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I think Nexon has lost their minds

Ok so seriously, everyone has been saying that Maplestory is a "pay to win game" pretty much the more nx you buy the better you are. At first I was defending Maplestory but now that they just posted the new cash shop specials with these crazy prices i'm starting to believe it more and more....Seriously Nexon 159,040 NX for Max Inventory! Are they insane? Not to mention all of the other Max Equip or Max Use or what ever is 40,000 NX and up. Who would spend THAT much on this game?

I seriously wish Maplestory would go back to the way it used to be!

February 13, 2013

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ox0Shad0w0xo

[quote=MissTink021]Wow... after reading these comments I have realized that the Maple community is declining fast.

@ Chilbro- I feel like this game is geared towards anyone who is less than 25 years old, first of all what kid has that kind of money to spend on something so stupid, and what kind of parent would just hand over 160$ to their kid for an online game? I mean seriously, your post makes no sense.[/quote]

I'm sure it's already been said, but I don't feel like reading through all 6 pages at the moment so yeah. Making $160 is not that hard. When I was 15 and 16 I worked a summer job making $7.25 an hour, 20 hours a week, for basically 2 months. At the end of all that I had maybe 1 grand left after taxes.

If a "kid" really wanted money, it wouldn't exactly be out of reach, but that's only if you [i]want[/i] to spend it. The real ridiculous thing about that sale is the fact that they're doing it when an event currently gives you 4 free slots randomly (the happy time event). Why would I spend money when I could potentially get plenty of space for free from the event? Silly Nexon.

Reply February 13, 2013
jeffreysty4

Nexon is a business, and this is what businesses do.

Reply February 13, 2013
roselynne

More convenient for people who merch a lot or just like to collect random things and hoard items.

Reply February 13, 2013
richboyliang

actually i like to keep things even if they aren't worth very much, so expanding inventory slots for me is a huge convenience. i just don't think i'll pay more than a few dollars for it.

Reply February 13, 2013
Cubcub

[quote=alfredmoney]http://na.leagueoflegends.com/ Join us... >[/quote]

League is WAY MORE paid to win compared to Dota 2.

Reply February 13, 2013
lordpentt

[quote=13e4n3r]i don't see how having max inventory makes you win at the game. It's probably a joke for them anyways. As far as i know, they didn't even bother to advertise it on the site so it's not like they are pressuring you to buy it like they did with hyper tele rock(perm).[/quote]

someone's probably already done this, but
http://imgur.com/uopGaZQ

Reply February 13, 2013
chillbro

Look I dont know if you got my PM I'm sorry that I was mean to you but that only started after I was insulted either way sorry, you shouldnt take things people say on internet to heart or you gonna have a bad time its all jokes and non of em are true or hold any meaning

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
koolkat34216

[quote=MissTink021]Wow... after reading these comments I have realized that the Maple community is declining fast.

@ Chillbro- I feel like this game is geared towards anyone who is less than 25 years old, first of all what kid has that kind of money to spend on something so stupid, and what kind of parent would just hand over 160$ to their kid for an online game? I mean seriously, your post makes no sense.[/quote]

Although I do agree, it is "pay2win", @Chillbro's statement does make sense and is completely true.
Whether you like the $160 price tag or not, someone else out there doesn't care for it and Nexon doesn't care either. That's Nexon's source of income. I guarantee AT LEAST one person will buy it and hey, if they don't... Nexon tried, it's not like it hurt them doing so. Some people have money to throw around, you know... those people that sit on their butt in a high chair while you're making minimum wage and working hard. And as for kids, MANY parents spoil their kids. I wouldn't doubt some 13 year old's parents just hand their child $100+ weekly allowance - without chores - for their kid to spend on whatever they want. I'm sure those kind of parents wouldn't even care if their kid wanted to trade it in for virtual currency. When people have money to blow, it's no longer about the necessities. Life, right?
With that said, $160 is nothing if you have a job anyway.

EDIT: You are not stupid for your opinion. But when you share your opinion publicly, expect that people will share their opinions as well. As for being respectful about it, some people just don't understand that concept.

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
Azngothopz

How is this an example of pay to win? This is more of a convenience. Literally, having more inventory space will not add anything to your dps at all.

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lvl1noob

I just bought one. Worth it if you want to be pro like me.

