1% each level. It's a waste and you should Max it after penombre and tempest.[/quote]

1% in milis case is actually quite a significant jump though because it hits so fast and hard. thats +30% 2 times a second (+60% a second) when using it.. im still not seeing a point where penombre would be better at mobbing than mille

also, just for reference, I currently have:
30/30 Impeccable Memory
30/30 Priere d Aria
30/30 cane expert
20/20 Carte noir
and 1 in everything else

[quote=mrhob]penombre is a good mobbing skill and used to clear a map fast if used with your teleport. Think of it as a rush + rolling moon somesault + tornado spin for phantom[/quote]

it just seems like... mille and tempest do what penombre does much better (mobile mob skill, and heavy hitting mob skill respectively) its a cool skill and all, i just dont get what it does for me those other two dont, that i would need to max it before them.

penombre is a good mobbing skill and used to clear a map fast if used with your teleport. Think of it as a rush + rolling moon somesault + tornado spin for phantom

yea i put it to 6 after maxing the basics and was like...wait, why am i doing this? and then i raised mille & carte noir to 10. I'll prob max mille before maxing penombre

I think it should be tempest, then pemombre.
Does pem add like, attack+ or % to attacks?
also, i use it when Mobs get too hard, and the iframes help survival alot.