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Nov 01 2009 +
failingeye
71 Scania Outlaw
 
They are weak and all they have is speed. They are gonna be like gunslingers in a sort of way. They will be cool looking nice speed but weak dmg. P/A inflation will be only for a few weeks to a month or 2. Then they will be a dead class. Im not saying i wont make one im just saying that like 70% of the people who want them will easily quit it for the way it's played and/or the dmg.
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11/02/09 +
FatalMondays
80 Scania Dragon Knight
 
Arans aren't weak it is just that you need to get it's combo up.
Also the fact they only use one element so a monster with an Ice resistance will do less, but not all monsters have it.
11/02/09 +
ElNoxino
146 Bera Paladin
 
Only at the beginning i can agree the situation reaches the line of the worst.
But once they backed up at 4th job, like Corsairs... It'll be another time for an Armageddon. ._.
11/02/09 +
12Chibi12
80 DemethosGMS Priest
 
Its all a matter of opinion, theres no need for you to make an entire thread just to flame the people that are excited about this new class

Instead of making an attack on other players why don't you just ignore them and not make an aran

(and plus your adding to the hype by making more threads on them)
Nov 02* +
Orange111
134 Broa Night Lord
 
They are strong, but they hold a lot of weaknesses that their melee counterparts do.
Bossing:
-BF. Less HP than other Warriors and a bit more than Bucs = they gotta wait quite a while in order to solo BF without washing (without PG, they gotta wait quite a bit longer than Heroes/Pallys). Plus no Rush/Corkscrew-like skill that I know of, so things might get a little uncontrolled.
-Anego. Same as BF on the HP situation. Slappy.
-Gramps chain. If you're melee, you won't get past BGA legitly (at least not by any methods i've seen attempted lol). BMs are the only ones that have solo'ed the chain, but Corsairs and NLs also have the potential to do so (hugging lower-leveled summons ftw?).
Training:
They're good at tearing up mobs, but it doesn't automatically make them the most amazing trainers. I'd like to see them compared to Bishops/AMs/Shads/Pallys.

I think the Aran class is cool, but don't think they're weakness-less. xD
New Pic: Lvl 134. xD
11/02/09 +
ODERS
145 Mardia Hero
 
Aran will train at the same speed as Heroes (4th job only, faster in 2nd and 3rd, but they are rediculously easy, even without leech.)

Their DPM will be superior on any bosses that do not stun/seduce, or anything that will disrupt their combo. That means NO Zak, Ht, Targa, Pianus, or Pap.

They won't be able to pin bf due to their lack of rush, and their attacks are not consistent. That leaves.... Scarlion, and ummmm.... nothing. I'm not sure about PB, but I know he seduces, and probably stuns.

Without their combo over, what I think is 200-300, their dpm is worse than mages.

If I missed anything, call me on it.
11/02/09 +
Yohzu
19 Scania Rogue
 
Holy crap. have you seen them do combos? There moves are slick and do high dmg.
11/02/09 +
Ewabrawler
51 Scania Brawler
 
HEY MAX! oh yes, i agree.
:D
11/02/09 +
TokyHoe
69 Windia Gunslinger
 
Lol, low damage?

Looks like you never experienced one past 70?
11/02/09 +
EcstasyHeal
70 Scania Priest
 
studag111: Aran will train at the same speed as Heroes (4th job only, faster in 2nd and 3rd, but they are rediculously easy, even without leech.)

Their DPM will be superior on any bosses that do not stun/seduce, or anything that will disrupt their combo. That means NO Zak, Ht, Targa, Pianus, or Pap.
Look up a Zakum video with an Aran, then come back and say that. And every class gets pwned by seduce.
They won't be able to pin bf due to their lack of rush, and their attacks are not consistent. That leaves.... Scarlion, and ummmm.... nothing. I'm not sure about PB, but I know he seduces, and probably stuns.
Smart knockback pwns pretty much all mobile bosses. I'm not sure about BF though because of his invincibility rate.
Without their combo over, what I think is 200-300, their dpm is worse than mages.
Look up an Aran video and say that. With their combo under 100 they are still high up maybe under MM. Over 100 they are top notch with BM, Sair. With SE, they pwn all classes in DPM.
If I missed anything, call me on it.
Well, your whole post was pretty much wrong.