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
squire7766

@CuaToiTim: Cheaper than buying it at a singular amount, which I had previously done on one of my characters, yet no one ever complained about [i]that[/i] before. Now with the convenience of buying it all at once and seeing a very misleading 'high' amount people are complaining for no real reason.

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
Hard2B

Like +1

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
squire7766

They're not forcing you to buy a dang thing.

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
feelmypain

u cant win this game. u dont have to pay a single penny to enjoy the game. if u pay, u enjoy better and things will be more convenient. if u run out of slots then make more account to make mules. its just inconvenient. same goes for hyper tele rock, pets. cubes makes u stronger which makes u kill things faster and train faster and thus makes ur life easier.

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
Baroo

Even though I'd never buy it, I gotta admit that it's really something that I'd want.
Lack of item space is always a problem for me, after all, even on my Cannoneer.

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idontknowmyname

We see them dollar signs and let the cash blind us
Money will brainwash you and leave your ass mindless
Like snakes slither in the grass spineless..
That is why nexon has gone crazy. That is all.

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
Rondragon123

talking about inventory reminds me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MCeRU9nQtE

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
xXSyKoXx

[quote=MissTink021]/thread
Bye
I'm done
I'm tried of being called stupid for my opinion
I'm tired of people thinking i'm trying to control someone
I was only stating facts, and my opinion on them
I know now I cant say anything anymore on this site without it blowing up into something else
Sorry for being a waste of space
Sorry for making you read my opinions it will never happen again
I will just keep my mouth shut and you will never have to worry about me again

Good bye basil market
I know now why I have 0 friends in this game[/quote]

I'm sorry if I've upset you. I didn't mean to imply you were stupid by simply disagreeing with you. That's not what I meant at all. I'll be your friend. I like for my friends to have opinions. My friends disagree with me all the time. Just don't be angry if someone disagrees with you. They have opinions too. You're not stupid though. Don't think that of yourself. There's a vast difference between simply disagreeing on a point, and intending to insult someone/implying they're stupid/etc. I meant the former, not the latter. I sincerely apologize if I've upset you. It wasn't my intent.

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
Suckitms

im not paying that much...so screw you you will never gain my money from me! >.<

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
ProBlades

[quote=13e4n3r]i don't see how having max inventory makes you win at the game. It's probably a joke for them anyways. As far as i know, they didn't even bother to advertise it on the site so it's not like they are pressuring you to buy it like they did with hyper tele rock(perm).[/quote]

It's the first thing you see on the homepage.

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
MissTink021

/thread
Bye
I'm done
I'm tried of being called stupid for my opinion
I'm tired of people thinking i'm trying to control someone
I was only stating facts, and my opinion on them
I know now I cant say anything anymore on this site without it blowing up into something else
Sorry for being a waste of space
Sorry for making you read my opinions it will never happen again
I will just keep my mouth shut and you will never have to worry about me again

Good bye basil market
I know now why I have 0 friends in this game

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
xXSyKoXx

[quote=MissTink021]Wow........This is how you talk to people, society is so sad now-a-days. Just because parents are rich doesn't mean they give their kids money to spend on a silly game. Im pretty sure MOST parents now wantt to know what their kids are buying for 160$ or whatever.

And I know how much money people put into this game, and I think it frivolous. Especially when prices on actual food, clothes, gas ect. in the real world (Which you have probably never experienced yet) are going up, the value of the dollar is going down pretty soon it will be worth nothing. So yeah, I think its stupid for Nexon to price items the way they do.

Oh, and dont talk to me like that. I am entitled to my opinion just like everyone else who plays this game, if you cant comment or debate without saying things like "your balls havent dropped yet" then i'm sorry but you are obviously to immature to discuss anything rationally or logically.

EDIT: I was giving an estimate of the ages in maple, using logic from talking to people. Its called an educated guess.[/quote]

The average age of MapleStory players is like 18-20. This was already proven by a survey a few years ago. On top of that, as the person you quoted stated, the people spending money on the game aren't children. They're adults. That said, who are you to judge how someone spends their money? I might think your car too fancy, and a waste of money. What about those shoes? You dont need $100 sneakers. You should have bought the $30 ones at Payless. And what of those clothes? You don't need those name-brand clothes. You best take your ass down to Wal-Mart and get your some fall-apart gear.

