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Wildhunter

Unexpected turn of events

Usually, i had no interest in bow related characters.

But i'm having so much fun with the wild hunter.

Just got to level 70.

Anything i can look forward to during 4th job?

November 19, 2012

20 Comments • Newest first

FlagNorFail

Thanks! Although training is a bit slow. Level 125 now. Gotta wait for Sonic Roar to be on par with swipe

Right? i expected more WHs after the revamp, but all i see are BaMs and the occasional Mechs now.
We're probably one of the most overlooked classes

Reply November 25, 2012
FlagNorFail

[quote=IbladeHD]@FlagNorFail: The f...
I know they are cheap now and stuff but dropping them and stuff? wow lol (You took it?)
Btw, i wished you played in windia i only know like 5 Wild Hunters, now it's like a lot more of us but that's prob because of the revamp [/quote]

Yes indeed, i took it haha! I plan on maining this guy. Still using mesoranger equips and the Resistance xbow. Probably will till 140.
People just want to make wild hunters just to get the rare jaguars for their mules

Reply November 25, 2012
DistantSky

[quote=Kazzooey]AFA is only good when using WaB since the rate is so fast. Just spamming Swipe/Sonic Roar is better than using WaB for training, thus rendering the higher damage and procession rate from AFA not worth the time just yet. And there is no better "mix" of AFA and Expert. They are both a flat, static rate of damage increase for both and do not have any benefit to alternation between the two. Just max one at a time. Expert gives a 10% damage increase and +30 ATT, while AFA gives +30 ATT and higher FA rates which is only really good for WaB and the passive 30 att boost.

But yea, welcome to the Wild Hunter community. I'm glad the WH community got spiced up with the revamp. There are things you can look forward to, such as WaB (WH version of Hurricane which I think looks, sounds, and feels better than BM and Merc Hurricane), Sonic Roar (a good AoE attack that feels good to use too), and a very cool ultimate with low cooldown. Also it's always good to keep hunting for better Jaguars. Jaira is a little tough to find, and Snow White is a VERY rare find. So you get to show off your Jag if you are lucky enough to find them. [/quote]

what lvls your wh now?~
oh, and AFA only gives 20 w att for bowmen. I think its 30 att only for warriors with AFA.

Reply November 25, 2012
FlagNorFail

[quote=IbladeHD]I know that feel bro, dunno why people say that our mobbing sucks, i mean, it sucked back then but now it doesn't xD
And i'll have to do the same, need to get empress set again cus now it's so cheap, i almost feel sorry paying like 1b for the xbow back then [/quote]

Yeah! I really wish you played in Gazed xD. WHs are nonexistent here.

They really are cheap for some reason. I think people dislike crossbow users so much, that they just drop all the crossbows they owe. I was at the pot shop when i saw a dropped clean empress crossbow O_O

Reply November 25, 2012
FlagNorFail

[quote=IbladeHD]@FlagNorFail: LOL how do you have a staff equiped? e.e
Anyways, i'm glad to hear you're having fun
And i think that's you, i have a very crappy range right now (prob because i dropped all my stuff when i quitted )
But i think we need as much funding as other classes (not as much as mercs)[/quote]

Oh, reason why i have a staff is because i made this guy as a placeholder for the IGN in bello. So i made a BaM. I have the same IGN in galicia, which is my WH xD
Oh i see. o_o. I think it'll start getting better once i max roar, CE, WaB and AFA.

People hate our mobbing. Personally, i like it.

Reply November 24, 2012
lansh

You can look forward to horrible mobbing.

Reply November 24, 2012
FlagNorFail

[quote=IbladeHD]Yup, but i'll go with CE first because of the things @Kazzooey (i'm your fan <3 lol) as it increases mastery too, which is good
So yeah, like i said, welcome to the Wild Hunters community
If you have any questions or not sure about something just ask, we'll answer [/quote]

Thank you, kind sir! I just hit level 122! Really enjoying the class with the cheap gear and whatnot. No clue if it's just me, or does the class in general have pretty high ranges. o_o

Reply November 24, 2012
FlagNorFail

Thanks a lot for the welcome and feedback, guys!

Just to clear things up again, it really doesn't matter what I max first, right? I guess i'll go with CE for some damage stability.

Reply November 20, 2012
draken

[quote=bluebomber24]Yea, apparently WH are like Mercs skillbuild-wise or the game change to a mobbing frenzy (haven't played in years), so you are probably correct. Apprantly, Inferno works with AFA (again so I have been told, havn't played awhile), so I assumed AFA worked with WH mobbing skills.[/quote]

The game is a mobbing frenzy now lol..

Reply November 20, 2012
bluebomber24

[quote=ryuushinou]Well there we go! Someone with better knowledge ->@bluebomber24:

I can see AFA being useful for Hurricane but at the level when you're deciding whether to raise AFA or Expert I think they'd be using their mobbing skill more? Idk. Just being curious. Feel free to guide me in the right direction as I love being more knowledgeable than to be stoic with old principles.[/quote]

Yea, apparently WH are like Mercs skillbuild-wise or the game change to a mobbing frenzy (haven't played in years), so you are probably correct. Apprantly, Inferno works with AFA (again so I have been told, havn't played awhile), so I assumed AFA worked with WH mobbing skills.

