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Can someone explain why people think nightwalkers are strong

They have poor mob skills, so that'll make training hard. And their single target skills don't seem that strong. No stronger than night lords, anyway.

October 28, 2014

19 Comments • Newest first

healer55

Avenger is a great mobbing skill and NW's have it.

Reply October 29, 2014
RheeBreezy

^^well that escalated quickly

Reply October 29, 2014
Doutei

nl > faster bossers initially.
nw > faster bossers in the long run. [takes a while for bats iirc]

imo, NW if u want to just boss and far money,
nl if you want to get to train to 250 and boss on the side.
Cus NW will be leeching 24/7 anyways.

Reply October 29, 2014
RubberDonkey

Does nw's back step also cancel skills? If yes, then another slap to the face to all chaining classes.

Reply October 29, 2014
LightCaress

[quote=oregonman94]wow might actually try one because of lack of funds and mastery books are expensive. i just dont like there training abilitiy, there mobbing saddens me, what happened to the amazing DoT they used t have T.T[/quote]

its still there. that's what the marks of darkness do, along with giving % pdr per stack.
This describes all their skills: [url=http://orangemushroom.net/2014/05/15/kms-ver-1-2-214-cygnus-returns-night-walker/][/url]

Reply October 29, 2014
LightCaress

@oregonman94: haha
honestly it was the healing factor that sold me for them. Always thought Nls looked cool but never got one to 4th job because I felt like they were pot guzzlers. (no offense to NLs)
plus don't have to buy mastery books <3

Reply October 29, 2014
LightCaress

[quote=oregonman94]they have more mobility? not questioning you im just curious ^[/quote]

upward flash jump and their backstep skill.
also don't forget the healing the bats give.

Reply October 28, 2014
Ichii

Because the charts and bossing videos said so!

They have better dps than NLs on paper, vastly superior bossing tools, more mobility and cooler animations(opinion) as an added bonus.

Reply October 28, 2014
Bleky

[quote=oregonman94]So if two people are equals it means they are exactly the same?[/quote]

Do you even math?

Reply October 28, 2014
BetterThanYou

[quote=oregonman94]which is wrong, nw deal more dmg 1v1 and nl deal more dmg 1vmobs. thanks for understanding TS[/quote]

I thought NLs would win since they have that passive that shoots out more stars. NW's bat thing is pretty lame unless you've got insane funds.

Reply October 28, 2014
BetterThanYou

[quote=oregonman94]So if two people are equals it means they are exactly the same?[/quote]

I see what you're trying to say, the classes aren't identical, but they were saying that their damage is equal.

Reply October 28, 2014
KnuckleBrown

Who has the faster hps?

Reply October 28, 2014
Undexme

for maximum fundings the difference is pretty much only the fact their sp can get to 50 mil dmg
the rest is no game changing at all

Reply October 28, 2014
johnadrianli

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Reply October 28, 2014
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Reply October 28, 2014
powerguy121

their shadow partner can go higher than % of damage before unlike NL where shadow partner is capped at % of 50m.
Also, 3 shadow partners for 30 seconds ignores DR.

Reply October 28, 2014
PikachuPonyo

equal: adjective, the [b]same[/b] in number, amount, degree, rank, or quality

Reply October 28, 2014 - edited
epikkhighh

[quote=stany123]NL vs NW

they are both equal[/quote]

NL does not have revive,does not have a 5 star hit skill(excluding hypers) does not have a hyper that lets you summon 3 shadow partners for 30 secs.
NW does not have showdown,a great mobbing and bonus exp skill.

the same how?

Reply October 28, 2014 - edited
itoldyounoob

I believe their attack speed is faster than NLs due to the fact that apparently some kms dudes proved that jumping significantly increases cast speed.
On top of that, they're a designed 1v1 class, I'm gonna guess they should be stronger in 1v1 compared to NL... Also, one extra star in their main attack might be a reason. o.o

Reply October 28, 2014 - edited