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Mikhails Similarities Compilation

---Things to know about Mihile/Mikhail--
Mihile is considered a [b]CYGNUS KNIGHT[/b] character.
This means he gains [b]10% exp[/b] at every level up until 120.
Unless my research is wrong, he can get the Cygnus Mounts at level 50/100/120 just like the regular Cygnus.
When he reaches level 120 he CAN make an Ultimate Adventurer by doing the Peridot quests.
His character card is a Cygnus card that adds % Weapon Def.

[quote=WhinyBaby]But why should I make a Dawn Warrior if Mihile is out?[/quote]
Mihile was a [b]limited time only[/b] character in KMS. He'll most likely disappear from creation when we get to later content.

---First Job---
[b]HP Increase: Increase your max HP by 20% permanently. (max level: 10)[/b]
This is your warrior birth right. Every warrior deserves high HP.

[b]Soul Shield: Amplify the power of the Soul Shield to boost your defense and magic defense by 200. (max level: 15)[/b]
Comparable to Iron Body--something both Explorer Warriors and Dawn Warriors share.

[b]Soul Agility: Permanently increase accuracy by 200, speed by 25, and jump by 20.(max level: 10)[/b]
Exact same passive as Demon Slayer's "Shadow Swiftness".

[b]Soul Jump: Using the power of Soul, jump once again while in the air. As the skill level increase, the distance moved will increase. (max level: 10)[/b]
Cross-class Flash Jumping. Whee.

[b]Soul Blade: Give shape to Soul and throw it at up to 5 enemies for 340% damage. (max level: 20)[/b]
Everyone's favorite 2nd-job Dawn Warrior skill! It's actially slightly weaker than the DW's version. But only by 30%. Still quite OP for a 1st job skill.

----Second Job----
[b]Physical Training: Permanently increase your STR and DEX by 30. (max level: 10)[/b]
Once again a "Common Warrior" skill.

[b]Sword Mastery: Permanently increase your mastery over the one-handed sword by 50% as well as your accuracy by 120. (max level: 20)[/b]
Everyone's gotta have mastery, otherwise we'd be beginners.

[b]Final Attack: There is a 40% chance to add an extra 150% damage attack when using attack skills. Must be using a sword. (prerequisite: level 3 Sword Mastery) (max level: 20)[/b]
Common Warrior skill.

[b]Sword Booster: For 200 seconds, increase the speed of your sword by 2 stages. (prerequisite: level 5 Sword Mastery) (max level: 20)[/b]
And more common warrior!

[b]Rage: For 155 seconds, increase the weapon attack of you and your party by 30. (max level: 20)[/b]
Your first thought is "OMG YOU STOLE FROM FIGHTER!". But remember how Dawn Warrior's also have this? Yup. It's the Dawn Warrior animation, too. Do Fighters have it? Oh, of course. But it's already BEEN stolen by Dawn Warriors. It should have been expected.

[b]Soul Driver: Use Soul's power to attack up to 6 enemies for 145% damage 4 times. (max level: 20)[/b]
Hey look, it's a 3rd job Dawn Warrior's Troll Driver but weaker! Just like Soul Blade in 1st job, it's a full 35% weaker. And since it's four hits, that technically makes it 140% weaker per-cast than the DW/UA version. Still, it's a signature skill of the Dawn Warriors, it should have been expected.

[b]Shining Chase: A sword of light is pointed at the enemy and is rushed towards them, hitting 380% damage on up to 6 enemies pushing them back. (max level: 20)[/b]
A re-tweaking of the cross-class "Rush" variations. It doesn't seem to be directly copy-pasted. It's also stronger than Warrior-Rush and with a much lower mob-count.

----Third Job----
[b]Self Recovery: Every four seconds you will recover an extra 150 HP and 90 MP. This effect works during battle. (max level: 30)[/b]
A better version of Self Recovery that both Saders and Dawn Warrior's share.

