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People these days complaining about complainers

Warning, this will be long, very long. If you won't read it don't post.
EDIT: Title messed up, I am complaining about the complainers describing what I'm tired of below.
EDIT 2: Grammatical errors I found, class specific skills moved.
EDIT 3: More skill updates

Why is it that no one understands how spoiled we are today as maplers. We get this exp curve that makes things CRAZY easy to level, we get maps like the ones in NLC, LHC, and Stronghold an we ALWAYS have something to complain about. You complain about the way people act at popular maps yet you refuse to go somewhere else. 220 exp per kill at scarecrows at level 50, rivaled by level 60 monsters. 1350 exp on a level 70 monsters, rivaled by level 90 monsters. 3000 exp per kill on level 95 monsters, rivaled by lvl 140 monsters. This is absolutely insane. And you wonder why people don't do pq's anymore, we are spoiled by these maps. We get 2x exp/drop events every few weeks or so. 2x exp as often as we get is crazy. That 3x exp event. ABSURD. And now people complain about stuff being too easy. Make up your frickin minds or shut up. Nexon tries to please us by making it easier to level because we complained about it being so hard before. And you still aren't pleased. Azwan comes out, it's hard. People complain again. We complain about Nexon not doing anything about hackers when in reality they have ALWAYS been doing stuff. It has just never been publicized like it is now. Complaining about Nexon isn't what you should be doing. The people that make the hacks are the ones you should complain to... IF you are going to complain in the first place.

We want revamps, we get revamps, we complain. Classes get nerfed, we complain more because they got nerfed "too hard". New classes come out and they're OP, we complain. IT HAPPENS EVERY TIME. GET OVER IT ALREADY. But you fail to realize that this is making it easier for unfunded people. That's what people want, right? Or wrong? I don't know what you people want anymore. You complain about classes not being 100% balanced. GET OVER IT. Play the class that you want because you like it. Stop worrying so much about damage. Sure explorers need a few tweaks, but full on revamps? No thanks, that would take the originality out of them. Speaking of originality, you complain about classes not having it. But if you were to really go down the line you would see that all classes are still unique. Shared skill are to"balance" the classes out. That's what you want right? But yet you still complain about it.

We are never ok with anything Nexon does. A new Game Update comes and it doesn't come out flawless. We complain more. We complain about updates being extended. There are bugs after, we complain about them. seriously, if you knew how hard it was to code a game to work like this you would understand. It's pretty hard to make it come out perfect. We get butthurt over Nexon as a company when in reality most every company works the same way. When there are opportunities to make lots of money, they take it. Think of Apple. They have a product released, a few months later they make a new version that's slightly different. And yet people still go buying apple products and never complain about anything. You never hear anyone complaining about Apple and how they work. Why bash Nexon? They do the same exact thing. You people are ridiculous.

You want new places to explore, well guess what. I can guarantee that you would get bored soon. Why make something else to explore when no one uses most of Maple World now? You'll just get bored, again. Very very soon. That is unless they make another world just as big as the current Maple World. But then again that would probably cause more problems because of the lack of originality because this "new world" would be based on some aspects of something else. But what you apparently fail to realize is that EVERYTHING IS BASED OFF OF SOMETHING ELSE. EVERYTHING. That's how video games progress, that's how technology progresses. That's life. You take aspects of one thing and change it to create something else.

Class Originality:
Archers: Arrow Rain/Eruption
Bowmaster: Sharp Eyes, Phoenix.
Marksman: Ultimate Strafe, Sharp Eyes, Piercing Arrow, Snipe, Frostprey.
Wild Hunter: Jaguar, Jaguar based skills.
Mercedes: The whole combo system based off of Rising Rush.
Wind Archer: The Eagle Eye trasformation. Wind piercing and Wind Shot.

Mages: Teleport/Teleport Mastery
Fire/Poison: DoT's, Ifrit, Paralyze, Explosion.
Ice/Lightning: Chain Lighting, Ice Strike, Elquines, Glacial Chain (iffy).
Bishop: Heal, Bless, Resurrection, Dispel, Bahamut, Mystic Door, Doom.
Evan: Dragon Based, Elemental Skills, Lots of range, Fast attacks.
Battle Mage: Aura's, melee magic attacker, Tornado Spin, Reaper Summon, Dark Shock, Dark Chains(iffy), Conversion.
Blaze Wizard: Flame Gear, Ifrit.

Warriors:
Hero: Combo Attacks, Panic, Coma, Shout, Magic Crash, Power Reflection, Rage.
Dark Knight: Dragon Buster, Crusher, Dragon Roar, Berserk, Dark Impale, Beholder Hex's, Sacrifice, Hyper Body.
Paladin: Heavily Defensive Skills, Elemental Charges, Charged Blows, Combat Orders, Threaten, Power Guard.
Aran: Combo system.
Demon Slayer: Fury based system, Leech Aura, Mobility with the Demon Slayer Wings.
Dawn Warrior: Soul Driver, Soul Blade.

