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So after the nerfs?

Mage Forum Talk about Magician

kinsok Level 145 Scania Luminous 4
What mage will be able to solo cvel the easiest after the elemental reset changes and nerfs to the i/ls and f/ps? is my best bet just saving my %int for kinesis or is bishop a new contender with the telecast change?
Posted: September 2015 Permalink

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sabspirit Level 201 Scania Beast Tamer Cat
Any mage except Beast tamer
Sep 20 2015
natty2 Level 225 Broa Bishop Nimbus Guild See what games, anime & art natty2 is intonatty2
F/p are best.[/quote]

While the are relatively good, after the nerf...
Losing 90% element reset, reduction of ALL DoTs durations, and now Mist eruption not fully resetting cooldown...

Out of the explorers, Bishop is most probably the best one, earning telecast, and being able to act without turning off VoA,
AND having MUCH LESS delays after each cast...

the "nerf" to bishops is only getting measly cooldown on Heal and Dispel, both of which are never used, if not once every week at the most.

Bishop is probably going to be outclasses only by Luminous and BW.

When wer'e talking CVEL wer'e talking telecast, wer'e talking 1V1 skills, boss damage, and PDR.

You would probably want to be a Luminous, or a bishop,
Sep 20 2015
sabspirit Level 201 Scania Beast Tamer Cat
While the are relatively good, after the nerf...
Losing 90% element reset, reduction of ALL DoTs durations, and now Mist eruption not fully resetting cooldown...

Out of the explorers, Bishop is most probably the best one, earning telecast, and being able to act without turning off VoA,
AND having MUCH LESS delays after each cast...

the "nerf" to bishops is only getting measly cooldown on Heal and Dispel, both of which are never used, if not once every week at the most.

Bishop is probably going to be outclasses only by Luminous and BW.

When wer'e talking CVEL wer'e talking telecast, wer'e talking 1V1 skills, boss damage, and PDR.

You would probably want to be a Luminous, or a bishop,[/quote]

Tbh revamped kanna will be better then Bishop at bossing, and I believe Evan will outclass Bishop too.
So Bishop is still a really good bossing class but there are a few mages (I.e. kanna, Evan and blaze wizard) who still perform better in the end.
Sep 20 2015
While the are relatively good, after the nerf...
Losing 90% element reset, reduction of ALL DoTs durations, and now Mist eruption not fully resetting cooldown...[/quote]

elemental reset:
f/p: 10% (Elemental Decrease)
bishop: 10% (VoA)

final damage:
f/p: 40% (Elemental Decrease)
bishop: 40% (15% bahamut + 25% VoA)

skill %damage:
f/p: 250% (Paralyze)
bishop: 365% (Angel Ray)

max attack speed:
f/p: stage 1
bishop: stage 0

attack count:
f/p: 7 lines (Paralyze)
bishop: 8 lines (Angel Ray + VoA)

damage cap:
f/p: 50m (Paralyze)
bishop: 55m (Angel Ray + VoA)

total damage:
f/p: 25% (Fervent Drain)
bishop: 5%(solo)-30%(full party) (Blessed Harmony)

%magic attack:
f/p: 50% (Element Amplification)
bishop: 0%

365%x8 v.s. 250%x7 plus one stage faster... 50%matk isn't gonna make up for it, l0l
Sep 20 2015
chiprel Level 220 Bera F/P Arch Mage
@archm0onl, I think F/P's can actually get down to attack speed 0 (booster, IA, green pot, DSI). Also, the 50% matk should actually be 40% final damage, which is a separate multiplier from %boss/total and %matk. But yea, the FP nerfs is pretty rough, although I've heard rumors(not too reliable) that DoT might be affected by %matk/%total/%boss after the patch, which would make up for everything.
Sep 20 2015
natty2 Level 225 Broa Bishop Nimbus Guild See what games, anime & art natty2 is intonatty2
elemental reset:
f/p: 10% (Elemental Decrease)
bishop: 10% (VoA)

final damage:
f/p: 40% (Elemental Decrease)
bishop: 40% (15% bahamut + 25% VoA)

skill %damage:
f/p: 250% (Paralyze)
bishop: 365% (Angel Ray)

max attack speed:
f/p: stage 1
bishop: stage 0

attack count:
f/p: 7 lines (Paralyze)
bishop: 8 lines (Angel Ray + VoA)

damage cap:
f/p: 50m (Paralyze)
bishop: 55m (Angel Ray + VoA)

total damage:
f/p: 25% (Fervent Drain)
bishop: 5%(solo)-30%(full party) (Blessed Harmony)

%magic attack:
f/p: 50% (Element Amplification)
bishop: 0%

365%x8 v.s. 250%x7 plus one stage faster... 50%matk isn't gonna make up for it, l0l[/quote]

Yeah, so you agree with me
Sep 20 2015
akatsukidark Level 250 Windia Bishop Memories Guild
@archm0onl, I think F/P's can actually get down to attack speed 0 (booster, IA, green pot, DSI). Also, the 50% matk should actually be 50% final damage, which is a separate multiplier from %boss/total and %matk. But yea, the FP nerfs is pretty rough, although I've heard rumors(not too reliable) that DoT might be affected by %matk/%total/%boss after the patch, which would make up for everything.[/quote]

F/Ps can't. Default casting speed is (6) normal for mages, then you have the following speed modifiers: booster (-2), dSI (-1), +1 IA (-1), MPE (-1). You'll be down to (1) stage speed at most.
Sep 20 2015
chiprel Level 220 Bera F/P Arch Mage
F/Ps can't. Default casting speed is (6) normal for mages, then you have the following speed modifiers: booster (-2), dSI (-1), +1 IA (-1), MPE (-1). You'll be down to (1) stage speed at most.[/quote]
My bad then, I thought booster was -3.
Sep 20 2015
star909 Level 220 Windia Phantom 4
@chiprel :I haven't played F/P in a while so I can't confirm the 50% matt but I do know that they already took in your 40% final damage (yeah you get a little less than the other mages).
Sep 20 2015
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