Should 'Steal' have added effects?
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I have been using a bandit account for a while now, and i serious nerfed. I see Nightwalkers skipping around using flash jump. Dawn Warriors stepping on my toes using flash step and magician basically passing right through me using teleport. Haste is nice, but I feel it isn't enough. I made lv 54 today and I decided to put 1 point into steal. And, surprise! Steal is useless. -.- I know I don't have fancy equips, but to me, the shadower path still seems underpowered.
Assaulter only let you zip through maps if there is an enemy in front of you. Steal is useless. Meso Explosion and Mesos Guard both cost (you guessed it) mesos. I was wondering, how many people thing that the bandit move 'steal' should have an effect similar to flash jump and teleport Click here if you think this post is particularly interesting or helpful.
Poll - Should 'Steal' have added effects?
50%
87 votes I want Steal to make Bandits the move faster!
49%
86 votes I think Bandits are alright as they are
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Satoshi1234: nightwalkers are the worst in the long run... best are DWs, by far, followed by TBs then the other two close behind. Then NWs. My opinion really differs. I kinda rate them all as equal in the long-run since DWs do have perks, but so do the other classes (like the ability to sell Harps leech as a Blaze Wiz and there are some bosses DWs aren't great at, but the other jobs are which they can fight for fun [especially BF]). xD New Pic: Lvl 134. xD
AlwaysBowman: How about bowmen? Okay we got thrust but that's not half as good as haste... And warriors? Well... Thrust IS passive, so that's nice And the bow usually gives 10+ speed... So with max thrust you have passive max speed But then there's the jump stats New Pic: MNB2
LampShadow: If you steal money from a monster then it won't drop money afterwords yes it will. Your right that if you steal money, it is 50% of the normal drop. However, if you do steal money, the monster will still drop money afterwards (with the normal probability of dropping money). markedmask: yes it will. Your right that if you steal money, it is 50% of the normal drop. However, if you do steal money, the monster will still drop money afterwards (with the normal probability of dropping money). Ok I guess it would help people at sakura cellions :P ur dumb im srry but with MG u save money on pots so ya and ME dosent cost that much once maxed and its the strongest 3 job skill....... so ya ive had a str cb and a reg cb and a dexless and it only cost me like 10m for 10 lvls once ME and MG were maxed
i c u never played warriors b4 eh? play on one of us then say that dits are hard to play
Why would you think "Steal" makes you move faster?
It STEALS items. Obviously. I'm fine with my Bandits speed. If you know how to use it right, Assaulter is good. I can zip through most maps. And if I'm just strollin' through town, I just hop on my pig. Just get your Bandit to a higher level and learn how to use it properly, Then you wont hate it anymore. in reality only mages,NW, and DW are faster than you
all the bowmans, warriors and theives are either slower or equal to you.. multy: Add regular warriors to that list and i might vote for faster..lol.. beside CK ALL warriors are IMMENSELY slow and only at 4th job get rush (but have to have mnster in front of you also) Yes but bandits are supposed to be able to move around quickly in the shadows. Messo guard is a money saver for your major information Bradley
Protip:
-Use steal on cursed frog or cat. -? -Profit! AlwaysBowman: How about bowmen? Okay we got thrust but that's not half as good as haste... And warriors? Bandits are supposed to be agile, bowmen are to and that is why they get thrust but they are not meant to be as agile as bandits. I think steal should actually make the character jump forward, instead of just a shadow.
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You people who say Mesos Explosion wastes money have no idea how to use the skill. This skill is meant to blow up money a MONSTER drops. Now, instead of looting the mesos, taking extra damage, and killing more of the same mob you can explode it. Exploding saves time and saves you money. Exploding takes out the trouble of looting while taking damage and continuing to kill the mobs to take more damage. For example, I waste a total of 6k hp to try and kill this mob. Let's say instead, I explode the mob saving 6k of damage and look, 3 more bags of mesos pop up! Now if you want to have a super duper training time with Mesos Explosion you use 2x drop. For example, I'm at typhons with 2x drop. I mob all of the typhons and kill them all in the middle. I mob them again and this time I explode them. 6 more bags of mesos drops, so I use 1 attack of SB using Pickpocket to accumulate some coins. Then I explode again and boom, 6 more bags of mesos! If there are 5 or less monsters I just kill them because it would be a waste of mesos.
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Think of steal like this: When you use steal the monster has a 40% chance of dropping whatever it would drop normally. There is no modifier to the drop rate but if you steal mesos they're 50% of what the monster would drop normally. If you steal money from a monster then it won't drop money afterwords, same with any other item. Steal is only really useful if you use it against monsters you probably couldn't kill anyways.
*edit: steal may be useful in some pqs, such as lpq and lmpq, but I'm fairly sure that they nerfed that. People were using steal to get double the tickets, so they ended up nerfing steal so you couldn't receive the same item you stole after killing the monster