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Firepoisonarchmage

I/l switch to F/p

I have a few questions about F/P seeing as im changing to it soon. Im changing to f/p because of bossing reasons.

Will my range drop/raise/stay the same after i change jobs? What will happen to my crit rate? Is it a hard transition from i/l to f/p?

Thanks in advance

February 21, 2014

18 Comments • Newest first

DemoDango

@Deadlymember: Other way around. F/P's total damage is additive.

The crit rate on CL actually makes crit damage/SE less effective--relatively speaking--at high funding levels because both classes achieve 100% crit rate at max funding.

Reply February 21, 2014
IImaplers

Should I switch to F/P too?

Reply February 21, 2014
enoch129

Honestly, the damage boost isn't worth switching from an I/L to an F/P. I switched my il to an fp a month after the update came, and I found the fp game style not my cup of tea. It was practically mist eruption all the way in order to do the most dmg. But honestly, I found any adventurer mage to be boring because of the stationary skills, so I went for the BaM and I love it. Just my two cents.

Reply February 21, 2014
EMSfreeze

seriously, why are so many here against him switching over? he already decided it o_o

basically set DoT on a boss and cast mist explosion. with my unfunded F/P lv 110 i am hitting 100k each line with mist explosion (around 7k range if i remember corectly)

Reply February 21, 2014
Deadlymember

[quote=DemoDango]Okay, since nobody seems to say it whenever the topic comes up...

F/Ps have 25% more innate total damage tacked on thanks to Fervent Drain, whereas the I/L counterpart simply gives crit damage.[/quote]

If F/P 25% total damage is multiplicative, and I/L max crit damage is addictive, then a I/L with high enough crit would benefit more.

Reply February 21, 2014
Amorous

if you job change you will lose like 16k mana from the sp reset. nexon coding skills op

Reply February 21, 2014
ChildOfAres

To answer some butthurt comments on my post. I love i/l but seeing as im getting into more solo bossing/2 ppl runs i want a better bossing mage class. I asked about my dmg/crit for bossing reasons not training. Why would i want to be doing less DPM if i have a chance to do more? Is it not the point of bossing to kill set boss? So why stick with a class that is inferer to bossing when i csn chsnge to a class that is better suited for bossing?

And to every one else. Thanks for the input. I've played f/p before, pre-red, they were fun just never bossed with them.

Reply February 21, 2014
DemoDango

Okay, since nobody seems to say it whenever the topic comes up...

F/Ps have 25% more innate total damage tacked on thanks to Fervent Drain, whereas the I/L counterpart simply gives crit damage.

Reply February 21, 2014
rs567

@SombraManx: "...if you're using an ice lightning one right now."

But yes, you're right.

Reply February 21, 2014
SombraManx

[quote=rs567]Also don't forget to take into consideration the fact that you'd have to make a new secondary if you're using an ice lightning one right now.[/quote]

unless he is using a shield f3

Reply February 21, 2014
VietUA

@zilliro: A motive to find a class who's better at doing something else than another? He's doing this so people won't get on his butt and make him stay an I/L. I've seen it so many times with other classes: "Stay with us, ____ sucks!" There is not a feud between any class, especially not in the mage category, since its the playstyles that make us all so different from each other. Its just outrageous to believe that you would hope someone would be bored of their class to prove a point.

Reply February 21, 2014
archusz

i change my bish to fp
fp is good
i have 80 crit and become 90 with hyper
i can boom everyday and its so op

Reply February 21, 2014
zilliro

i concede fps are stronger. that's undeniable.
the fact that that's the reason he's citing for why he wants this change is what's off-putting.
people seem to think there's some sort of feud between classes.
i don't care about il populations. i have no stock in whether or not he sticks to his. his motive annoys me.

Reply February 21, 2014
VietUA

Holy cow, the I/Ls hate must hate this ._.
Honestly, I'd say do what you would like. F/P isn't a class for everyone, and as biased as you are about that, mages are all just as fantastic as the next. F/P doesn't have a matching style to I/L besides the full map attacks (Meteor Shower/Blizzard) and mutual explorer mage skills.
Your range should be about the same, if not a little more/less. However, with the stacking systems of DoT and your specialized skill, you will see your damage skyrocket especially against bosses. Critical will be a little less, however, if you need some extra, try getting Decent Sharp Eyes. Mesos will be your only concern as it takes [b]a lot[/b] to transfer over. Mastery Books shouldn't be any concern.
@KendrickControl: As much as I agree that damage shouldn't be the main objective, I/Ls are inferior to F/Ps greatly when it comes to bossing. I would say he made a really good choice to change over for bossing, and that alone. Training isn't done much past 200, unless you want to reach 250 anyways.
@zilliro: The mage community should shun you. Honestly, because your an I/L, your biased opinions against a class that overpowers you in only a FEW ways should not bother you. An I/L is effective for training purposes, while F/P is for bossing. It would be a slap in the face to say that "I/Ls are absolutely the worst class ever, hope you guys all get buffed - you'll need it," Mainly because it is untrue. F/Ps can be fun for anyone who understands the system.

Reply February 21, 2014 - edited
rs567

Also don't forget to take into consideration the fact that you'd have to make a new secondary if you're using an ice lightning one right now.

Reply February 21, 2014 - edited
Green4EVER

[quote=zilliro]if damage is what you want, there are other classes better than fp. heck, there are other mages better than fp.
i kind of hope you end up hating fps, realizing that despite being able to hit harder and kill faster, you're either bored or exhausted by fp playstyle.[/quote]

Not in terms of bossing there isn't. F/P is the best mage when it comes to bossing.
Luminous is only better during Equilibrium, but what are you going to do when it's on cooldown? Sit and spam Reflection? Have fun with your terrible DPS while using that.

Reply February 21, 2014 - edited
zilliro

if damage is what you want, there are other classes better than fp. heck, there are other mages better than fp.
i kind of hope you end up hating fps, realizing that despite being able to hit harder and kill faster, you're either bored or exhausted by fp playstyle.

Reply February 21, 2014 - edited
ChildOfAres

[quote=Jwoy]Your range will stay.
Your critical rate will remain the same (You will lose 25% from main attack skill if that is what you concerned).
Not at all, you just lose mesos for job changing and mastery books; unless you're using dedicated elemental staff then it might be a problem.[/quote]

So just MMB basically is what ill lose. I have a faf wand so im good.
But overall my dmg overtime will be better correct?

Reply February 21, 2014 - edited