Opinions on my Pc set up?

Intel i5-3570 $210
Corsair CSSD-F60GB3A-BK Force Series 3 SSD for quicker OS boot up - $80
MSI Z77A-G45 Intel 7 Series Motherboard - $135
xfx radeon 5670 (current gpu)
Patriot G2 (4 x 8gb) 1600MHz - $230
HDD 1TB - $90
cd/dvd drive - $18
Ultra Defender Gaming Mid-Tower Case w/ 700W ATX Power Supply - $109

I'll be mainly doing compositing and 3d renders. Any advice I should consider before buying everything? (I know the ram is a lot but it's nothing compared to the 64 and 96 that most setups have)

September 10, 2012

12 Comments • Newest first

skye09

[quote=CrayonScribble]Why do you need 32GB of RAM, when 8GB is more than enough for 99.95% of everyday applications.[/quote]

The answer to your question is clearly stated in his first post.

Reply September 11, 2012

CrayonScribble

Why do you need 32GB of RAM, when 8GB is more than enough for 99.95% of everyday applications.

Reply September 11, 2012

qwan456

[quote=ItzPat]If I remember correctly they came from Corsair and Thermaltake, and they were quite pricey for such low wattage units ($50-$70 each), 400w and 430w respectively, and my brother had the exact same PSUs put into another build, albeit less power-hungry than mine, and was fine with it, however mine seemingly had 'issues'.[/quote]

Thermaltake has some very good power and some very piss poor units especially their budget lines. For example, this HEC unit failed before hitting 600w because it when out of ATX specs on the ripples on the +12v rail. http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Thermaltake-TR2-RX-750-W-Power-Supply-Review/902/7

As for Corsair. You sure it isn't from Coolermaster or something right? If you are sure you got a budget corsair, I would assume that you have a defective unit, if you indeed have a similar setup as the TS. The most you could do is the voltage with DMM, but I guess that isn't an option anymore?

FYI, I had powered a 5770 with an overclock AMD Phenom II x4 955 on a Corsair CX400 for a year and gave it to my brother. It's still working to this very day.

[quote=ItzPat]"If it's a bundle with a case, then no one is suggesting spending $110 on a PSU."
That wasn't my point, I'm simply stating a bundle is a bundle. If you buy a CPU/Motherboard bundle for lets say, $189, you're effectively paying $189 in total for both components. It's a logical reasoning to look at pricing like that. If you are buying 2 apples and 2 oranges at $8.99, when alone they total to $9.99, they are $8.99 together. A bundle works like that, you can't just swap parts out willy-nilly.[/quote]

I know what a bundle is. Even if that wasn't your point, your wording made it seem like you are telling DJP the TS don't need a $110 PSU as though as she had suggested it. Like you said, you are paying $189 for a mobo/CPU combo, but you are not paying $189 for just one of the them separately. Btw, what you said here also could mean you are saying "No point in spending $110 on a PSU [b]and case[/b] right now". This can actually be debatable, as unless there's a sale, a good budget case can cost around $40~$50, while a competent 450w like you wanted would cost ~$50 as well.

Anyways, I don't give a crap about whether it's $110 or $50 or it's a bundle or whatever. That's irrelevant. If getting a new PSU means he has to select a different case or get it separately by all means due so. This shouldn't be an issue if the TS manage to pick out quite a few of the components himself. Actually, if that case was bundled with that Rosewill Capstone, I have no complaints on the TS spending $110 on it. However, that isn't the case. What we have here is a case that can be use with a PSU that shouldn't be used. Like I had say, it's a poor overrated RSY unit. It will NOT give more than ~500w of usable power on a modern day system assuming we can even trust the specification provided by Ultra and that the electrical performance and build quality is at least decent...

Let me put it in another way for you. The NZXT Phantom 410 and that 650w Leadman I had link to that failed at 184w is bundled for $100, and I comment on how that PSU is a PoS. Are you going to quote me and explain to me that "you can't just swap parts out willy-nilly" because it's in a bundle, when I had explain to the TS that he will be putting his system at risk using that power supply? Now I wonder how this conversion is going to end up like if a competent PSU was bundled with an incompatible motherboard...

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qwan456

[quote=ItzPat]Ultra Defender Gaming Mid-Tower Case w/ 700W ATX Power Supply - $109

It's included. Therefore it's $110.

And you were talking about PSUs so I quoted your post.

@Qwan456

I never really trusted anything sub-400w for my 5670 setup, as I've had 2 different PSUs die randomly @ 430w or so. Build was slightly similar to OPs originally. Even if the 5670's power draw being quite insignificant, I'd watch what you'd get for a PSU.[/quote]

You said "No point in spending $110 on a PSU", when the "$109" is for the Ultra Defender Case and the Ultra LSP-700 PSU.

Which two PSU that died? There are low-end PoS power supplies that are labeled as a 650w fail before even reaching 300w. For example, this Leadman build Cheifmax 650w failed at 184w. http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=71

Whereas a high-end power supply like the Seasonic x400 could deliver up to 600w without remaining ATX specs as shown in this review (of course, I'm not saying to that power supply if you need something more than 400w). http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Seasonic-X-400-Fanless-Power-Supply-Review/1073/8

What you want to look at is not just the wattage of the power supplies but rather quality of it. This is because "wattage" could be anything in the PSU industry. You could have a power supply that can have a 400w PEAK PSU that is measure at 25C to a 400w continuous PSU that's measure at 45C while give a greater reserve power due to it higher rated components.

[quote=ItzPat]If he intends to get a bundle then you should price it together AS a bundle. If you'd like to go and get each and every type of price miss priss, then by all means, go ahead and do so.
"If the power supply is from Ultra, then I would recommend avoiding it"
Ultra Defender Gaming Mid-Tower Case w/ 700W ATX Power Supply - $109
You can interpret that this is a bundle since he's not saying otherwise.
He'd have to avoid the whole bundle then, so you're going to say it's $110. If you change one component from what I see he'd change both.
Individual pricing on them is like $70 for the case/$39->$144 for a 700W PSU (Newegg and TD since I'm not bothering to go and check hundreds of other sites for your idiotic attitude). And the $39 is BARE MINIMUM, along with a sale, so it's more like $135 in total for both if he's not buying a bundle.[/quote]

I would quote you again: "No point in spending $110 on a PSU"
If it's a bundle with a case, then no one is suggesting spending $110 on a PSU... When you quoted her, you made it seem like she stated otherwise. What DJP said was that you should get a solid, competent power supply rather than a PoS. Whether it's from a budget unit like Corsair CX430v2 (which is actually a 380w unit base on the CWT DSA II) that is priced at $45 and can be gotten on for <$30 after mail in rebate. Or a higher-end unit like the Superflower Golden Green unit (which is the Rosewill Capstone I had recommended). All of which can power the TS system.

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djpinc19

[quote=ItzPat]Ultra Defender Gaming Mid-Tower Case w/ 700W ATX Power Supply - $109

It's included. Therefore it's $110.[/quote]

Do you like...suck at math and reading comprehension? Do you even know the individual retail prices for the case and power supply?

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djpinc19

[quote=ItzPat]No point in spending $110 on a PSU right now that is way over-powered for his build.[/quote]

There is no $110 power supply in the OP or in my post.