General

I believe bullying is wrong/incorrect because it may damage an individual's self esteem. It also shows that one person has dominace over the other. It can also lead to mental problems and suicide. It promotes hate and is despicable because it can provoke anger. Anger is dangerous if not properly treated or handled..because it can lead to revenge.

@metaghost4 I honestly believe that bullying overweight people can be justified in that it should push them forward to live a healthier lifestyle in order to prevent any further bullying. It would also get them into better shape, so they'd be able to fight back if necessary. I personally think that the way society looks down on overweight people is a good thing. Especially in America. Too many overweight people here.

Hi Kyle.
I just want to add my two cents and say that cyberbullying and verbal abuse can be avoided and that people should stop being so freaking sensitive about it.
Physical abuse is another matter, as well as anything illegal (distribution of naughty pictures of someone or something).

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That's actually a very interesting question that I've never thought about.

I'm sure theoretically someone could come up with a situation where bullying would be morally justified, but I'm too lazy to think of one at the moment.

simply put, no.
however i will say that most people who end up getting bullied become better people later on in life because of it. the coolest people i've ever met were the ones who had hard lives in one way, or another. doesn't make it justified by any means, but still.

Everyone's experienced bullying to some degree, be it emotional or physical. It's a fact of life; whether it's justified or not doesn't really matter. I'm not saying that it should be ignored, but no matter what attempts are made to curb it... it's still going to happen.

What gives you the right to physically/verbally abuse another?

I don't think any form of bullying is justified at all.
What i mean by any form, includes retaliation.
Saying bad things to one another won't make any difference.
Also, I think kids are really ignorant to these sort of things. They're socialized to bully. If they find something is different from what they normally see, they are prone to point it out and make fun of them.
sometimes even adults do these sorta things.
if we learned to accept everyone, maybe it wouldn't be so bad. but alas, that will never happen since the human race is taught to hate one another.

I honestly can't think of anything that can come out of bullying that's positive and only is exclusively from the experience of bullying

that and the reasons for bullying and the people who bully are usually totally messed up and invalid

Bullying is never justified, just flat out there is no way you can honestly condone it and say it helps people. All it does is take a target, dehumanize them, and basically ruin their lives for the time it happens over.

@zoneflare2: Thats true but, if a person is being bullied they are weak in a way. If bullying doesnt drive them into suicide, something else in the real world will(unless they become stronger because of they bullying). I've seen many people come out of bullying as stronger people who support others being bullied, some people just become bullies themselves, and the cycle will continue. Humans are sick creatures, whether you choose to or not in your mind you will always point out errors in another person's being. Thats how we are, i believe that all humans have a superiority complex to a certain extent. The real world is far worse than bullying.

[quote=AoiHorizon]If someone is weak enough to get bullied they probably wouldnt even think about that. I think they'd make it to school with they gun, then wuss out.[/quote]

except you can't generalize the entire population of people who get bullied
maybe you are unaware of the multiple school shootings that were at least partially influenced by bullying

Bullying is for turds. That is all.

[quote=zoneflare2]yeah when the victim brings a gun to school and shoots the bully LOL. The bully just wasnt fit enough to survive [/quote]

If someone is weak enough to get bullied they probably wouldnt even think about that. I think they'd make it to school with they gun, then wuss out.

Ok bullying is not ok, we all know that.
But being bullied is also not ok. I understand that standing up can be scary especially when being harassed about getting beat up if you do.
But why would you keep yourself in the state where your getting emotionally hurt every day?
Many ways to get out of it.
Parents would be devastated to find out their child is being bullied and would often go to the bullies parents.
I always wondered why kids being called gay and they are gay ( nothing wrong with it ) commit suicide,
i mean just say " Yeah I am gay, but it seems like your the one coming onto me! "
Be proud of how you are like that one Spongebob episode " I'M UGLY AND IM PROUD " ~ Spongebob Squarepants
Ok my main point stands, bullying is a no, but being bullied is also bad.

@tempest1352: Well, the first one would be quite selfish, but it's a point that people make sometimes. A theoretical situation would be if someone that is generally a very unlikable person and unwilling to change follows you and the people you know around even when the rest of the group voice their complaints. You and your group tell the person to please leave, yet he stays. At that point you would resort to bullying to push the person to leave.

The second point is for the situations where a person has harmed a majority with a hate video or something of likeness. The insulted could utilize the bullying to tell the insulter of their disagreement and would teach them a lesson.

@Demonlord: o it was a joke all along

I don't think bullying prepares you for any real world situations, except maybe boot camp training or something like that.

I've gone my entire 22 years without being bullied by a stranger and trust me I was a very awkward and weird kid. I'm embarrassed even thinking back on it.
However my brother was very cruel to me growing up. This isn't just regular brother to brother behavior. I mean he was genuinely cruel. He would hold me down and beat on me, call me a fatass, call me a f***ot, basically every single day for years. I don't know why he did this. He did not treat anyone except his own family like this. I've realized over time it was because he was a weak person inside. He knew that he was only comfortable treating people close to him like crap. I'm happy now that he has changed and apologized for how awful he was and i am happy that i was strong enough to forgive him. We have a great relationship now.
Sometimes i wonder if he had never bullied me, maybe he would have never changed and kept all of that anger inside. Maybe bullying did help him in ways, but it did not make me feel good. Bullying might accomplish something for the bully-er but it accomplishes nothing for the victim. Only years full of "why?"

[quote=Demonlord]@HotMess: Yeah.[/quote]

that seems rather intolerant to me

@wangqile123: maybe i did. my final opinion is that bullying in any shape or form cannot be justified, a little scare shapes a person, but bullying ruins a person.

Edit: could you explain how the first two points justify bullying?

@Demonlord: you're right. racial bullying or bullying someone about their physical appearance that is caused by a medical condition is the persons own fault.

[quote=tempest1352]Listen, you're mistaking beating up someone else for revenge, justification, etc., which is not bullying.
bullying is never acceptable, if a guy wants to solve a problem with his fists, that's not bullying.
bullying would include intimidation, (violence not necessary) over and over.
Girls not like to solve a problem with their fists, and will often try to avenge with social undermining, and emotional harm. This is bullying and is not acceptable.

the thing is, "should solving a debate with fists ever be acceptable" should be the main question, Bullying is justifiable[/quote]

Sorry, but you mis-interpreted my thread. I mean general bullying of all forms. Sorry if any miswordings confused you.

[quote=Demonlord]I agree: Bullying is fine, because it's the one who's being bullied at fault. Of course the one whose bullying is also at fault, but the one who is being bullied is being bullied because of himself. It's only bullying because the person allows them-self to be bullied, when there are [b]multiple solutions[/b].
1)Grow a spine, stand up.
2)Tell someone who can do something: Parents, teachers, maybe even the police.
3)Grow a spine, get ripped, kick their ass.
If it's bullying because of previous events that you did, well most likely you were just being stupid; which doesn't justify anything so you can't complain about getting teased for something stupid like nudes.[/quote]

so if you look a certain way and are bullied for it, it's your fault?

Listen, it sounds like you're mistaking beating up someone else for revenge, justification, etc., which is not bullying.
bullying is never acceptable, if a guy wants to solve a problem with his fists, that's not bullying.
bullying would include intimidation, (violence not necessary) over and over.
Girls may not like to solve a problem with their fists, and will often try to avenge with social undermining, and emotional harm. This is bullying and is not acceptable.

the thing is, "should solving a debate with fists ever be acceptable" should be the main question, Bullying is not justifiable

It turns boys into men from what my father said

Bullying derives from insecurity.