I don't seriously mean these things, but you see my point. Spending is subjective. It has nothing to do with you. If I wanted to, (which I don't, but let's say I did), I could walk into the Cash Shop right this instant and buy the max slots, spending $160 on slots. Who's to stop me, and what concern is it of yours? If I don't buy them, you're not going to get my money. Starving children in Africa aren't going to get my money. It's not going to go towards some greater-good if I don't. You're logic falls along the lines of "finish everything on your plate. There's starving children in China." <--- This makes no damn sense. It's fail logic. Whether I eat everything on my plate or not, the children in China will still starve.

At the end of the day, yes, you have your opinion. Not a problem. That said, does your opinion dictate the spending habits of another human being? No. Does your opinion that it's stupid make all of us 12 year old kids that should be talked down to and told what to do with our extra money? No. Is anything you mentioned towards another's spending habits any of your business? No. Do the people that do pay for NX make the game free for the rest of you to even have the game to play? Yes. It sure does. Without our spending, this MapleStory fansite forum wouldn't even be here for you to have an opinion on the matter to begin with.

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chillbro

@MissTink021
way to stay on topic talking about society your thread is bad and you should feel bad whatever you like it or not there are people who can easily afford the 160$ jesus, nexon isnt here just to please you personally im done wasting my time you know the facts its best to just deal with it

"educated guess" lol whatever you say carry on you clearly an expert my mistake

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
MissTink021

[quote=chillbro]Are you stupid? you dont know for sure what age ratio in maple is and it is possible to have rich parents with unlimited fund

people spend 300$ cubing 1 piece of item and theres enough rich adults to warrant putting 160$ item on cash shop if this doesnt still make any sense to you its because your balls havnt dropped and you cant grasp reality that there are rich people out there

sorry that you think everyone playing maplestory is 12 year old with 20$ budget silly fool[/quote]

Wow........This is how you talk to people, society is so sad now-a-days. Just because parents are rich doesn't mean they give their kids money to spend on a silly game. Im pretty sure MOST parents now wantt to know what their kids are buying for 160$ or whatever.

And I know how much money people put into this game, and I think it frivolous. Especially when prices on actual food, clothes, gas ect. in the real world (Which you have probably never experienced yet) are going up, the value of the dollar is going down pretty soon it will be worth nothing. So yeah, I think its stupid for Nexon to price items the way they do.

Oh, and dont talk to me like that. I am entitled to my opinion just like everyone else who plays this game, if you cant comment or debate without saying things like "your balls havent dropped yet" then i'm sorry but you are obviously to immature to discuss anything rationally or logically.

EDIT: I was giving an estimate of the ages in maple, using logic from talking to people. Its called an educated guess.

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Palaladin

diz compeny noxen is obvius scem i no liek em they compenys n33ne to bur1n in h311. w1z3t is #1 b4yl1f3 s1nc3 bb g4m3 get b4d turn into pay2 be n0rma1 j4j4j4?.

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
chillbro

[quote=MissTink021]
@ Chilbro- I feel like this game is geared towards anyone who is less than 25 years old, first of all what kid has that kind of money to spend on something so stupid, and what kind of parent would just hand over 160$ to their kid for an online game? I mean seriously, your post makes no sense.[/quote]
Edit: Sorry if my posts were harsh but thats only cause you were hostile

you dont know for sure what age ratio in maple is and it is possible to have rich parents with unlimited fund

people spend 300$ cubing 1 piece of item and theres enough rich adults to warrant putting 160$ item on cash shop if this doesnt still make any sense to you its because your balls havnt dropped and you cant grasp reality that there are rich people out there

sorry that you think everyone playing maplestory is 12 years old with 20$ budget silly rabbit

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
MissTink021

[quote=guertena]It's because we people who buy NX that keep this game running, so people like you can play for free. (You shouldn't complain)
It isn't needed for you to buy anything from CS, only if you want to be better will you need to pay.[/quote]

"Only if you want to be better will you need to pay" .... "You shouldn't complain" .... "People like you can play for free"

......

Where do I begin... First of all, I have never bought anything to "be better" I earn everything myself, I spend my time grinding, lvling, and farming my own mesos/items whatever like you are supposed to do. I will occasionally buy 2x exp cards or 2x drop cards if I want to lvl faster or whatever. So I have a right to "compain" if I want to about Nexon or prices. I have supported this game for over 5 years, I am now 24 years old, married, and working at a hospital earning MY own money.... If I like Nexon is unfair I have a right to say so.

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
OrionTempest

Maple's not "Pay2Win" until they charge admission to the Black Mage boss. People just say it is because they want to compete with paying members, but are too lazy or impatient to participate in events or use game mechanics to improve their characters (outside of leveling).

