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Nov 04 2009 +
redpitbull01
74 Bera I/L Mage
 
Allah is not a Muslim God! :O

I know, surprising isn't it?
There is no " Muslim God " or " Muslim Version of God "

Allah is just an Arabic word that means " The one and only, true God "

Reason I made this thread is cuz I'm tired of hearing ignorant idiots * trend revolves around white people more * saying stuff like " Allah is the devil "
Thinking their just insulting Muslims, but in reality, your insulting your own religion and making an idiot out of yourself :

Just so you know
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11/04/09 +
AirWarrior1
123 Bellocan Dark Knight
 
You're right, there is only one universal God; Allah is the spirtual name of God in Islam; By the way, has anyone even heard of or talk about Sikhism, the most recent major religion in the world (5th largest)? Research on it, and its holy scripture and compare it with others, it contains one of the most profound things you'll ever read; It is the most practical religion in existence as well...(Just had to ask this question :D)
Nov 04* +
Mstormer
128 Scania F/P Arch Mage
 
Aminer: The thing is
Muslims worship only one god the (creator)
Christians worship 3 gods Jesus, god and mariam. Some worship jesus only. Some worship jesus and god.
Judaism You can't be a jew unless your parents were jews. So they believe if you weren't born a jew your going to hell. Which makes it racist.


Mariam? Eh, you have your facts wrong on that one, even if you were referring to mary or something.
While there was a time in the Catholic's church history in which it made statements that lead many to believe that it was polytheistic, this did not last. Unfortunately, it would appear as though Muslim people maintained this misconception and continue to generalize it. Frankly, as far as I'm aware, to a Muslim: being a Christian is viewed simply as "Catholic" or other similar "sects", without any real realization of the key and major differences which are essential in order to rightly categorize protestantism as well as properly understand it.

In any event, my purpose is not to debate any of the above as every individual I've discussed it with from that viewpoint has been completely close-minded to any of it which has resulted in going in illogical circles.

I will say this however: Protestant Christianity today should give Islam a great deal of credit for preventing it from being wiped out during key times in history up to this very day (I believe that God providentially used them to accomplish some of His purposes, clearly so historically anyway). Every time it was in danger of extinction (such as from Catholicism during the reformation), Islam stepped in and saved the day by staying the oppressors hand by one means or another. This is briefly outlined by Schuon, Frithjof in Dimensions of Islam p. 69:

"Islam has perpetuated up to our own day the Biblical world, which Christianity, once Europeanized, could no longer represent. Catholicism would quickly have invaded the whole of the Near East, and this would have involved the destruction of Orthodoxy and the other Eastern Churches and the Romanization - and so the Europeanization - of our world up to the boarders of India; the Biblical world would have died. One could say that Islam has had the providential role of halting time…"
11/04/09 +
Aminz
50 Broa Fighter
 
Why do you guys worship the cross?
Btw we don't believe jesus was crucified. God saved him and used a volunteer decoy in his place.
Nov 04* +
Mstormer
128 Scania F/P Arch Mage
 
Aminer: Why do you guys worship the cross?
Btw we don't believe jesus was crucified. God saved him and used a volunteer decoy in his place.


"You guys"?
If you meant Christians, or rather: "Catholics" they don't as far as I know, and if some do, they shouldn't.
What basis do you have for your viewpoint however?
11/04/09 +
Aminz
50 Broa Fighter
 
Mindstormer: "You guys"?
If you meant Christians, or rather: "Catholics" they don't as far as I know, and if some do, they shouldn't.
What basis do you have for your viewpoint however?


I mean why do I see many people with cross chains and cross tattoos. On top of the church there is a cross? In the church there are pictures of some guy being crucified.
Nov 04* +
Mstormer
128 Scania F/P Arch Mage
 
Aminer: I mean why do I see many people with cross chains and cross tattoos. On top of the church there is a cross? In the church there are pictures of some guy being crucified.


Some do that, though I disagree with it since it has a tendency to become more of an idol thing.
From the perspective of what they associate it with and its representation, sure, but the object itself should not be an object of worship.

Would you mind supporting your viewpoint as previously described regarding the decoy thing? (I realize that this may just be an idea presumably from your particular sect in Islam, though I'm not familiar enough to know for certain, which is why I ask).
11/05/09 +
Aminz
50 Broa Fighter
 
Mindstormer: Some do that, though I disagree with it since it has a tendency to become more of an idol thing.
From the perspective of what they associate it with and its representation, sure, but the object itself should not be an object of worship.