[b]Intention: Permanently increase your strength by 40 and increase your attacking speed by one stage. (max level: 20)[/b]
Unique passive time? Could be a splicing of Mercedes'"Elven Grace" with Phantom's "Dexterous Training", but it's unique enough that you'd be really reaching deep for insults to complain.

[b]Soul Attack: When attacking an enemy inflicted with a status, increase your damage and critical chance by 20%. (max level: 20)[/b]
This is what happens if you increased the level cap of Demon Slayer's "Insult to Injury" to level 20.

[b]Soul Charge: For 300 seconds, charge your sword with power and increase your damage by 30%. (max level: 10)[/b]
Exact same as Dawn Warrior's "Soul Charge." Expected.

[b]Soul Endure: For 180 seconds, increase your defense by 100%, and your resistance to elements and statuses by 60%. (max level: 20)[/b]
Mikhail borrows another Demon Slayer skill "Black-Hearted Strength" stat-for-stat.

[b]Magic Crash: When used, there is a 100% chance that monsters around you will not be able to use buffs for 20 seconds. There is a cooldown of 60 seconds. (max level: 20)[/b]
Common Warrior Skill not worth crying about.

[b]Soul Slash: Quickly attack up to 4 enemies in front of you for 230% damage 3 times, with a 10% chance to stun for 4 seconds. (max level: 20)[/b]
Look kids! It's "Intrepid Slash"! Oh wait, no it's not. It has the damage of Lv 16 "Intrepid Slash" with a little 10% chance to Stun. 690% damage total. Except in the places where Brandish enjoys it's 20% Def ignore--it makes it look bad--and of course, gets trumphed by a Hero with Intrepid.

[b]Shining Buster: Release light to attack up to 6 enemies in front of you for 270% damage 3 times. (max level: 20)[/b]
Here it is, boys and girls, your first laser skill. Im going to cover laser skills at the end of the comparison.

----Fourth Job----
[b]Combat Mastery : When attacking monsters, 40% defense is ignored. (max level: 10)[/b]
This is the first copy-paste Hero-only skill that Mikhail has.

[b]Advanced Sword Mastery: Increase your mastery over the sword to 70%, as well as minimum critical damage by 15% and attack by 30. (prerequisite: level 20 Sword Mastery) (max level: 30)[/b]
Compare it to any other classes' "Advanced Mastery". Once again another similarity Mikhail has with Demon Slayer.

[b]Advanced Final Attack: Increases your attack by 30, accuracy by 10%, chance to activate Final Attack to 60%, and Final Attack's damage to 250% damage, Final Attack now hits twice. (prerequisite: level 20 Final Attack) (max level: 30)[/b]
OMG COPY HEROES AGAIN might be your first thought, but remember that other classes DO have AFA.

[b]Advanced Soul Shield: Improve the Soul Shield and permanently decrease damage taken by 20%. (prerequisite: level 15 Soul Shield) (max level: 30)[/b]
It's Achilles/Obsidian Skin. Remember when every warrior used to have it? Good times.

[b]Stance: For 300 seconds, there is a 95% chance that you will not be knocked back by enemies' attacks. (max level: 30)[/b]
Common Warrior Skill

[b] Maple Warrior: Increases you and your party's stats by 15% for 900 seconds. (max level: 30)[/b]
Common Fourth Job Skill

[b]Soul Rage: For 240 seconds, concentrate your attacks on one enemy and increase your damage by 60%, critical rate by 20%, minimum critical damage by 15%. All skills will hit only one monster while this skill is active. There is a cooldown of 300 seconds. (max level: 30)[/b]
Enrage without the need of orbs.

[b]Soul Assault: Attack an enemy in front of you for 290% damage four times with Soul imbued swords with a 10% chance to stun the enemy for 6 seconds. The last hit of Soul Assault will always be a critical. (max level: 30)[/b]
I can't think of a skill like this one at all. The last hit Crit is similar to Assassinate but the rest of the skill is completely different.

