General

About Nexons Weaknesses

I don't know how much 90% of the people on this site know about maintaining and upgrading servers and making sure everything is bug free, but it is a difficult job. Not everything is as simple as push this button and make it better. Mistakes happen, coding isn't quite up to par, and sometimes the hardware just doesn't want to comply. Don't feel so betrayed when something Nexon does doesn't work out the way you want it. If you want exciting new events, items, and classes as often as Nexon releases them for Maple, there are bound to be problems.

tldr: Nexon is run by Humans

December 17, 2012

35 Comments • Newest first

snifit0712

But the problem is they're not communicating with the fanbase. It isn't the press of a button to fix issues, but it is to tell us what's going on.

Reply December 17, 2012
KaySarkSwisz

GMS = North [b]AMERICA[/b] Me being an American who lives in New York, I can understand people want things done fast and good. Some people are too impatient, Coding is one hell of a job I respect Nexon.

Reply December 17, 2012
z3non

Nicely said (:

Reply December 17, 2012
Segumisama

[quote=FireWarlord]it's been 2 hours and they can't even acknowledge there's a problem[/quote]

From twitter:
MapleStory ‏@MapleStory
While some players are able to get in game we are experiencing login difficulties. More updates to come when available.

[url=http://maplestory.nexon.net/Community/#%2Fshowthread.php%3F663724%26p%3D5589679%26viewfull%3D1%23post5589679]official post from hime[/url]

Reply December 17, 2012
XxWolfCubxX

I sit on the fence for the 'Nexon Sucks/Nexon Trys' fight.

They're obviously good enough, considering it's a free game and nobody HAS to ditch school/work/whatever else people have complained they didnt do JUST so they could get onto a laggy new-player filled area so they can try Kaiser.

BUT.. they could spare some money made to hire a few more people than can take the load off others/are more equipped for certain job/etc.

Reply December 17, 2012
Scheifen

[quote=taimega2007]Okay I'm honestly sick of this whole "oh they make so much money they should hire more people". Have any of you even read their financial reports? Anyone? They're public. Why not search them up. Last year Nexon America recorded a net LOSS. That's right your "money grabbing" company actually spent more money than they made.[/quote]

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20121107006936/en/Nexon-Reports-Quarter-2012-Financial-Results

increase. small increase, but increase.

Reply December 17, 2012
povveriess

[quote=taimega2007]Okay I'm honestly sick of this whole "oh they make so much money they should hire more people". Have any of you even read their financial reports? Anyone? They're public. Why not search them up. Last year Nexon America recorded a net LOSS. That's right your "money grabbing" company actually spent more money than they made.[/quote]

as quoted by the CEO

"We are pleased with our performance for the second quarter, in which we met our expectations for both revenue and operating income, driven by growth in our existing games, which continue to perform well"

Total revenues were ¥22,876 million, an increase of 12% over the second quarter of 2011 (20% on a constant currency basis).
Operating income was ¥10,678 million, an increase of 24% over the second quarter of 2011. Operating income margin was 47%, up from 42% in the second quarter of 2011.
Net income for the quarter was ¥6,768 million, an increase of 32% over the second quarter of 2011.
Adjusted net income for the quarter was ¥7,148 million, an increase of 30% over the second quarter of 2011.
Basic earnings per share were ¥15.63. Adjusted earnings per share were ¥16.51.

Reply December 17, 2012 - edited
ikazuchikami

[quote=taimega2007]Okay I'm honestly sick of this whole "oh they make so much money they should hire more people". Have any of you even read their financial reports? Anyone? They're public. Why not search them up. Last year Nexon America recorded a net LOSS. That's right your "money grabbing" company actually spent more money than they made.[/quote]

a loss eh?
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20120809005448/en/Nexon-Reports-Quarter-2012-Financial-Results

Reply December 17, 2012 - edited
Vitium48

What amazes me is that they can find people willing to take that job. It's a thankless job; so much pressure from both your superiors and the player base of the game, and no one appreciates your work because the end result is all that matters.

Reply December 17, 2012 - edited
povveriess

[quote=taimega2007]Okay I'm honestly sick of this whole "oh they make so much money they should hire more people". Have any of you even read their financial reports? Anyone? They're public. Why not search them up. Last year Nexon America recorded a net LOSS. That's right your "money grabbing" company actually spent more money than they made.[/quote]

orly?

Revenue

Increase 87.61 billion JPY
Increase 1.27 trillion KRW
Increase 1.12 billion USD
Increase 851.77 million EUR
Increase 714.51 million GBP

Reply December 17, 2012 - edited
IKickCats

[quote=FalconP]thats actually true, the majority of asian cultures really dont care about customer satisfaction or approval at least in restaurants.

But GMS is run by Nexon america, not by Nexon korea. So this game is actually run by americans.[/quote]

Kinda, some employees are american the higher ups in Nexon America are actually korean.

Reply December 17, 2012 - edited
ikazuchikami

[quote=finfin]read this:

http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Nexon-Reviews-E143099.htm[/quote]

good read, now i have 0 sympathy for the higher-ups and a little sympathy for the people who actually work

Reply December 17, 2012 - edited
Jasonbird1

is maplestory the only game ran by nexonNA ? cause mabinogi plays fine for me more often than maplestory. we gotta face that these games are getting old and maybe they are trying hard to put lipstick on a dead horse, but its still been done and done, and should be good at it. i do however, think that they are seriously undermanned in there, probably could easily take 2-4 more people to make it run more smoothly for MS

and how many people here know C++, Pearl, Python, A+, HTML coding, and pretty familiar with flash based games? if so, maybe send them a resume?

