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Mercedes hard to fund?

i've never really cared about damage in my 5 years of playing but after trying mercedes i wanna make her as strong as i can since i just effin love it

so anyways, people have been telling me that mercs need a lot of funding to be above average and i was wondering if that's true or not

also what equips should i be aiming for with around 600m?

February 4, 2013

15 Comments • Newest first

gamemage3

mercedes are the cheapest to fund because they use bowman equips which are the cheapest

but they are the worst dps in the game if extremely funded due to cap rising to 50m and terrible interaction between total% damage and boss damage from equips and skills

Anyways for around 12b or something, I have around 120% dex and 130 att clean empress dbg with 160k range buffed

Reply February 5, 2013
SaneleeBoring

[quote=QuantumLegend]Well I've about 10 bil worth of equips on my merc, around 80%dex and a 175att bowgun and have about a 70k self-buffed range (MW10).
I'm bored so I'll list my items for you.
Hot time tiara 5att 6%dex
4att rudolph nose
summer goggles 1att 2%dex
top 5%
bot 5%
17%dex cape
So gong gloves
belt 18%dex
MoN
crusade pendant 6%
rex earrings 18%
bowgun 175att (total dmg 9%, Att 9%)
arrows 12att
evo rings 2 & 3, legend gratias ring, AB ring
2att shoulder
Not wearing shoes....lol[/quote]

what your range and level?

Reply February 5, 2013
QuantumLegend

Well I've about 10 bil worth of equips on my merc, around 80%dex and a 175att bowgun and have about a 70k self-buffed range (MW10).
I'm bored so I'll list my items for you.
Hot time tiara 5att 6%dex
4att rudolph nose
summer goggles 1att 2%dex
top 5%
bot 5%
17%dex cape
So gong gloves
belt 18%dex
MoN
crusade pendant 6%
rex earrings 18%
bowgun 175att (total dmg 9%, Att 9%)
arrows 12att
evo rings 2 & 3, legend gratias ring, AB ring
2att shoulder
Not wearing shoes....lol

Reply February 5, 2013
SaneleeBoring

[quote=hardballer]4 Piece Empress should cost you under 75m regardless of world. This includes armor, not weapon, not cape.
Depending on your world and the attack of the DBG you desire, it could cost you anywhere from 75m (like 125 att) to a few bil (scrolled/cubed). A 132 DBG clean could cost anywhere from 200-450 in Broa. I'd reckon it's around the same everywhere except the newest worlds.
Cape could cost you up to 1.7b if you buy it. I made my own and minus the costs of mastering smithing, it cost me only ~900m, significantly cheaper than buying one.

After these pieces, the best things are decent % items. 12% Earrings are around 400-600. 9% are around 150-200m, and 6% are like 15 or less. An elite heliseum belt is a few hundred mil, or the 233 coins. 6% Belts could go up to like 200m or more depending on the normal factors (World, stats, lines). 3% is a lot less. In broa, I have seen 6% pendants for up to 200m, if you dont care whether or not your pendants base stats are good, a random 6% pendant might be the best option for you. 6% Tempest shoulder could cost up to 600m. I've seen them for 400 (epic) and as low as 300 (rare). 3% are around 150m, not as bad. 6% Temp Rings are around 300m and 3% are like 50 or less. 9% Rings are around 900m and 9% shoulders are like 1.2b easy. A decent arrow, imo, would be 30% boss and unique, around 1.5b. I'd worry about that later though. Oh, I should note that 15% earrings are around 1.5b

Basically what I'm saying is, after spending around 1.5b on 6/6 clean empress, getting the % gear could cost anywhere between like 50m and like 3b. 50m would obviously be very minimal items with 4% or less, and 3b would be 6-12%[/quote]

damn thanks for the detailed answer, really helped

Reply February 5, 2013 - edited
hardballer

4 Piece Empress should cost you under 75m regardless of world. This includes armor, not weapon, not cape.
Depending on your world and the attack of the DBG you desire, it could cost you anywhere from 75m (like 125 att) to a few bil (scrolled/cubed). A 132 DBG clean could cost anywhere from 200-450 in Broa. I'd reckon it's around the same everywhere except the newest worlds.
Cape could cost you up to 1.7b if you buy it. I made my own and minus the costs of mastering smithing, it cost me only ~900m, significantly cheaper than buying one.