And I know I'm going to get flamed by Nexon haters and people who think everything should just be handed to them for signing in, but whatever.

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
doc

How does someone having max inventory slots effect YOUR game play at all? They're offering it to people who collect things, because if you bought 8 slots, for 6.4k nx each, it'd be way more money spent than if you buy this giant package. When does someone being able to hold 96 equips/use/etc items get a better benefit than you, holding maybe 24 items? Let the hoarders become hoarders, the collectors be collectors, and you do your own thing. You're not forced to buy a single item in the cash shop and people who have the money in real life to pay for it, let them spend it their way. Don't complain if you don't have the money because getting a part time job is just as easy, and you get more than you ask for when you do.

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
Business

This thread is stupid. If you count all the prices of extra space inventory, it would be around 200-300k nx cash? Nobody ever complained about that, now its only 'insane' because its an big number. You get like 30% cheaper.

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
guertena

It's because we people who buy NX that keep this game running, so people like you can play for free. (You shouldn't complain)
It isn't needed for you to buy anything from CS, only if you want to be better will you need to pay.

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OrionTempest

[quote=BurritoMan]I think the fact that cash shop items [url=http://orangemushroom.wordpress.com/2013/01/02/kms-ver-1-2-183-the-ultimate-weapon-xenon/]now have stats[/url] shows more imbalance than this does.[/quote]

Eh, I've seen worse in other games and people didn't whine about it. It even had %Boss on Cash Equips there.

Also, we have CS equips with stats already, just things like +30 Defense and +10 Speed though.

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
Zeepje

Ah, so they released an NX item that's worth 150 bucks? GG Nexon!

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
puretppc

Move Nexon to Canada please!

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
Ouhai

Eh, why pay for it when I'm getting free ones right now?

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
OrionTempest

I really don't see what the big deal about the slot expansions is. It's not like it hurts you if someone else decided to buy that instead of spending $300+ on the individual slots.

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MissTink021

[quote=Mechace117]Well, Nexon sells many things in their cash shops which gives players alot of incentive to buy since it gives them a huge advantage. To this end, it allows the game to remain free to play technically...[/quote]

I understand this, but $160 for a one thing, on a game? Really? Thats logical to you?

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Mechace117

Well, Nexon sells many things in their cash shops which gives players alot of incentive to buy since it gives them a huge advantage. To this end, it allows the game to remain free to play technically...

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MissTink021

Wow... after reading these comments I have realized that the Maple community is declining fast.

@ Chilbro- I feel like this game is geared towards anyone who is less than 25 years old, first of all what kid has that kind of money to spend on something so stupid, and what kind of parent would just hand over 160$ to their kid for an online game? I mean seriously, your post makes no sense.

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
chillbro

Look at it this way someone pays 1$ milion IRL for a watch sure its silly price but to those that are really rich its worth it you do not have to buy items they put up for 160k they put it up for rich people who swim in cash and dont mind 160$ price tag its simple as that if its too high of a price dont buy it i'm sure someone else will
/thread

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
DuZo

Buying inventory wouldn't really make you stronger so it doesn't apply on the "pay to win" thing.

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
Cutout

they only put them up because people buy them.

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
Skyenets

They put them on sale a lot and they give them out for free every now and then. It's not like you really NEED to buy them anyway.

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
Brianfofian

Nexon: "This to all of my hatin' hoes that seeing me gettin' guap right now
Seeing me gettin' guap right now, heII yeah, I won't stop right now"

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
RisingRain

You've probably never bought slots before, have you? It's like 6.4k for 8 (and it even used to be 4k for 4!), and now they're offering max slots for 40k? If I wanted to buy slots, now would be the time.

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
RhythmKiller

[quote=UltraLudde]Why would you need max slots?[/quote]

People that collect or merch stuff like chairs/equips/etc. already bought all expansions (they needed) separately.

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
Ace987

[quote=UltraLudde]Why would you need max slots?[/quote]
Collecting chairs. It's serious business.

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
jh92

It's not like they are forcing you to pay for max slots.

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13e4n3r

i don't see how having max inventory makes you win at the game. It's probably a joke for them anyways. As far as i know, they didn't even bother to advertise it on the site so it's not like they are pressuring you to buy it like they did with hyper tele rock(perm).

Reply February 13, 2013 - edited
UltraLudde

Why would you need max slots?

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