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KoC what is best for Boss?

Example: pap, scar, balrog pq, miniboss (Manon, BF, Anego, Etc.)

October 23, 2010

23 Comments • Newest first

danielcatu

thunder breaker or wind archer

Reply November 8, 2010
madeintaiwan

[quote=antrulz]Uhm really your nl cant outdo your tb on a halloween cat? i find that incredible hard to believe[/quote]

I haven't actually timed myself, but it feels a lot more efficient doing it on TB rather than NL.
It just feels so out of sync and frustrating, seeing half your stars just fly through the cat without hitting.

Reply November 8, 2010
Shadowmage72

TBS>WA>DW>NW>BW IMO.

Reply November 8, 2010
Jinghang

Thunder breakers...all the invincibility frames.

Reply November 8, 2010
madeintaiwan

I do a fair bit of bossing on my 120 TB really.
Pianus, and other area bosses such as Griffey and Manon, I prefer with my TB, rather than NL.
Dojo I can regularly solo up to Levithian.
BF I can solo faster on my TB, than on my NL.
It's also quicker to kill those Halloween Cat bosses on my TB, rather than NL.
And I often use it as an Echo mule at Scar or Zak.
And theres uses as an SI mule too.

You will often hear other people saying "WOW Pro damage" to you, even when your using clean/craply scrolled equips, just because Barrage can hit so high. And even better with Lightning weak+SE.

So in conclusion, as you can probably tell, I'd pick TBs.

Reply November 8, 2010
silva69

hmmm barrage for thunder breakers. nice hp.
branish for dawn warriors ... great hp if needed and good damage.
Triple throw for night walkers ... not much hp so yeah .... would need to be Hp washed

Reply November 8, 2010
Zero765

Dawn Warriors-Hell no. we dont have rush. Which isnt really useful in my opinon,not saying it sucks but i just never found it useful.
Though NWs have very good dmg and also who dosnt love Posion Bomb?

Reply November 8, 2010
doczhivago

TB due to SI for a melee party, plus they're practically as strong as a lvl 150 bucc due to critical and whatnot i'm sure they can get into zak and scar runs easily just due to others looking at them as SI mules, but whatever they'd be able to hold their own i'm sure.

NWs are nice too since they're about as strong as a 128 NL (after adjusting for TT's nerf, 70 extra AP, and damage reduction due to being lvl 120) and they have alchemist which is nice if you'd ever use a gelt, apple, unripe apple or witch stew on them.

DWs are ok i guess, but no stance and no rush really limits them. they're ok if you're in a party with a DrK that can give them HB and keep something pinned. they're good for killing BFs, scars, paps, pianus, and crows with a party of lower levels like DK/DrK and priest to clear out a chan to hime, but they really aren't designed to be a bossing class, mostly a mix of warrior with flash jump and a mage with all their range and AoE attacks.

same goes for WAs, they're ok too, and they get puppet, but yeah still very limited in possibilities just like the DW.

blaze wizards ... hehe, blaze wizards, uhh good for leeching friends ... i guess you could help a DrK friend kill a BF, Scar, or pianus.

Reply November 4, 2010 - edited
pandax2

You can't scar with a KoC, you need at least lvl 130 to hit 100% of your dmg
try NW, they lvl faster from 75-100

Reply November 4, 2010 - edited
krishy

If youre going to HP wash a WA you might as well just make a regular archer. if you don't plan on Hp washing, they NEED a czhelm and a pair of rex earrings, at the least. or HB.
I boss perfectly fine w/o HB because of my czhelm but my WA friend dies relatively fast at scar's 3rd body.
I would say a NW can replace a lvl 134 NL at a point, but i believe everyone says TB becuase of i frames and transform.

Reply October 23, 2010 - edited
Vegeto

Thunder Breaker. Infinite invincibility frames FTW, and nice damage!
If you want rushing ability, UNLIMITED survivability, great damage (100k barrages with unfunded crap equips), go TB!

Reply October 23, 2010 - edited
PhreshPrynce

[quote=jimmyjxia]I've never played a Dawn Warrior, but WHAT WHAT WHAT? They don't have RUSH? O_O

They aren't even warriors. No rush? WTF - BOOOOOOM[/quote]

Lol rushless warriors..... still cant believe it either.. that's why i feel that they fail sooooooooo hard

Reply October 23, 2010 - edited
ashje

I heard it was WAs/TBs...

WAs get Hurricane, albeit slightly nerfed, and Wind Walk for emergencies.

Reply October 23, 2010 - edited
CiberRed

[quote=Applesnacks]None, If your going to boss make a DB/Aran/Adventurer[/quote]

My plan is to create an Ultimate for that reason I want to create a KoC but I also want to use another example to go on expeditions.

Reply October 23, 2010 - edited
jimmyjxia

[quote=PhreshPrynce]Lol dawn warriors dont even have rush.....

Either wind archers or thunder breakers[/quote]

I've never played a Dawn Warrior, but WHAT WHAT WHAT? They don't have RUSH? O_O

They aren't even warriors. No rush? WTF - BOOOOOOM

Reply October 23, 2010 - edited
poohead372

wind archer or NW

Reply October 23, 2010 - edited
Applesnacks

None, If your going to boss make a DB/Aran/Adventurer

Reply October 23, 2010 - edited
PhreshPrynce

[quote=jimmyjxia]Dawn warrior. Highest survivability and pretty decent damage output.

Nightwalkers would work too I guess.[/quote]

Lol dawn warriors dont even have rush.....

Either wind archers or thunder breakers

Reply October 23, 2010 - edited
Shirusu

I go for Night Walkers. They are pretty much made for bossing.

Reply October 23, 2010 - edited
charleskim

I have a 120 DW, and it's completely useless at bosses. Lack of rush means I cant BF, I can only survive anego with HP washing + HB pants. I do 50-60k with brandish, but lack of stance interrups my DPM alot.

Reply October 23, 2010 - edited
jimmyjxia

Dawn warrior. Highest survivability and pretty decent damage output.

Nightwalkers would work too I guess.

Reply October 23, 2010 - edited
kratos7777

I think Thunder Breakers have the best bossing potential.

Decent health, good damage and fast attacks.

Reply October 23, 2010 - edited