Read the quote.
11/02/09 +
Wetting
131 Windia Corsair
 
Lestrange: That's good to know.
Not that I care about Arans...


Then why comment?
OT: they'll be weak and gradually stronger, like gunslingers..but the playing style is very different. I don't think a lot of people will stick with it.
11/02/09 +
Ewabrawler
51 Scania Brawler
 
well Max i think Aran looks pretty cool >:C
weak, but fun.
Nov 02* +
ODERS
145 Mardia Hero
 
Maybe you should look up some more videos, that Aran didn't get stunned in that video because he was only attacking the arms, look for one during the bodies, they fail.

Not too sure about smart knockback, so they may become bf people once they hit 17x-18x once they can take a hit. They still wont be able to keep him successfully pinned all that easily.

Combo under 100 does not give them good damage output whatsoever, nuff said.

You werent wrong, but you werent right.
11/02/09 +
ThunderNekoX
51 Scania Brawler
 
Aran's pwn every class in the game.
Period.
11/02/09 +
SpikedShot
127 Windia Corsair
 
I think all this talk about Arans and whatnot is too early. We still don't have all the necessary information on it yet, and the ones who actually do the math to compare (theoretically) haven't even done the comparisons. So why count chickens before they hatch?
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Nov 02* +
Redioan
81 DemethosGMS Outlaw
 
studag111: Aran will train at the same speed as Heroes (4th job only, faster in 2nd and 3rd, but they are rediculously easy, even without leech.)

Their DPM will be superior on any bosses that do not stun/seduce, or anything that will disrupt their combo. That means NO Zak, Ht, Targa, Pianus, or Pap.

They won't be able to pin bf due to their lack of rush, and their attacks are not consistent. That leaves.... Scarlion, and ummmm.... nothing. I'm not sure about PB, but I know he seduces, and probably stuns.

Without their combo over, what I think is 200-300, their dpm is worse than mages.

If I missed anything, call me on it.

They do have rush....
It's called Final Take.

Final Take -
1 MP -10 50% damage Attacks 5 enemies
2 MP -10 51% damage Attacks 5 enemies
3 MP -10 52% damage Attacks 5 enemies
4 MP -10 53% damage Attacks 5 enemies
5 MP -10 54% damage Attacks 6 enemies
6 MP -12 55% damage Attacks 6 enemies
7 MP -12 56% damage Attacks 6 enemies
8 MP -12 57% damage Attacks 6 enemies
9 MP -12 58% damage Attacks 7 enemies
10 MP -12 59% damage Attacks 7 enemies
11 MP -14 60% damage Attacks 7 enemies
12 MP -14 61% damage Attacks 7 enemies
13 MP -14 62% damage Attacks 8 enemies
14 MP -14 63% damage Attacks 8 enemies
15 MP -14 64% damage Attacks 8 enemies
16 MP -16 65% damage Attacks 8 enemies
17 MP -16 66% damage Attacks 9 enemies
18 MP -16 67% damage Attacks 9 enemies
19 MP -16 68% damage Attacks 9 enemies
20 MP -16 70% damage Attacks 9 enemies
21 MP -18 72% damage Attacks 10 enemies
22 MP -18 74% damage Attacks 10 enemies
23 MP -18 76% damage Attacks 10 enemies
24 MP -18 78% damage Attacks 10 enemies
25 MP -18 80% damage Attacks 11 enemies
26 MP -20 82% damage Attacks 11 enemies
27 MP -20 84% damage Attacks 11 enemies
28 MP -20 86% damage Attacks 11 enemies
29 MP -20 88% damage Attacks 12 enemies
30 MP -20 90% damage Attacks 12 enemies
What Aran's Rush looks like - link (youtube)
Also, I dare you to say this Aran is weak. (youtube)
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