Thieves: Dark Sight/Haste
Night Lord: Star-based system.
Shadower: Meso-Based skills, Assassinate, Boomerang Step, Shadower's Instinct, Savage Blow.
Phantom: Stealing Skills, Crit rate based, Card system, High avoid rate.
Dual Master: I honestly don't know. I refuse to play them. I hate the playstyle.
Night Walker: Vampire, Poison Bomb.

Pirates: Roll of the Dice
Buccaneer: Speed Infusion, Energy System, I-frames.
Corsair: Wings, Octopus and Crew Summons, Sudden Raid (Octo skill, Idk the English name).
Cannoneer: Cannon, Cannon Spike, Monkey Madness, Monkey Magic, Barrel Roulette, Monkey Wave.
Mechanic: Robot, Bots N Tots, Seige Mode, Magnetic Field, Open Portal, Multiple Summons.
Thunder Breaker: Sharkwave, Enery System, Sparks.
Jett: Jett sucks, Copy/Paste of the Pirate revamp skills

Fairly certain I covered all of the classes. If not oh well. You see my point. All classes have originality, and this is skills only.

Please stop complaining about things. Yes this is a QQ thread. Yes this is a thread complaining about complainers. I don't care what you think. But seriously. If you hate this game so much stop playing it. This game isn't going to be perfect. Stop expecting it to be, classes get balanced by sharing skills, you complain but yet you want balancing. This behavior is absolutely insane, stupid, and just pointless. I'm sure most of you have been around long enough to understand what happens, if not well you now know. You complain so much about this game and we get spoiled as much as we do. Either get over it or stop playing. I'm tired of people complaining about the same thing over and over again. Learn the cycle and shut up about it. YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO BE 100% SATISFIED WITH THE GAME. STOP EXPECTING TO BE. STOP EXPECTING EVERYTHING TO BE PERFECT. IT ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN.

Please note that this is NOT directed at every single basil/mapler. Just those that complain about everything. And expect this to be a perfect game.

August 19, 2012

10 Comments • Newest first

TwinTurbine

[quote=PiplupStar]@TwinTurbine Light Reflection is a Luminous skill with a huge range and is like Chain Lightning, except ever hit is weaker than the previous. And the revamp for them is two months before Tempest.

Also in terms of uniqueness you should think of stuff like playstyle such
Hero: Orbs, High DPS Warrior, Highest HP
Paladin: Tank, Elemental Charges, Combat Orders, Excels at Von Leon,
Dark Knight: HP use with Sac, Earliest ultimate, Hyper body
Aran: Combo System
Demon Slayer: Mobile Warrior, Demon Force, Mobbing capabilities
Mikhail: Warrior class with Lazers lol
Kaiser: Transformation stages

I/L: Chain Lightning
F/P: DoT usage and Stacking DoT
Bishop: Support class, Party buffs, Support, Door, Doom, Dispel
Evan: Many elemental skills, Dragon, Fast hitting skills
BaM: Auras, Melee mage, Bulky, Invincibility, Support class
Luminous: Light/Dark change, Equilibrium state

BM: Haven't played it yet
MM: Piercing Arrow (Used to be known as Cap breaking skill that hits hard), Snipe, US
WH: Mount class along with Mech, Jaguar, Close and ranged attackers
Mercedes: Chain combo with RR, Fast and Mobile

Night Lord: Throwing stars, Quad Throw
Shadower: Meso skills, Tanky Theif, Shadower Instinct and Nate/Use of Dark sight and Killing Points
DB: High Avoid, First class with secondary weapon. Also has attack on Katara as opposed to cards
Phantom: Skill Steal, Carte and Judgement, Chaining moves, Crit

Bucc: Energy Charging, SI, iFrames
Corsair: Summons, Hard hitting class, More mobile/fast attacking Pirate class
Mech: Summons (5 I think), Ultimate that can break cap, Portal
Cannoneers: Anchor, Barrel Roulette, Insane storage space
Jett: Fast class
Angelic Burster: Ability to break cap, Recharge system, Button mashing for Trinity, Hammer+Falling Star combo[/quote]

I'm not going into the newer classes yet. That's just even more originality, and I don't know much about them xD. And as for class playing styles... I didn't include that purely because then you can't argue against class originality. It adds too much more. I only said that for Pally's because they have so many skills that involve defensive tankiness and I didn't feel like naming them all. But you do provide good points, I'll edit the original post a bit more.