After these pieces, the best things are decent % items. 12% Earrings are around 400-600. 9% are around 150-200m, and 6% are like 15 or less. An elite heliseum belt is a few hundred mil, or the 233 coins. 6% Belts could go up to like 200m or more depending on the normal factors (World, stats, lines). 3% is a lot less. In broa, I have seen 6% pendants for up to 200m, if you dont care whether or not your pendants base stats are good, a random 6% pendant might be the best option for you. 6% Tempest shoulder could cost up to 600m. I've seen them for 400 (epic) and as low as 300 (rare). 3% are around 150m, not as bad. 6% Temp Rings are around 300m and 3% are like 50 or less. 9% Rings are around 900m and 9% shoulders are like 1.2b easy. A decent arrow, imo, would be 30% boss and unique, around 1.5b. I'd worry about that later though. Oh, I should note that 15% earrings are around 1.5b

Basically what I'm saying is, after spending around 1.5b on 6/6 clean empress, getting the % gear could cost anywhere between like 50m and like 3b. 50m would obviously be very minimal items with 4% or less, and 3b would be 6-12%

Reply February 5, 2013 - edited
ImaHooka

If you're lucky, and find a good empress dbg, you might be able to get a clean empress set minus the cape. I managed to find my avg clean dbg for 300m 2 weeks ago. You may also want to fuse some equips with the alchemy system to get some % equips.

Reply February 5, 2013 - edited
Mechace117

Capping ish ring lines is nearly an impossible thing to do without a bunch of funding. Mercedes does require more funding than other archer classes, but dex equips have gone cheaper lately.

Reply February 5, 2013 - edited
Auricular

I wouldn't say we are that hard to fund. %dex equips are fairly cheap and easy to come by. The problem is that our damage isn't the greatest, meaning we probably require a bit more %dex than other classes.

Reply February 5, 2013 - edited
Chris949

Unless you're trying to cap with Ishtar's Ring then Mercedes shouldn't be that bad. Fairly high %damage skills and great support game with AW, AFA, IR, etc. I prob would've made an effort at funding one but with cap being raised I'll stick with my MM.

Reply February 5, 2013 - edited
QuantumLegend

[quote=SaneleeBoring]are empress equips affordable with 600m in scania since everything is inflated here? i just came back from a long break too so i have no idea what the price ranges are

@above: damn thanks for reminding me about how you can potential your arrows, totally forgot about that. i'd probably be making my own arrows since i have nx so hopefully i wouldn't need to buy one[/quote]

No idea on Scania prices sorry

Reply February 5, 2013 - edited
SaneleeBoring

[quote=QuantumLegend]I do hear we're hard to fund, but I just go at it, collecting money and merching over time I don't care about leveling as much and I really love this class too.
Equips, just 2% or 6% things I guess. But I do recommend just making more money over time from merching or something. Then you can continuously upgrade.
Maybe 9% ears ~100mil
8% shoes ~200-300
4% top ~ 20 mil
4% bot ~ 20mil
And spend the rest on evo rings or something for now or merch with it.

Edit: Oh I totally forgot about empress. If you plan to eventually get up to several bil in funds I'd go with % equips. Otherwise Empress would probably be best for average funding.[/quote]

are empress equips affordable with 600m in scania since everything is inflated here? i just came back from a long break too so i have no idea what the price ranges are

@above: damn thanks for reminding me about how you can potential your arrows, totally forgot about that. i'd probably be making my own arrows since i have nx so hopefully i wouldn't need to buy one

Reply February 5, 2013 - edited
reverexx2

Here in CYMK, Empress DBGs are now roughly 500m at the most, as opposed to 1b just a few months ago.
I think that the most expensive thing is going to be potential arrows. It is so hard to find one in the CYMK markets.

Reply February 5, 2013 - edited
QuantumLegend

I do hear we're hard to fund, but I just go at it, collecting money and merching over time I don't care about leveling as much and I really love this class too.
Equips, just 2% or 6% things I guess. But I do recommend just making more money over time from merching or something. Then you can continuously upgrade.
Maybe 9% ears ~100mil
8% shoes ~200-300
4% top ~ 20 mil
4% bot ~ 20mil
And spend the rest on evo rings or something for now or merch with it.

Edit: Oh I totally forgot about empress. If you plan to eventually get up to several bil in funds I'd go with % equips. Otherwise Empress would probably be best for average funding.

Reply February 5, 2013 - edited
mintychalk

Clean Empress Bowman is some of the cheapest gear in the fm not counting cape and weapon.
Cheapest overall would therefore go to thieves probably.

Reply February 5, 2013 - edited