Reply December 17, 2012 - edited
IKickCats

[quote=DoctorBeaver]@IKickCats: You realize that the code has to be optimized for the hardware running it, right? Coding of this scale cannot just be copied and pasted. As for a bunch of teenagers running it, so what? Younger generations tend to understand coding better than the older ones because coding is a language of its own. Adults learn languages, kids integrate them.[/quote]

Don't qoute on this as I'm not 100% sure but from what I heard korean nexon and america nexon pretty much use the same hardware. Ok, you're telling me teenagers who basically picked up coding as a hobby do better than coders with college degrees? There's one thing I can up with that Nexon is to full of itself to hire new better coders so they can save money etc. Also look up lostpkz it's a dead runescape p sever but I coded parts of it

Reply December 17, 2012 - edited
DoctorBeaver

[quote=IKickCats]Already have it's no big deal challenging yes but no big deal if you love what you're doing.[/quote]

Credentials? (The proverbial 'pics or it didn't happen')

@Caligod: Pando Media Booster is not a Nexon run entity. LoL uses it too.

Reply December 17, 2012 - edited
IKickCats

[quote=HumanPorch]Lol. how about you try to code a complex game?[/quote]

Already have it's no big deal challenging yes but no big deal if you love what you're doing.

Reply December 17, 2012 - edited
bounty88

[quote=finfin]read this:

http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Nexon-Reviews-E143099.htm[/quote]

everybody should check this link, and will get a better understanding of nexon employees.

Reply December 17, 2012 - edited
DoctorBeaver

@IKickCats: You realize that the code has to be optimized for the hardware running it, right? Coding of this scale cannot just be copied and pasted. As for a bunch of teenagers running it, so what? Younger generations tend to understand coding better than the older ones because coding is a language of its own. Adults learn languages, kids integrate them.

Reply December 17, 2012 - edited
xkairyushin

[quote=HumanPorch]Lol. how about you try to code a complex game?[/quote]

let him be, he's being ignorant and delusional

TS: it's very much true, a lot of people on basil though....they troll or think they're smart by acting like they know everything(people who respond to my comment rudely will be the ones im talking about)

Reply December 17, 2012 - edited
imnew09

[quote=IKickCats]Rofl you know nothing sorry. You do know all nexon america does is copy,paste and upload yet they still manage to somehow screw stuff up. The only real "coding" they do is change the language from korean to english and maybe some gms exclusive stuff. Sorry, but nexon is a screw up somehow a bunch of teenagers who run run [b]p[/b]izza [b]s[/b]lices are doing a better job maintaining maplestory than a multi million dollar company.[/quote]

Well said.

Reply December 17, 2012 - edited
Skyenets

Correction:
Nexon is run by human [b]who get paid to do their job right[/b].

You know what happens to me if I don't deliver properly a crap ton of times? I get fired. I think I speak for majority of the world when I say that it's common logic.

Reply December 17, 2012 - edited
IKickCats

Rofl you know nothing sorry. You do know all nexon america does is copy,paste and upload yet they still manage to somehow screw stuff up. The only real "coding" they do is change the language from korean to english and maybe some gms exclusive stuff. Sorry, but nexon is a screw up somehow a bunch of teenagers who run run [b]p[/b]izza [b]s[/b]lices are doing a better job maintaining maplestory than a multi million dollar company.

Reply December 17, 2012 - edited
gargantula2

Human after all.

Reply December 17, 2012 - edited
BlueLight

They have a test server
but since the entire staff is made out of THREE PEOPLE I can understand why it is so hard on MapleStory to work like it should.

Reply December 17, 2012 - edited
Iknowall

This game is run by Asians. -> Expectations are not met.

Reply December 17, 2012 - edited
imnew09

you expect a Multi millionaire company to have repetitive errors? Smh

Reply December 17, 2012 - edited
finfin

read this:

http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Nexon-Reviews-E143099.htm

Reply December 17, 2012 - edited
Scheifen

As one of the 5% who know a little something about servers and coding, i really can appreciate this, and it needed to be said.

However, with how much money they make off of Maplestory, they should hire just one guy to test this stuff before sending it to the live server... or restart Tespia, and have people find bugs for them.

Reply December 17, 2012 - edited
Hard2B

Respect for Nexon <3

Reply December 17, 2012 - edited
DiuMeHarder

so many brown noses !

Reply December 17, 2012 - edited
povveriess

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tldr: nexon can divert 1% of their profits to hiring more people for server handling and or upgrade

Reply December 17, 2012 - edited
Camdon

they also compare Nexon to WoW. Even WoW has bugs, hell even WoW has server crashes. And they also dont realize anything about critical mass when it comes to coding.

Reply December 17, 2012 - edited
Erichart8844

Someone finally says it. finally. <3

Reply December 17, 2012 - edited
Segumisama

Unfortunately most of the playerbase (read: 10-14 aged kids.) doesn't understand this.

Reply December 17, 2012 - edited