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[quote=RubberDonkey]What about her mother? Nexon never explained to us what happened to her. Since she's an elf (even through the game text says she's a fairy), why didn't she stay with her people at Elluel? Did mercedes banish her or something?[/quote]

If you mean Athena not being in Elluel, she had something that kept her from being frozen from the curse of the Black Mage. She had no idea, saying she tried her best to walk back into Elluel but it was closed off the whole time Mercedes was gone.

There are different kinds of fairies in Maplestory. You have the Elves of Elluel, Fairies of Ellinia, and the Fairies of Orbis. They are all biologically related to one another. If you were to place them on taxons, all three would be classified as Fairies.

If you guys are talking about Kyrin being an elf, I think I read something on that a few years ago. However, I believe her ears are human. Something's telling me her mother is an elf and her father was human. If her mother is an elf, then she could be a part of the game, provided she was alive during the battle with the Black Mage.

[quote=2KLeaves]The thing goes is that Testonen (Kyrin's father) was the strongest and closest person to a Pirate Hero, let alone a pirate class at all. Because Valerie says "disappeared without a trace, " after leaving for Victoria Island, who knows what his part was in the story. Plus, this was when Pirates came out. The Black Mage story was in its basic form at the time, and they haven't even developed Aran.

Perhaps Nexon America would elaborate on Testonen's story, or even an exclusive class to servers that used Testonen's background. However, the story of the game is still suggesting that Kyrin had confirmed his death before stationing at Victoria Island.

But my point is that if Testonen is dead, then there is no other pirate able to replace his rank, other than Kyrin herself.[/quote]

What about her mother? Nexon never explained to us what happened to her. Since she's an elf (even through the game text says she's a fairy), why didn't she stay with her people at Elluel? Did mercedes banish her or something?

The thing goes is that Testonen (Kyrin's father) was the strongest and closest person to a Pirate Hero, let alone a pirate class at all. Because Valerie says "disappeared without a trace, " after leaving for Victoria Island, who knows what his part was in the story. Plus, this was when Pirates came out. The Black Mage story was in its basic form at the time, and they haven't even developed Aran.

Perhaps Nexon America would elaborate on Testonen's story, or even an exclusive class to servers that used Testonen's background. However, the story of the game is still suggesting that Kyrin had confirmed his death before stationing at Victoria Island.

But my point is that if Testonen is dead, then there is no other pirate able to replace his rank, other than Kyrin herself.

[quote=AckarRed]Weird because I was told Athena was a fairy, from Aran's storyline.[/quote]

Weird because I was told that elves were a closely related species of fairies in Mercedes' storyline.
@RamdomDudeGuy: They all look so beautiful, unfortunately, there isn't any reason that these would be official.

[quote=evyxx]@ArthurSam: Athena is an elf, according to Mercedes's storyline.[/quote]

Weird because I was told Athena was a fairy, from Aran's storyline.

@TheAwesomeDS: Ah, Sindits. I remember them from back in the day. But from what I've seen, Automaton doesn't have much "sin" quality to them.

[quote=PirateB0Bx]I'm seeing the phrase "There's no pirate hero because pirates didn't exist back then" used too frequently, not to mention it's also false. Consider the following:
Pirates have existed since the beginning of maplestory's lore, perhaps longer than the explorers, even, as there is no evidence of explorers existing before they arrived at Victoria Island. If anyone payed attention during the release of pirates, it was said on the website that they sailed around the world on the Nautilus in order to flee the Black Mage (this is also the first mention of the Black Mage in maplestory history). They eventually came back to Victoria with the rest of the refugees after deciding to join forces. Kyrin just happened to be the current captain, so I don't think the argument that "pirates didn't exist before Kyrin" holds any truth either, because nowhere does it say that she founded the pirates.
Secondly, if you look closely in the image from Aran's battle with the Black Mage, you can tell that Nexon originally planned to include a brawler-type pirate hero (among others, but we can see now that they changed their mind about the rest of them). Here's the picture for reference, notice the man in the lower center: http://spadow.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/aranvsblackwizardm.png
(Alot of you have been saying this, and no, it doesn't prove that there was supposed to be a pirate hero, I only included this to show that pirates were around at the time, just not in the form of a hero.)

