General

@iLluZioN: i guess what makes ksin on hermits,dbs,cbs easy is that we move so fast and att really quickly they dont have time to get to the next mob and kill

Why is Nexon doing this?

*looks at level 50s dealing 20k per hit*

Gee, I don't know.

@iLluZioN: my other post came out wrong i meant to say i had to ks the people trying to take my spot,and there were like wh and saders and a few priests

Quit complaining your only level 47 anyways...

@trips486: uhm dont make assumptions i never said i ks to stole maps,i ksed to protect my channel. And at one point everyone left for some reason so i had the whole map so dont go out and insult people without info first

uh i just got to 3rd job on my db and just lvled to 80..i can ks almost anyone at jesters and i had a whole map to myself today for like an hour at broa

i cant w8 for chaos patch i get new skills on my db and aran when does it come out in gms?

Eugh, its you that annoying troll aran
Please just die, the world would be better off without you

db still good

[quote=Kuroda]@orangeking11: I still think we should have been compensated alittle. Maybe get a new mobbing skill for 2nd job or something.
Make our lives a bit easier.
Because, lets admit it, spamming 2 skills can get alittle boring at times.[/quote]
No minimum range makes things so much easier than before. AVENGERRRR! being cranked up in damage makes our mobbing a lot more respectable than it used to be. And now we can rely a lot less on SE thanks to the new Crits system and ETSH. xD

And yeah, 1st-3rd job sucks compared to 4th to me. But that's true with all classes. But really, if you really think we need new skills to be more satisfying, have you considered making another class? xD

[quote=Kuroda]Stop complaining. At least you aren't a sin, and get all your skills thrown to another job, getting nothing in return.[/quote]

We still have a lot of "unique" skills, like Storm, ETSH, and Shadow Stars. Plus our TT is more potent than NW's TT. But I like our sharing of skills - it shows that our abilities are respected and versatile. Good skills are like good cookies, you shouldn't hog 'em all to yourself. When a CB says "omg, FJ + SP own!", I smile. xD

@JeffieAran: I can't tell what time tense you are using... Still, I get the point. Nerf after constant nerf. Well, some of it was needed. Nexon may have gone overboard with some of it, I don't play a DB so I don't know.

And sorry about sudden raid. I don't know what that is, but it seems like you enjoyed it. o.o If it makes you feel better, Nexon took away my wand's 25% damage boost.

[quote=Quickjumper7]The reorganization, brought in only 1 part in the official server, is the first part of the chaos patch. So no, not 4 balances patches, only 2. Anyways, Dual Blades needed to be nerfed a bit. They were terribly overpowered. I can see how it is unfair since you made the character before the balance patches, but that is why people always say to make a character on fun preference rather than high damage.

I really want to see this x3Ren person... he seems popular.[/quote]

Actually, DBs are ALREADY nerfed before BB. Fatal blow is now 110% instead of 180%.
Sudden Raid and Final Cut is cooldown-mode now.
And SUDDEN RAID IS REMOVED!

The reorganization, brought in only 1 part in the official server, is the first part of the chaos patch. So no, not 4 balances patches, only 2. Anyways, Dual Blades needed to be nerfed a bit. They were terribly overpowered. I can see how it is unfair since you made the character before the balance patches, but that is why people always say to make a character on fun preference rather than high damage.

I really want to see this x3Ren person... he seems popular.

Nexon nerfed (or balanced) DBs because they were more powerful than the other classes. Besides, it's not like DBs are doing half the damage as other classes, they do just about the same in most cases. Now you can play you DB because you think the play style is fun and not for the best damage. >.>

so ? what if they're weaker ?
damage isn't eh only thing is this game you know.

take that you all desperate DBs

[quote=Kevinf342]one word....Battle Mage= great ksers [/quote]

I R DB and I KS the MEEP out of Battle Mages!

I thought that DBs owned PvP?

[quote=Igniter54]I have a two answers for you, flame shield [b]ON[/b].

First, they were over-powered pre-big bang, and you think they should be more over-powered? Dual Blades were meant for their quick movement, fast speed, and cunning attacks. They weren't meant to be over-powered. Pre-big bang everything was unbalanced, and now post-big bang everything is now balanced, somewhat. Seeing level 60+ do more damage than me showed me discouragement. Imagine you as an Aran, training by yourself, seeing those horrible Dual Blades hitting more than you and KSing you. That's one of the moral reasons why Dual Blades [b]should[/b] be nerfed. Period.

Second, why do you even bother to train your Dual Blade? You see all of this nonsense and you come and complain on BasilMarket. You should just keep it to yourself and ask, "Why am I even bothering with this class?". If you don't like the huge nerf patches, quit your character. We aren't forcing you to do anything, but Nexon is forcing you to go through these patches and living with it. It's the e-life buddy, get used to it.

I sure wish people would read those other threads first.[/quote]

And I wish you to actually LOOK at my characters before saying all that crap about me NOT knowing that DBs ks you.
My point is that I have played an aran to level 70, and DBs pwn at ksing, and they hit a lot higher, so that is the sole reason I started a DB.

Judging from your Basil ID, you should go back to being an Aran.

They were OP'd, they needed to be nerfed. They'll be rebuffed in Chaos. Trust me, Evans have it ALOT worse off. These balancing patches have made us anything but balanced...

No one likes over powered classes, except the people who play the over powered classes. Nexon is making things "fair" by making an over rated and over powered class nerfed

@canadakid93: eh, they become a bit op in 3rd job, doesn't matter since 3rd job doesn't boss really anyways

If you're so angry about DBs getting nerfered to be balanced like everyone else, make a bloody mechanic. You'll be doing x2 the damage you do now.

[quote=canadakid93]Just to clarify chaos is rorganization. And last time I checked Chains of Hell becomes 3rd job with 10 hits that each do 100%, that's right 100%, crit. Pretty sure that's MORE overpowered than before? Oh not to mention they get Phantom Blow which does even MORE damage than Chains of Hell. Yeah so just for you still thinking DB's get nerfed, they don't.[/quote]

well in all fairness, CoH gets nerfed to only 80% dmg when it gets moved to 3rd job o.o

[quote=randomboy67]not just that. after chaos update we lose our sudden raid[/quote]

They're an Explorer.
Only class that gets an ultimate from Explorer classes are Mages
Dual Blade =/= Mage

Ultimate (My definition) - Large mobbing skill that deals heavy damage, but with a cooldown.

Main Idea: DB's were OP, Still OP and changes will be made until it isn't that OP
Wonder If they're gna do that to Mechs

[quote=randomboy67]not just that. after chaos update we lose our sudden raid[/quote]

so what? sudden raid gets replaced with even better and more useful skills like blade fury. you lost a mob skill that has a 30sec cooldown for a better and stronger atk, plus any nerf % on the skills you had doesn't even matter bc of the new dagger+katana formula so in reality dbs get stronger, i think even stronger than before BB.

Actually do a little digging and you can see they arent getting nerfed bad enough to make a thread. o.o

Says the obviously-zero-funds-who-probably-doesn't-have-Slash-Storm-and-only-level-46

You have no idea how overpowered Dual Blades are.

dbs actually get better by the end of chaos, no clue what you are complaining about o.o

you deserve what you're getting

Says the DB who didn't get to 3rd job.

NO. Dbs didn't get nerfed THAT much.

DB's: Why are we getting weaker?
Non-DB's: Finally. They're doing something about that overpowered class.

Nuf said.