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I wish i knew that loveless stuff was psokable after equip before i made my 140 sword =/ too bad this was like 2 months ago
yay inaccurate information!

every noob that says emp set is better than tyrant jus makes me facepalm

[quote=Pendant]For the mature reply I will reply back once more as well.
Opting for gear because you're poor does not make it better.

I edited my above post with the correct math to show how great of a difference it does make.

If you notice the, what now is a max range even with the new cap, AB is using tyrant gear and not empress.
Want the best, gota be ready to pay up.

We already have 17x stat 6x-7x attack tyrant gear as well. It just isn't released to the general public, as was empress when it first came out.
The economy is in disarray atm so there's nothing to be done.

We want 7-20b, we get that sometimes. Otherwise people go to the cheaper option which we also provide.
It's a semi-win - win situation, and I'll take it since I have my gear.[/quote]

No need, it's going to get ignored.

[quote=Pendant]Going to ignore everything you said and show you the math right here.

17x stats x 3 = 500 stat set.
Assume every piece of your gear has 21%+ meaning you get a total of 250% main stat.

250 x 500 = 1250 stat boost. ([b]Edit, this should be 1750 boost due to +500.[/b]) 1250 stat boost equates to currently 1/7 of my total luck, str, or int which is at over 10,000.
My range is currently at 350k. 1/7 of my range being boosted would mean that my range would go to 400k.

Add in 170 watt. 170 watt equates to 500-600 main stat, raising my range another 75-100k. Putting me at 475-485 maybe 500k. A gain of nearly one half of my range.

Boss % works off of your original damage and no multipliers.

Main range without tyrant gear being 350k, assuming I do 1m with X attack. 30% of 1m is 300k, meaning 1.3m (We're assuming no cap here, this could work for any math you do). Boss % is stackable but not off of itself.

In the scenario above where I gained 1/2 of my range, feel free to see that the 1m would turn into 1.4-1.5m damage.
I didn't even bother with the complete math seeing as the higher your attack or main stat gets the higher your range increases.

In reality my range would be 650k+ from a full set of tyrant gear.
Which I am working on.

In a fools world 30% boss would be better than nearly double your range.
Seeing as 30% boss does not mean a gain of 30% your damage, otherwise everyone would hit max.
Boss % does not stack off of itself, meaning if you have 90% you do not go 1m + 1% + 1% + 1% + 1% +1% (aka 1.01m + 1%, +1% after that).

You directly go 1m x 90%.
It is based off your range and attack %, which [b]comes from a higher range aka tyrant equips.[/b]

I'll upload a video of my kaiser with 999k attack range with tyrant and like 500k without. Ya, the difference is that great.

[b]Edit[/b]: Didn't even do the math right.
Main stat should be 1250+500 = 1750 meaning my range would go up yet another 50-75k.

Also, since boss % does not work off of your damage rather your range, if you had any other boss % on your weapon the multiplier would be substaintially greater.

350k x 100% boss (assuming 1m damage at 350k) = 2m.
500k x 70% boss (assuming 1.5m damage) = 2.55m (This 500k should really be 575-600k, meaning about 3m).

Pretty sure 2.55/3 > 2, but I haven't taken first grade math in a long time.[/quote]

Awesome; I like writing essays and getting ignored.

Anyways, KMS has a new system that shows what certain gear will add to your range. The reason why not many opt for the FULL tyrant equip set is because they already have nice empress equips (with over 30+ att and heaps of base stats) that best it.

There, hope this wasn't too much to read this time around

[quote=Pendant]I laughed so hard.

You think 30% boss out classes 480 all stats and 200 attack/matt?
Really now?

I wasn't going to post in here again after that drama, but really?
Really?

To anyone who's asked loveless or empress, go loveless.
Why lose 10-15 attack? I don't understand. Not to mention the 200-400k range loss from non tyrant gear.[/quote]

With there being no cap in the nearish future, when funded people are running around hitting 2 mils, 4 mils or maybe the eliete spamming 6 mils, that 30% extra boss damage with 45 attack would indeed outclass a 200 att cape with that many stats. 30% of 2mil (more practical players given nexon will obviously revamp many skills so hitting such damage is possible as they have in the past when cap was raised to 999k) is 600k damage extra per hit! Given the distant future when certain classes will be able to reach the new cap (which again is bound to happen because when we switched from 199k to 999k, most classes well funded would only hit barely over the old cap but eventually now anyone can max), that 30% can be an enormous amount of extra boss damage. Lets say a player spams 20mil per line of whatever given attack. 30% of 20 mil is 6 mil damage extra.

A player has 600 attack from all their equips and lets say 4000 of their base stats (example). They are given the choice of a tyrant cape perfected or a perfected empress cape (given they have the complete empress set and because the shoulder isn't out yet) the tyrant cape would add 480 stats (12 stars I'm assuming) and 200 att; With potential and whatnot factored in that would boost their att to 800 and base stats to 5440. If the empress cape was miracle chaosed to 20 att, gave 25% of the players base stat (3 lines legendary, 21% base on two lines combined, 2% all stats neb, 2% bonus pot), the players base stats would be about 4400-4500ish and their att would be boosted by 30 from the 6th empress bonus + the 20 of the cape to 650. With the 30% factored in, hypothetically that person would be at +195 = 845 and their base stats would hypothetically amount to 5720 (if you use the lower of 4400). Basically, the empress set bonus outclasses that of just using straight up tyrant equips. Although in the near future, one can substitute one of the equips for the cape or shoes (since the empress shoulder will be available), it wouldn't be best to not us empress given the set bonus still outclasses tyrant gear.