So there you have it, there really isn't an explained reason as to why there are 2 Mage heroes and no pirate heroes. (Other than the frequently circumstance-supported "Nexon hates pirates" joke).[/quote]

Very good... but since the talk of a sin dit character is to be released maybe it is that instead ? Maybe more dual-weaps ? >.< in this case dual-claw/dagger ?

@OneRockGod: Get over yourself. There's other people in the thread confirming it just like me. Why am I special? Because I post a lot? It's starting to look terribly pathetic how many issues you have with just me posting around.

To exterminate the new mage class, I will bring back the term "Lotus" as the Pirate hero.

@Deadly1337: Pfft no.. Why would you think that?
@Sinboy50000: Well, Zen, the Taiwan/ChinaMS exlusive (who is way cooler than Jett, btw) uses guns but also uses alot of brawler skills, such as an octopunch AND CSP equivillent, not just landlubber blast.

@pirateb0bx: Lol that looks epic. Well one hand could have a knuckle and the other a Gun? it is possible and some punching skills with some epic guns skills o.O idk nexon will probably have to make a new weapon for it.

@Pamplemousse: Lol. Nexon has its ways in being so called "funny"

this thread definitely has nothing to do with the OP being a pirate.

[quote=cheshirefoxy]yay for thread number 3928 on this topic [/quote]
Oops
But then why is this still a problem?

[quote=Sinboy50000]Well this clarifies a lot actually, I have always bend wandering why they didn't make a Hero Pirate, Guess its because of

Mercedes
Aran
Phantom
Evan
Luminous

M.A.P.L.E[/quote]

I thought that that was so corny when Luminous came out. Still do.

@Sinboy50000: I remember you mentioning how it could have worked and it sounded like such an awesome way to do it. He could have used one of [url=http://content.artofmanliness.com/uploads//2011/03/111115_3.jpg]these[/url]

@PirateB0Bx: well it couldve easily fitted a pirate, change the weapon to idk a Knuckle Gun (lulz) and give him a dark and light side.

[quote=Sinboy50000]Mercedes
Aran
Phantom
Evan
Luminous
M.A.P.L.E[/quote]
The name doesn't offer any explanation as to why there's 2 mages. They just as well could have had a pirate with a name beginning with "L", not to mention Luminous would have also worked as a pirate.
[quote=ImaClubYou]Anyway, I hope they finish up the S.T.O.R.Y. part.[/quote]
There's only 5 heroes, not 10. Unless they were to release another faction with those initials, but then the continuity would be lost, so there doesn't seem to be a point to it.
[quote=truesdale2]I didn't know that was a joke...[/quote]
Did I say joke? Oops.

[quote=PirateB0Bx]So there you have it, there really isn't an explained reason as to why there are 2 Mage heroes and no pirate heroes. (Other than the frequently circumstance-supported "Nexon hates pirates" joke).[/quote]

I didn't know that was a joke...

Though I originally assumed that the characters in the [url=http://spadow.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/aranvsblackwizardm.png]given[/url] picture were to be the so-called 'Heroes' that were predicted to follow Aran, I do now believe they are only characters illustrated in the cut scene.

In fact, you could say that they are explorers.

@ImaClubYou: Lol ikr thats gonna be the toughie .__.

[quote=Sinboy50000]Well this clarifies a lot actually, I have always bend wandering why they didn't make a Hero Pirate, Guess its because of

Mercedes
Aran
Phantom
Evan
Luminous

M.A.P.L.E[/quote]

Edit Evan and Luminous. Anyway, I hope they finish up the S.T.O.R.Y. part.

Well this clarifies a lot actually, I have always bend wandering why they didn't make a Hero Pirate, Guess its because of

Mercedes
Aran
Phantom
Evan
Luminous

M.A.P.L.E

@daringwaffle: i dont have mascara

[quote=lansh]WOuld you expect a pirate to be a hero? That's against our nature. Theives as well, but he changed his way for like aria or sumfin. THat's too cheesy for pirates[/quote]
Ladies and gentlemen, i give you captain Jack Sparrow

[quote=MyCookyGoMoo]Yuris was an elf. Kyrin is therefore a half-elf.
Elves live really long [/quote]

Tales of Symphonia.

@ArthurSam: Athena is an elf, according to Mercedes's storyline.

