General

You guys, dual blades are the best thief class meant to overshadow every other thief. That we all know because looking at the dpm charts you'll see but they aren't really like shads. They seem more like mercedes at this point in time. At first, they did copy shads but right now, they are like every other class in the game, have a fast attacking solo skill and a high damage dealing mobbing skill. That's the maple of today guys. We just have to deal with it.

Well... Theres Fifth Job Possibly (probably) incoming, Im hoping for the return of assulter as a skill for shads .
Inb4 Assulter for NL :[

Due to the revamp, a lot of the classics vanished. Yes, it sucks to not have assaulter and BoT but hyper skills will somewhat make up for the loss.

I'll put it this way.
With the current state of the Bandit class--InBomb is now and forever a Mangelic Buster. Work that one out. No. Go on. I'll wait and let it process. A man who loved his class so much, he'd play Lukless. Non-compulsively, nimbly, for days on end. Never to wield a dagger as a thief ever again.

One of the reasons that made me quit my CB, I really miss those skills.

[quote=DeeeMon]DBs ruined everything, they shouldn't exist.[/quote]

This.

It's that one class that is made for the purpose of overshadowing shadowers. It's as if nexon is picking on bandits 'hmmm why don't we just make a bandit ..... with two daggers!, that'll surely stop people from playing bandits'

Hugo/Heoun?

Almost all classes are constantly being changed now. There's always an event going on and its never stable for more than a few months.
Kind of why I want to quit Shadower for a db as my main

[quote=Joop]I don't feel like my Bandit is really worth playing anymore. I made one because I loved Savage Blow and Band of Thieves, and the icing on the cake was Assaulter and Meso Explosion. But now... I just don't know what to think. Sure I guess it's cool I can mob easier and do Meso Explosion more often, but what I had to sacrifice to get that just seemed a little much. Now I feel like I don't even deserve a title like "Chief Bandit" anymore, because now the only skill I really have that summons any thieves is Sudden Raid, which is available for every thief at forth job. Then again I never did make it to fourth job.

I never did play a Dual Blader when they came out. Were they really that similar to Bandits pre-BB?[/quote]

My Blader is post-BB pre-revamp and not extremely high, but it never felt like a Bandit at all. It feels much more uh... erratic, I'm not very good at playing a DB although I like the class. I can imagine why people like it better than the Bandit, though (personally I like the Bandit better).

[quote=Satoshi1234]Hm? I'm not sure I follow, sorry. I don't really see what this had to do with my post. XD
To clarify, all I was implying was that Nexon took one of the CB/Shadower's most beloved skills and effectively gave it to us good ol' Hermies/NLs-- a class that neither wanted nor needed the skill at all. XD[/quote]

Oh, ah. Yeah, the thing is that the "stealing" argument caused a lot of unrest in the Thief section; initialy NLs accused DBs of stealing FJ and SP, after Big Bang NLs as well as DBs accused Bandits of the same, and a few months ago Shadowers were accusing NLs of stealing BoT.
(now those were a lot of abbreviations o_o)
Anyway, the whole "stealing" argument, if used seriously, always struck me as a little dramatic. @_@ But yeah, I do agree it's a strange skill for Night Lords to have. It's a ranged class, with defenses that aren't as good as the Shadower's. Makes me wonder if Nexon really thought this through.

@eerie: Yep, I agree that the old BoT and Assaulter were still useful in Fourth. The CB has always been my favourite job and I pretty much played the Shadower as though it were an extension of the Shadower. Since most of the CB is now gone, I only have the Shadower left, so to say. It's still fun, but the current CB skills are okay at best. Dunno, feels like some "Bandit non plus ultra" or so.
Previously every new Bandit job radically changed our class. From a rather slow attacking, single-hitting class we went to a fast, mobile, defensive mobber and from that to a semi-ranged ninja. The Bandit transformed with every advancement! That's what I loved about the Bandit class so much.
Now it's basically an uniform class, it doesn't radically change until you hit Shadower.

Assaulter would have been an amazing skill to keep for shads, but nooo they had to take it out. Using that with bstep is like godmode -o-.

[quote=ThrowinqNL]Nexon is just ruining everything good there ever was about maple. Next thing you know they'll take out quad throw for nl's -.-[/quote]

And make it QuinThrow.

[quote=eerie][quote=Pavchka]

But the cb job skills were still used in 4th job and they did a much better job bridging this gap than the current skills. Only reason I even use phase dash is cause I have nothing else to link bstep with when killing normal mobs.[/quote]

Well... There's always steal

[quote=DeeeMon]DBs ruined everything, they shouldn't exist.[/quote]

Hi there

[quote=Pavchka]Hum, that's one argument I'll never understand.

The class has been revamped to the point that the Chief Bandit was reduced to something that should bridge the gap between-
what am I saying, the Bandit as well as the Chief Bandit have been reduced to the point that they're no longer valid classes. The game's all about getting to level wheneveryougetfourth as soon as possible. Especially the CB suffered. One hint: this section used to be called the Bandit section. Now people call it the Shadower section.

Things get fun at fourth.

But the cb job skills were still used in 4th job and they did a much better job bridging this gap than the current skills. Only reason I even use phase dash is cause I have nothing else to link bstep with when killing normal mobs.

[quote=Pavchka]Hum, that's one argument I'll never understand.

The class has been revamped to the point that the Chief Bandit was reduced to something that should bridge the gap between-
what am I saying, the Bandit as well as the Chief Bandit have been reduced to the point that they're no longer valid classes. The game's all about getting to level wheneveryougetfourth as soon as possible. Especially the CB suffered. One hint: this section used to be called the Bandit section. Now people call it the Shadower section.

Things get fun at fourth.[/quote]

Hm? I'm not sure I follow, sorry. I don't really see what this had to do with my post. XD
To clarify, all I was implying was that Nexon took one of the CB/Shadower's most beloved skills and effectively gave it to us good ol' Hermies/NLs-- a class that neither wanted nor needed the skill at all. XD

I feel you bro. Assaulter & BoT were my favorite moves as a CB. I'm also a returning player and returned recently. After finding out that they removed those moves, I quit my main CB and made a new character.
D:

Nexon just wants us to suffer for having any sort of pride to our class. So they got rid of everything we were proud of and gave it to the ones we despise most.

[quote=Satoshi1234]Night Lords stole your BoT.

Very, [i]very[/i] reluctantly, I assure you.[/quote]

Hum, that's one argument I'll never understand.

The class has been revamped to the point that the Chief Bandit was reduced to something that should bridge the gap between-
what am I saying, the Bandit as well as the Chief Bandit have been reduced to the point that they're no longer valid classes. The game's all about getting to level wheneveryougetfourth as soon as possible. Especially the CB suffered. One hint: this section used to be called the Bandit section. Now people call it the Shadower section.

Things get fun at fourth.

@DeeeMon: Scapegoats are always nice.

[quote=tonytony40]Where the phreak is Heart of Gold?[/quote]

league of brusiers too strong =(

DBs ruined everything, they shouldn't exist.

[quote=tonytony40]Where the phreak is Heart of Gold?[/quote]

Removed in the itemization changes for S3.

Where the phreak is Heart of Gold?

Night Lords stole your BoT.

Very, [i]very[/i] reluctantly, I assure you.

LOL Welcome to Maplestory 2013.

Got revamped a while back. no more need for rocks. some weird rush skill u have to use til 4th job. ;_;