Reply November 20, 2012 - edited
ryuushinou

Well there we go! Someone with better knowledge ->@bluebomber24:

I can see AFA being useful for Hurricane but at the level when you're deciding whether to raise AFA or Expert I think they'd be using their mobbing skill more? Idk. Just being curious. Feel free to guide me in the right direction as I love being more knowledgeable than to be stoic with old principles.

[Edit] NVM, didn't check back at post before replying.

Reply November 20, 2012 - edited
bluebomber24

@Kazzooey: Oh, good point, if WaB isn't thier primary skill.

In regards to AFA and Expertise, I just heard someone state it but I havn't seen the math, so you may be right. I have seen the math for fluctuating between Expertise and Hurricane (at least when hurricane was 210%) and also SE and SL. Both depends on the characters stats of the character and level in order for them to get the optimal output.

Reply November 20, 2012 - edited
Kazzooey

[quote=bluebomber24]When JUMP came out AFA>Expertise for BMs when I was writing a JUMP guide...don't know if that changed. However, I heard that depending on the character's stats a mix of AFA and Expertise would be the overall best result. The safe bet is AFA, unless things changed though.[/quote]

AFA is only good when using WaB since the rate is so fast. Just spamming Swipe/Sonic Roar is better than using WaB for training, thus rendering the higher damage and procession rate from AFA not worth the time just yet. And there is no better "mix" of AFA and Expert. They are both a flat, static rate of damage increase for both and do not have any benefit to alternation between the two. Just max one at a time. Expert gives a 10% damage increase and +30 ATT, while AFA gives +30 ATT and higher FA rates which is only really good for WaB and the passive 30 att boost.

But yea, welcome to the Wild Hunter community. I'm glad the WH community got spiced up with the revamp. There are things you can look forward to, such as WaB (WH version of Hurricane which I think looks, sounds, and feels better than BM and Merc Hurricane), Sonic Roar (a good AoE attack that feels good to use too), and a very cool ultimate with low cooldown. Also it's always good to keep hunting for better Jaguars. Jaira is a little tough to find, and Snow White is a VERY rare find. So you get to show off your Jag if you are lucky enough to find them.

Reply November 20, 2012 - edited
ExpiredMilk

Put 1 point into AFA at 4th job and max CE. I don't recommend you max AFA first because your range would be significantly lower. And I recommend getting AFA book first.

If you need more information, there is a very well written and up-to-date guide [url=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2545046]here.[/url]

Reply November 20, 2012 - edited
bluebomber24

[quote=ryuushinou]Not necessarily. 1 point in AFA changes your activation proc significantly but more points in it may not yield superior AFA. I think with most bowman classes you start with maxing your mastery to reduce the variance in damage (your minimum damage) and increase your attack.[/quote]

When JUMP came out AFA>Expertise for BMs when I was writing a JUMP guide...don't know if that changed. However, I heard that depending on the character's stats a mix of AFA and Expertise would be the overall best result. The safe bet is AFA, unless things changed though.

Reply November 20, 2012 - edited
ryuushinou

[quote=FlagNorFail]Oh! gotcha! Much thanks!
Another quick question. If AFA allows us to hit 14 arrows per second (i think?), wouldn't maxing that be better than expert? O:[/quote]

Not necessarily. 1 point in AFA changes your activation proc significantly but more points in it may not yield superior AFA. I think with most bowman classes you start with maxing your mastery to reduce the variance in damage (your minimum damage) and increase your attack.

Reply November 20, 2012 - edited
FlagNorFail

[quote=IbladeHD]lol, we don't use bows but you'll need the mastery first, then you go AFA
And nope, it doesn't, we're not mercs, but if you don't hit more than 500k per arrow it's better then mercs
And welcome to the Wh population nice to see new peoples [/quote]

Oh! gotcha! Much thanks!
Another quick question. If AFA allows us to hit 14 arrows per second (i think?), wouldn't maxing that be better than expert? O:

Reply November 20, 2012 - edited
FlagNorFail

[quote=sacklaca123]a hurricane-like skill, which is very fun when walk-shooting
soul driver that hits 8 mobs 6 times
an ulti with short cd[/quote]
I just nerded everywhere.

Quick question. Which mastery book should I get? AFA or bow expert?

wait. Wild arrow blast hits TWICE?

Reply November 19, 2012 - edited
Etownesemp

A DOUBLE HURRICANE THAT YOU CAN RUN WITH.
So exciting that caps are needed.

Reply November 19, 2012 - edited
sacklaca123

a hurricane-like skill, which is very fun when walk-shooting
soul driver that hits 8 mobs 6 times
an ulti with short cd

Reply November 19, 2012 - edited