[quote=NidoStyle]Thank you for this information but idgaf[/quote]

You really should. you don't have to but maplestory is not all about damage and whose epen is bigger. the story is really..decent. and its what alot of mmorpgs are about.

Well, the pirate's storyline isn't finished. We still don't know what happened to Yuris. Does anyone know what happened to Testonen? I know he left Kyrin with Athena, and then ended up dead. How did he die?

irdgaff.

Nobody should make a Luminous to show our support for the pirate hero!
#YOLO

[quote=klu180]The very existence of Yuris in Ellin Forest should be able to prove that pirates were around the Black Mage's time. Of course, they weren't called pirates but they were close enough. I'm more concerned about the timeline though Kyrin's mother, Yuris, was there in the Black Mage's time, hundreds of years ago. She was also pregnant with Kyrin then. So...Kyrin is hundreds of years old o.o[/quote]

Yuris was an elf. Kyrin is therefore a half-elf.
Elves live really long

Unlike a lot of other people, I actually enjoy MS Lore, I don't bother going too deep into it, but the small glimpses that you see in the Legends Character Quests do interest me.
So thank you for posting this, it was pretty interesting. I really think they should redraw the Aran intro picture though haha =.=

probably the only reason they didn't do a pirate hero is because they had more ideas for a magician hero. this is cooler than what a pirate hero would have been. that's just my opinion though; don't eat me alive

@PirateB0Bx: I forget what it was...The one with that girl. She was in hiding or something as part of a rebellion I think. It was extreeemely subtle.

Nexon, y u no do this?

imho the whole idea of luminous could have been much cooler if he was a pirate - imagine this: a knuckle user pirate, one of his knuckles is light element and the other is darkness, and all of luminous's skills can be easily modified to fit this weapon, on top of that if they used the "ctrl-ctrl-ctrl" system (like ds and aran) on a knuckle user we could have seen a very cool and stylish moves.

maybeee
the aran had some help with regular soldiers
and other maplers other than just heroes

That picture was only concept art when they released Aran. It doesn't really prove anything.

Speaking of AB, I really hope Nexon gives Nova 2 pirates to make up for this at the cost of the mage. We already have a dragon mage (Evan), plus, how awesome would a knuckle-using dragon be? I could imagine them using alot of slashing and clawing attacks.

pirate: why no legend....
nexon: we sorta ran out of pirate like ideas.... look mech there pirates we gave them robots....
pirate:...why?
nexon:we see your upset will come up with a pirate class for you to make up for legendlessness ...
pirate:ok weres my class
nexon: here it is angelic buster...
pirate:huh a girl?
nexon: your already a G.I.R.L. cheek that damage cap we gave it tho....

Go to Ellin Forest.
There's a pirate there.

The storyline has too many plot holes.

The picture kind of just proves that Nexon was making this bull up as they went along. No planning or anything.

Yes... the bowman in the picture is clearly holding two dual bow guns

so basically, that picture can be neglected for any reference D:

[quote=ImaClubYou]Interesting read. The link seems to depict 2 warriors, a bowman, a mage, and what is assumed to be the pirate hero.[/quote]

The Mage might be the phantom with a cane

The very existence of Yuris in Ellin Forest should be able to prove that pirates were around the Black Mage's time. Of course, they weren't called pirates but they were close enough. I'm more concerned about the timeline though Kyrin's mother, Yuris, was there in the Black Mage's time, hundreds of years ago. She was also pregnant with Kyrin then. So...Kyrin is hundreds of years old o.o

You're correct with everything except the picture. That was a filler, unfortunately.

[quote=evyxx]>The first mention
obviously you never did the Spiruna quest line[/quote]
Which one? The only one I remember is the one where Orbis is in danger of falling, which doesn't have anything to do with the history of pirates.
[quote=Mang]I don't think that picture proves anything. they just made a cool image when Aran came out and added a picture from every class.[/quote]
You're right, it doesn't [i]prove[/i] that there was supposed to be a pirate hero, but it does point towards the existence of the pirates during the Legend's era.

[quote=IKantSpall]Source to where they stated this?[/quote]

I'll vouch for him stating the truth. I lost the source a while ago, but it's true.

>The first mention
obviously you never did the Spiruna quest line