[b]Shining Blast: Shoot a strong light in front of you to attack up to 6 enemies for 380% damage four times. (max level: 30)[/b]
LAYZOR TIME

----A comparison of Pirate-Lasers versus Mikhail's Lasers----
Cannoneer's "Cannon Bazooka" is 600% twice to 6 enemies. or 1200% to 6.
Mech's "Laser Shot" is 500% three times to 8 enemies. or 1500% to 8--however you've gotta be in Tank Mode.
Bucc's "Bucc Blast" is 550% four times to 10 enemies or 2200% to 10--however you've gotta be Energy Charged.

Mikhail's "Shining Buster" is 270% damage three times to 6 enemies. or 810% to 6.
Mikhail's "Shining Blast" is 380% damage four times to 6 enemies. or 1520% to 6.

Slightly stronger than Mech's Laser, lower mob count, no "You have to be in "Blank" mode.
Dont forget that Cannons, Guns, and Knuckles have the best weapon multipliers in the game.
Mikhail's lasers are relatively balanced and dont just copy-paste from another pirate.

As far as speed:
[quote=iVege] Shining Buster > Laser Shot > Shining Blast > Cannon Bazooka > Buccaneer Blast [/quote]

Thank you for reading, I hope those of you who decide to play Mikhail can look past his similarities and enjoy him as much as I will be.

---Direct Skill Copies---

Common Warrior skills : 8 (HP Increase, Physical Training, Sword Mastery, Final Attack, Sword Booster, Magic Crash, Stance, Maple Warrior)
Hero unique skills : 2/3 (Combat Mastery, Soul Rage (Enrage). Three if you count Soul Slash (Lv 16 Intrepid Slash, but unlike IS has a chance to Stun)
Demon Slayer unique skills : 3 + the shield (Soul Agility(Shadow Swiftness), Soul Endure(Black-Hearted Strength), Advanced Soul Shield(Obsidian Skin/Achilles--used to be common 4th Warrior skill, now Pally/DS/Mihile share it))
Dawn Warrior unique skills : 3 (Soul Blade, Soul Driver, Soul Charge)

August 26, 2012

24 Comments • Newest first

GunDelHel

@IamSuspended:
Im gonna be honest with you, sometimes I forget that Pallys still have Achilles. Im like "Oh yeah! Achilles! Every Warrior has that! Oh wait..they changed that..who has it now? Uh..DS?..Ok, lets do that." I've tweaked the DS borrowed skills list a bit to fix that though. o.o

Reply August 29, 2012
AckarRed

[quote=Beagle]Whoop to Arans, who did not have any skills taken from them! Aran's need more love, not to be upstaged by every new warrior class to exist. Mihile is lame.[/quote]

Our CTRL based attack is now shared with Demon Slayer and Kaiser.
Kaiser has a buff that absorbs defense that works with party members too but it's easier to use.

And what do you mean we need more love? We've never been nerfed, ever, well not as bad as the other classes. Many of our buffs has helped us quite well from making our combos last longer from removing the split damage when attacking mobs. Plus, we have a Hyper Skill that actually makes Final Blow useful. As far as I'm concerned, we're well off.

Reply August 28, 2012 - edited
damudo01

[quote=KaySarkSwisz]jesus there is no Mikhile its only Mihile...[/quote]

Mikhail*

Do you say LKC instead of LHC?

Reply August 28, 2012 - edited
KaySarkSwisz

jesus there is no Mikhile its only Mihile...

Reply August 28, 2012 - edited
damudo01

[quote=GunDelHel]I was thinking that I read somewhere that he did--but now that I try to find where I read that, I can't. So Im editing that out and I'll put it back later if I'm wrong. I guess that would put him past 999 Str if he did, so he probably doesn't.