You can argue that right now, perfect tyrant shoes and a cape would best an empress set (as that would be true) BUT once the empress shoulder is out, end game will eventually be the empress set and either a tyrant cape instead of the empress one or tyrant shoes instead of empress ones given both a perfected piece of tyrant gear and empress combined would be a powerful combination.

EDIT: I actually saw a thread about someone selling a 7 star enhanced tyrant cape. It only had 17x stats and 5x attack. I don't think it can go up to 200 attack with five stars thus, empress CREAMS tyrant and the argue mentioned above is VOID Although, I'll still admit once the empress shoulder is out a tyrant cape or shoes with 6 pieces of empress would be quite beastly

[quote=betaboi101]30% boss and 45 extra attack on top of godly kms potential of 21-30%+ per empress equip (not even including their three lines of bonus pot) kind of outclasses a 50 att cape 150 stat unpottable cape/ shoes that can't be potted (unless they decide to use the cape for the att boost and use the empress shoulder for the 6 set effect as well <3)[/quote]

Are you sure u cant pot tyrant cape/shoes? im sure i saw a hidden pot tyrant cape smega'ed yesterday at bera o.o

Btw: if u get the good cpb face accessory and the weapon, u get a 10 attack set bonus.

[quote=WhyUNoFun]I wonder why KMS user still use empress when there already tyrant[/quote]

30% boss and 45 extra attack on top of godly kms potential of 21-30%+ per empress equip (not even including their three lines of bonus pot) kind of outclasses a 50 att cape 150 stat unpottable cape/ shoes that can't be potted (unless they decide to use the cape for the att boost and use the empress shoulder for the 6 set effect as well <3)

I wonder why KMS user still use empress when there already tyrant

doesn't levels have pink bean set 1 effect (or pink bean set 2 effect?)

1 req weapon+pink bean mark (eye/untradeable) you have to kill the chaos pink bean to get pink bean mark
other req the hat/overall

[quote=Pendant]I get banned on southperry because I'm not afraid to admit I don't play legitimately. I could return anytime I want, eos has nothing on me.

Nice straw tactic, relevant argument is not relevant at all.
Learn how to argue or end up like danny.

Study up before posting in threads of which you know nothing in while you're at it.
I thought you were ok until this point, clearly I was wrong.

Continue lurking on.[/quote]

Like I give a rat's ass about you think of me. I never liked you, not even on southperry.

[quote=Pendant]No, you're just lying.

You clearly quoted my post and said "Really, green dude?" hence referring to the condescension of that one post, in which there was none.
Refer the prior post about empress not saying PSOKable until equipped as well to end this idiocy.[/quote]

Lying?
I clearly said I was referring to many of your other posts and not just that one.
I lurk enough to know that what I've said is true.

It's probably part of the reason why you've been banned on southperry too.

[quote=Pendant]Nice try, but no.[/quote]

See, you're doing it again.

[quote=Pendant]I wasn't being condescending, I didn't know your basil name and it really didn't occur to me that it was so important to you.
Relax.[/quote]

I wasn't just referring to that post, I was referring to all of your posts. You're always condescending in almost every post I see you make on here.

The amount of no research going on in this thread is so low. Im sorry guys but it is psokable and emp gear is actually outclassed by the new equips as previously stated many times.

Off Topic: @Crystalshadow: Happy Birthday Mister

[quote=CrystalShadow]What makes you think them being able to be PSoKed after equipping is a glitch?[/quote]
Well not really a glitch, I should've chosen another word, it's just the fact that none of them say they can be PSoKed until after it's been equipped.

[quote=Pendant]
@Greendude
It was never a "GLITCH", orangemushroom is just inaccurate due to being poor in KMS, or at least poor at the time these weapons came out.
Aka no first hand experience with them.[/quote]
Really...? "Greendude"? ...
Why do you always have to be so condescending?

Refer to my other quote included in this post as well.

So in conclusion, this guy selling loveless equips really cheap thought the rumor is true so he is selling it cheap or he glitched CPB and got it easy so selling it cheap?

[quote=GreenyScott]Loveless has a better base attack than empress, but no set bonus.

It also is untradeable after you equip it, so no resale value.[/quote]It has both a set bonus and is able to be PSoKed. Sure, the set bonus isn't as great, but if you're going top/bottom combo or have Elite Heliseum/Nova/Tyrant gear, Loveless is much better overall.

@Green4EVER: What makes you think them being able to be PSoKed after equipping is a glitch?

@FoxyFox: [url=http://i.imgur.com/XsGvB.png]You clearley don't know what you're talking about.[/url]

Nothing can beat E-staff lol.

[quote=FoxyFox]@lvXBowvl CPB is chaso pink bean, @Suni i am correcting you if your wrong which you are and ALL loveless weps are higher attack than empress clean except for the staff, they are all 50-200m because hackers farm them buy one i recommend it best weapon clean in the game atm for super cheap 100% that they will never be deleted, the are tradable WITH a psok, i have corroected all i am done[/quote]

E-staff is better.

[quote=lvXBowvl]Wats CPB?[/quote]

Chaos Pink Bean, the boss that drops Loveless weapons.

[quote=Green4EVER]They're selling them cheap because they're hacking CPB and just want to get rid of their stock. I know this because there's yet to be a successful legitimate run in GAZED.
I've seen people say the weapons are actually glitched and that you can PSoK them after equipping them but I've yet to see any proof.[/quote]

Wats CPB?

They're selling them cheap because they're hacking CPB and just want to get rid of their stock. I know this because there's yet to be a successful legitimate run in GAZED.
I've seen people say the weapons are actually glitched and that you can PSoK them after equipping them but I've yet to see any proof.

But some1 is selling loevelss claw with atk+76 for only 200m, and not sold for several hours. Don't u think its really cheap?

Loveless has a better base attack than empress, but no set bonus.

It also is untradeable after you equip it, so no resale value.