Reply August 19, 2012
TwinTurbine

[quote=ClassOf12]PQs are good exp/willpower/decent rewards. Lots of people still PQ

They dont do enough. WHats wrong with complaining about this? If all of us didnt complain Nexon wouldnt do a damn thing about it

Nope. I would be happy for the revamps to end with Mutiny but I know that isnt gonna happen. Im happy with all of my classes and dont really care about balance unless its excessively bad. I want more content.....

And complaining about these is how the community gets Nexon to notice these bugs now Tespia is under

Why shouldnt these get added in and why are you assuming we would get bored of them?

I just want the game to improve[/quote]

The game is improving. Constantly. I'm not assuming we would get bored of new places. It will happen, no if ands or buts about it. People are bored of places on Maple Island, they're bound to get bored of newly added maps. Complaining about the bugs to the extent people do is insane. All that is necessary is "Hey, magic attacks seem to be hitting max damage randomly. Can you fix this?". Not a billion thread QQing about how Nexon sucks and this game was better in the past. And we really don't need any more revamps. Just tweaks in classes. But there are lots of people that are still asking for them. And what are they going to do to sites that publicize hacks and the people who created BT. It's a tough process trying to ban every single hacker in the game. Nexon knows they exist, they have known for years. And again, the complaining has gotten out of hand. And saying people don't pq at all anymore is an exaggeration. They do, just not nearly as much as before.

@PiplupStar:
You're right about the Hurricane thing, I should probably change that however I still say the Mech should stay. It is different in a way. But any Jett skill for my is disregarded. Jett is a cop/paste of many skills. And Light Reflection? What? As for the Tornado Spin, it is still a unique skill for gMS. Tempest wont be for a while. Glacial and Dark Chains yea, I guess you're right there. But the way the class utilizes the skill is different even though they do the same thing. Plus Glacial Chain hits more. They're still considered unique for me. As for the class specifics, I'll change that, put it next to the group (archer, mage etc.) and not the class

Reply August 19, 2012 - edited
ClassOf12

[quote=TwinTurbine]people dont do pqs anymore[/quote]
PQs are good exp/willpower/decent rewards. Lots of people still PQ

[quote=TwinTurbine]Nexon does stuff about hacking[/quote]
They dont do enough. WHats wrong with complaining about this? If all of us didnt complain Nexon wouldnt do a damn thing about it

[quote=TwinTurbine]We want revamps[/quote]
Nope. I would be happy for the revamps to end with Mutiny but I know that isnt gonna happen. Im happy with all of my classes and dont really care about balance unless its excessively bad. I want more content.....

[quote=TwinTurbine]Bugs after content[/quote]
And complaining about these is how the community gets Nexon to notice these bugs now Tespia is under

[quote=TwinTurbine]Bored of new places to explore[/quote]
Why shouldnt these get added in and why are you assuming we would get bored of them?

[quote=TwinTurbine]Stop expecting everything to be perfect[/quote]
I just want the game to improve

Reply August 19, 2012 - edited
envenomed

That's why when a content/event I don't like I simply choose to not do it. It's not like it will affect me if I don't do it.

Reply August 19, 2012 - edited
envenomed

@TwinTurbine: Yeah, Nexon can't please everyone. Those who don't like content just suck it up and move on or quit.

Reply August 19, 2012 - edited
TwinTurbine

[quote=envenomed]Danger: Wall text.

OT: True. But hell, summarize it![/quote]

It's kinda summarized in the last paragraph. But I warned people sooo yea... You could always just skim it to find the main points.

@Amped:
Classes still contain lots of originality. If you can't see it I don't know what to say.

@cr380rjr:
Yes I know, it is hypocritical, I admitted to it. But I meant that I was complaining about the complainers. And it's people expecting this to be perfect in every aspect of the game, It's not going to happen that way and it needs to be accepted.

@RiceTastesGood:
My logic, people expect everything about this game to be perfect. It's created by people. People aren't perfect. There are going to be flaws and people need to accept that. When they don't they get upset and come on basil to complain. If people stop expecting everything to be perfect then everything would be fine.

Reply August 19, 2012 - edited
melonmel

I read it all. I freaking agree with you 100%.

MAPLERS MAKE UP YOUR MIND.

Reply August 19, 2012 - edited
JeffieAran

[url=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2337749/0/Why_do_people_rage_over_Everything_Nexon_does.html]Made this similar thread a few months ago.[/url]

Edit: not that similar, after I read your thread

Reply August 19, 2012 - edited
Amped

Skimmed. There is very little class originality anymore.

Reply August 19, 2012 - edited
envenomed

Danger: Wall text.

OT: True. But hell, summarize it!

Reply August 19, 2012 - edited