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[quote=SombraManx]Gyouha is still their 1v1
youuan shoukan have a similar animation, and large range, that makes them similar
shads indeed have pretty nice survivability, but kanna and DS work similar (block chance, healing)
phantom skills is not AoE, like kanna's and DS
demons slayers summons demons: for expample in the hyper skill, cerberus, crrion breath and demon cry...

try them both, and you will see how similar they are.....

in fact, you couldn't be more wrong, its impossible[/quote]
Gyouha is Kanna's 1v1, but Demon Last isn't a Demon Slayer's true 1v1, that's Demon Impact.
That's not enough to make them similar since they have completely different functions.
You completely missed the point, try again.
Mille Aiguilles is AoE, sorry.
Not the same as Kanna since Kanna's are actually summons and Demon Slayer's are more of embellishment. Not to mention it's not even a summon since Demon Impact's description (for example) says "Call forth your inner demon." Can't really summon yourself.

I have a Demon Slayer and have played for a Kanna briefly. They have similarities, a few common "themes" (Spirit Power and Demon Fury, is one), but they don't play similarly at all.

You could not be more wrong, actually.

@Momijii:

Gyouha is still their 1v1
youuan shoukan have a similar animation, and large range, that makes them similar
shads indeed have pretty nice survivability, but kanna and DS work similar (block chance, healing)
phantom skills is not AoE, like kanna's and DS
demons slayers summons demons: for expample in the hyper skill, cerberus, crrion breath and demon cry...

try them both, and you will see how similar they are.....

in fact, you couldn't be more wrong, its impossible

[quote=SombraManx]demon cry -like skill
ctrl spam skill
nice survivability (block chance, def, healing)
kanna summons demons and tengus, ds summons dark spirits
kanna and ds, both have an hurricane like skill that mobs
insane range![/quote]
Youuan Shoukan is not like Demon Cry. Their only similarity is their large aoe. Youuan does not reduce defense or increase EXP, all Youuan does is leave a DoT-cloud.
Shisen Gyouha does not replace Kanna's auto-attack like Demon Leash though. Not to mention Gyouha doesn't even restore Spirit Power like Leash restores Fury.
They have nice survivability, but then so do Shadowers.
I'm not sure where you're getting the notion that Demon Slayers summon anything. (There is no wording in any of his skill descriptions that allude to summoning.)
So do Phantoms.
Not much of a similarity at all since Kanna trashes Demon Slayer's range and Demon Slayer's "insane range" is limited to a handful of skills whereas almost all of Kanna's skills have an insane range.

Your reasoning is trash. Try again.

[quote=Momijii]I don't get why people keep saying that she'll play just like a Demon Slayer.[/quote]

demon cry -like skill
ctrl spam skill
nice survivability (block chance, def, healing)
kanna summons demons and tengus, ds summons dark spirits
kanna and ds, both have an hurricane like skill that mobs
insane range!

From what I've been told, BaM's are much stronger. But Kanna are better balanced, are good fun and have good skills.

Once I have a Kanna, I can compare it to my Bam

BaM are alot more better especially with a higher dps. But no doubt the will be no nerf needed for kana but rather hayoto a class which combines db,bam, and another class.

@Blohgorn:

Yeah i guess there will be 2 mag pally classes lol.

[quote=Singaporean]If anything, I feel that Kanna plays like a cannoneer+pally with all the counters and guards.... pally mage?[/quote]

Thought we were the mage version of pally with our max def and blue aurora lol

B > Kanna Hurricane Buff!

If anything, I feel that Kanna plays like a cannoneer+pally with all the counters and guards.... pally mage?

[quote=toad]BaM lag with teleport? Im pretty sure its not true... [/quote]

What i meant is that every time after u execute tele, there's a delay before u can execute it again. (well, for me at least) and i was wondering if that delay is less, euqal or greater than 1s.

[quote=Blohgorn]i dont see kanna being similar to ds play style. i see it being a mage that has a mille aiguilles type skill, with summons that make BaMs jealous. other than that i think they are really similar to BaM's with their close range combat playstyle. do you guys think their haja rengekifu (the mille tyle skill) will attacks faster then FB[/quote]

besides the massive amount of summons Kanna has,
She also has a wide variety of mobbing attacks and they all have a ridiculous attack range.
Demon Slayers have a wide variety of mobbing attacks from their 2nd-4th job.
The sames goes for Kanna, except she has more offensive reach than a Demon Slayer and a Battle Mage.

I'm not sure if Kanna attacks faster than a BaM.
I do know that a BaM with all his/her Hyper skills will own any Kanna though. (Until Kanna's hyper skills are released, then someone will eventually determine which is better.)

i dont see kanna being similar to ds play style. i see it being a mage that has a mille aiguilles type skill, with summons that make BaMs jealous. other than that i think they are really similar to BaM's with their close range combat playstyle. do you guys think their haja rengekifu (the mille tyle skill) will attacks faster then FB

I always like the most crappy classes (Bishop, BaM [no hypers], and now Kanna)

I don't get why people keep saying that she'll play just like a Demon Slayer.

BaM lag with teleport? Im pretty sure its not true... Well, the only way to compare is without hyper skills because Kanna don't have them... Let's wait 7 days to see if our Kanna will be the same or different from JMS in therms of damage... If there is no changes...oh well, i would stay with BaM... But Kanna is my second choice, and a third one would be Luminous...

@fyeflowlight: unless bam tele is different from mage tele then no, at least not for me

[quote=Singaporean]agreed ^

The only char that I think have better hypers (as far as benefiting the class) are cannoneers 100%
Bam hypers are so boss. You can get perm invincibility by the looks of it be telecasting bosses continuously. I don't think your fingers will like you much though...[/quote]

Perm invincibility wud be awesome xD but doesn't tele hav a lag? does that lag last for more than one sec though?

[quote=VolklRacerr]Kanna will be better, no doubt in my mind.
But then... the beloved [b]nerf[/b] comes and then Kanna is below phantom in terms of dps[/quote]

There will be no nerf. Kanna is not an op class, to do decent damage you will actually need funding.

[quote=VolklRacerr]Kanna will be better, no doubt in my mind.
But then... the beloved [b]nerf[/b] comes and then Kanna is below phantom in terms of dps[/quote]
Kanna's been out for [i]almost[/i] a year and hasn't received any substantial changes so.... that was a really bad joke.

I'll play one to see. I'm not switching over unless I find it irresistibly fun being a cute little boy in robes with a fan~

BaM's Damage % is really high with Hyper Skills.
They are not doubt in the top 5 that deal the most % with hyperskills

@AuraShade86: Oh definitely but I just don't feel they help boost the class the way bam and cannon hypers do XP

Until Kanna gets hyper skills, it's hard to say. In a hyper-less scenario, I'd say it's pretty close. With hypers (reminder than Kanna has none), BaM trumps her by a land-slide.

[quote=Singaporean]The only char that I think have better hypers (as far as benefiting the class) are cannoneers 100%[/quote]

ehhh i personally like Vengeance of Angel and no cd snipe too

agreed ^

The only char that I think have better hypers (as far as benefiting the class) are cannoneers 100%
Bam hypers are so boss. You can get perm invincibility by the looks of it be telecasting bosses continuously. I don't think your fingers will like you much though...

they do not have hyper skills. also BaM has some of the best active hyper skills out of any char

as far as i know, JMS didnt release hyperskills for hayato and kanna
correct me if i am wrong