I'm sorry for the Aran sadness. If it makes you feel any better--Arans are really more of a Martial Artist than a hard plate-n-armor Tank Warrior. o.o[/quote]

I am pretty sure I read that they get 6 AP till level 70 as well. I will try finding it now and I'll edit the link to my post.
EDIT: Can't find a link about it saying this; just random people saying it, and I don't want to post that

Reply August 28, 2012 - edited
NovaCokeService

im going to make a guide. I started on my microsoft

Reply August 28, 2012 - edited
GunDelHel

[quote=magicsonic21]Wait are you sure Mikhail gets 6 ap till 70 because he goes to lvl 200 so he will have a lot more ap than all the other classes.

HP Increase: Sigh for Arans [/quote]

I was thinking that I read somewhere that he did--but now that I try to find where I read that, I can't. So Im editing that out and I'll put it back later if I'm wrong. I guess that would put him past 999 Str if he did, so he probably doesn't.

I'm sorry for the Aran sadness. If it makes you feel any better--Arans are really more of a Martial Artist than a hard plate-n-armor Tank Warrior. o.o

Reply August 28, 2012 - edited
GunDelHel

[quote=Dragontearz]Mikhail's very weak compared to hero, unless you got some insane funding, you're better off playing a hero, gotta realize hero's got combo % to factor in allowing them to hit max easier, but it's all preference really.[/quote]

I dont really think damage is all that important. Mihile's got mage-like range with his "magic"--and he's getting 30% Damage from Soul Charge, so he's doing more than Saders in 3rd. It isnt until ACA is maxed that Combo becomes the ultimate %damage difference between Hero and Mihile. Even then, Mihile's sheer range on his LAYZOR is more than enough to [i]have fun[/i]

Reply August 28, 2012 - edited
Dragontearz

Mikhail's very weak compared to hero, unless you got some insane funding, you're better off playing a hero, gotta realize hero's got combo % to factor in allowing them to hit max easier, but it's all preference really.

Reply August 28, 2012 - edited
GunDelHel

[quote=damudo01]@GunDelHel: Kind of off topic, but I was thinking about maining this class as well, since I loved my heroes and DWs, but am also thinking about maining a DS.
Seems like you know about both classes, since I had no idea about the DS similarities So since they are identical, which do you think is better in terms of fun.
Judging by the thread, seems like Mikhail is better in terms of damage.[/quote]

I didn't care for my DS all that much. Mostly because of how it took them until just recently to iron out [i]some[/i] of the bugs with x-box controllers. I didn't really feel that "All powerful" or "Mobile". I felt more like a thief with an axe.
Then again, with my Dawn Warrior I felt more like a Mage with a sword...and I'll probably feel that way with Mihile too.

Reply August 28, 2012 - edited
damudo01

@GunDelHel: Kind of off topic, but I was thinking about maining this class as well, since I loved my heroes and DWs, but am also thinking about maining a DS.
Seems like you know about both classes, since I had no idea about the DS similarities So since they are identical, which do you think is better in terms of fun.
Judging by the thread, seems like Mikhail is better in terms of damage.

Reply August 28, 2012 - edited
GunDelHel

[quote=iVege]@GunDelHel: Radiant Blast also has a shorter range.

You forgot to mention that Radiant Buster > Laser Blast > Radiant Blast > Cannon Bazooka > Buccaneer Blast in speed (at normal speed. There's always Booster, Speed Infusion, Reinforced Cannon, Intention and other stuff. Point is, you didn't factor in their speed ;>[b][/b])

Soul Blade isn't OP. The revamped Slash Blast (which comes right after Mihile) is almost as strong, just lacking in range.

Physical Training isn't a common warrior skill. The Magic Crash would have been a good thing if it had not been nerfed[/quote]

Thanks for the speed info, I'm definitely adding that to my laser section.
You're kind of right. Physical Training is a common skill to multiple classes; but every warrior branch has the 30 Str/Dex bonus from theirs. I suppose I could call it a common Warrior/Bowman skill, couldnt I? Nah, that's silly.

@lBishopXl:
Somewhat. It might be similar, but "Soul Attack" is [b]literally[/b] "Insult to Injury" with a higher level cap.
Lv 20 "Chance Attack" increases Damage (to stunned, blinded, frozen enemies) by 25%
Lv 15 "Insult to Injury" increases Damage to "abnormal status enemies" by 15%, Critical Rate: +15%.
Lv 20 "Soul Attack" increases Damage to "abnormal status enemies" by 20%, Critical Rate: +20%.

@Beagle:
Whilst I don't like you bashing my new main character, I do appreciate your enthusiasm for your class.

@damudo01:
We can only hope!

Reply August 28, 2012 - edited
damudo01

Anyone know if Mikhail will get hyper skills? o.o

Reply August 28, 2012 - edited
iVege

@GunDelHel: Radiant Blast also has a shorter range.

You forgot to mention that Radiant Buster > Laser Blast > Radiant Blast > Cannon Bazooka > Buccaneer Blast in speed (at normal speed. There's always Booster, Speed Infusion, Reinforced Cannon, Intention and other stuff. Point is, you didn't factor in their speed ;>[b][/b])

Soul Blade isn't OP. The revamped Slash Blast (which comes right after Mihile) is almost as strong, just lacking in range.

Physical Training isn't a common warrior skill. The Magic Crash would have been a good thing if it had not been nerfed

Reply August 28, 2012 - edited
Reflexes

This was something worthwhile to read! .

Reply August 28, 2012 - edited
JavaHD

I see Mikhail as a DW with 4th job

Reply August 27, 2012 - edited
KamikazeDes

Yes, Mikhail is very balanced. He's just warrior fusion.
Btw, I <3 Boktai.

Reply August 27, 2012 - edited
DColdhearts

I'd main Mihile. Just sayin'.

Reply August 27, 2012 - edited
GunDelHel

Right! And a weaker IS instead of Brandish ^

Reply August 26, 2012 - edited
GunDelHel

[quote=StaffNStuff]So basically, Its a Hero+DW+DS+Lazors? Good to know.[/quote]

It's a Dawn Warrior with a touch of DS and [url=http://www.angelfire.com/musicals/sporkgoddess/Screencaps/shiningfingersword.jpg]Beam Swords[/url].

Reply August 26, 2012 - edited
IDKsoMuch

[quote=Remedy]Honestly, I found this strange. Mihile teaches the skill to Dawn Warriors, yet he doesn't have it himself...[/quote]

I was wondering why Mikhail would have a weaker version of Soul Blade and Soul Driver and then i realized "Oh wait, Mikhail technically is a 'Cygnus - in - training', lol."
And because they're each an advancment lower.

Reply August 26, 2012 - edited
GunDelHel

[quote=thejman250]1. Soul Rage , is basically enrage from heros.

2. the IS, and Soul driver copies are most likely weaker because they both moved down a job.

3. Basicaly Mihkails are a cross between Heros and DWs(who are themselves very watered down heros --- thieves! they stole our skills! jk jk ---.

4. I dont see mihkail being op. [b] EVERY [/b] new class is op to these ppl. infact after Raging blow heros have better dps

5. Although for the unfunded, unfunded mihkails will probably be stronger than some classes.

6. I dont think this thread was nessecary, but i am gratefull for the skill outline.

- i say the above because i doubt alot of heros will sit here and b@tch about mihkails having our skills, especially with DWs stealing them, and phantoms having CA.

- Seriously ^, we aren't Bishops.

- Regardless, thanks[/quote]

You're right; I've edited Soul Rage to reflect that.
I figured as much about the Soul Blade and Soul Driver skills, but I had this urge to make a list! I wanted one badly. To throw myself in front of the Mikhail hate and show that we're all just Warriors.

Reply August 26, 2012 - edited
PwNpWnPwN

i might actually main this it seems strong idk why it has so much hate

Reply August 26, 2012 - edited
GunDelHel

[quote=ayra1215]when does he comes out? [/quote]

Speculation says September 5th.

Reply August 26, 2012 - edited