Would you mind supporting your viewpoint as previously described regarding the decoy thing? (I realize that this may just be an idea presumably from your particular sect in Islam, though I'm not familiar enough to know for certain, which is why I ask).


Basically when the jews tried to kill jesus. God raised jesus into the sky. Then god made a volunteer to look exactly like Jesus in appearance to be crucified.
Wikipedia explains it better
"Islamic texts categorically deny the crucifixion and death of Jesus at the hands of the Jews. The Qur'an states that the Jews sought to kill Jesus, but they did not kill or crucify him, although a likeness of it was shown to them. Instead, he was raised alive unto the heavens:
According to some Muslim traditions, Jesus was replaced by a double"
Nov 05* +
Mstormer
128 Scania F/P Arch Mage
 
Aminer: Basically when the jews tried to kill jesus. God raised jesus into the sky. Then god made a volunteer to look exactly like Jesus in appearance to be crucified.
Wikipedia explains it better
"Islamic texts categorically deny the crucifixion and death of Jesus at the hands of the Jews. The Qur'an states that the Jews sought to kill Jesus, but they did not kill or crucify him, although a likeness of it was shown to them. Instead, he was raised alive unto the heavens:
According to some Muslim traditions, Jesus was replaced by a double"


Interesting. I suppose that many Muslims must have absolutely no clue about the sacrificial system and origin of sin and its consequences thereof then from the Scriptural perspective since the entire Old Testament and many of its prophets repeatedly predicted that the Jewish nation's Messiah would be rejected by them and would die for them BY their hands (by means of 300+ prophecies which He perfectly fulfilled). Just as they would sacrifice a lamb to atone for their sins, this represented directly that they had faith that the Messiah would come and be the true "Lamb" to remove it. Jesus was said to be the true Lamb that takes away the sin of the world. Therefore, if He did not die, the entire world is lost according to the entire Scriptural record in its unmodified original state.

That said, I am aware of some of the differences on the Christian and Muslim viewpoints of the origin of evil and its consequences, so the above is more of a description for the sake of explanation for the alternate viewpoint so that you have some idea as to what it's about. I have no need to convince you one way or another personally, just think of it as an informative freebie.
11/05/09 +
FierySada
30 Bera Brawler
 
Haha, I also hate it when people have no idea and say "The muslim God".
But Allah is only one of his 99 names mentioned in the Quran =].
Nov 05* +
xxxnoobiex
103 Scania Hermit
 
assasin123: No matter what.
Jesus Christ, is the only God out there.


1 god yes but not jesus christ im thinking

@ mindstomer: i love the fact that u said muslims and not jst him lmao shows how ur ignorant eh?
11/05/09 +
Mstormer
128 Scania F/P Arch Mage
 
gimliofdurin: 1 god yes but not jesus christ im thinking

@ mindstomer: i love the fact that u said muslims and not jst him lmao shows how ur ignorant eh?


Not at all, it's something I've come across quite frequently. Obviously there are exceptions, I didn't mean to generalize everyone.
11/05/09 +
FierySada
30 Bera Brawler
 
ShuraiPu: Expressing my dislike for Islam does not imply that I am in part with any religion. By referring to Allah/God means I am referring to 'their'(the person I am directing the insult to) God(s), not any other. Now go do the world some good and lick an electric fence.

I hate Islam, if you want my honest thought out opinion.


What made you hate it? Something happened to you? Heard something or seen anything?
11/05/09 +
Aminz
50 Broa Fighter
 
Mindstormer: Interesting. I suppose that many Muslims must have absolutely no clue about the sacrificial system and origin of sin and its consequences thereof then from the Scriptural perspective since the entire Old Testament and many of its prophets repeatedly predicted that the Jewish nation's Messiah would be rejected by them and would die for them BY their hands (by means of 300+ prophecies which He perfectly fulfilled). Just as they would sacrifice a lamb to atone for their sins, this represented directly that they had faith that the Messiah would come and be the true "Lamb" to remove it. Jesus was said to be the true Lamb that takes away the sin of the world. Therefore, if He did not die, the entire world is lost according to the entire Scriptural record in its unmodified original state.

That said, I am aware of some of the differences on the Christian and Muslim viewpoints of the origin of evil and its consequences, so the above is more of a description for the sake of explanation for the alternate viewpoint so that you have some idea as to what it's about. I have no need to convince you one way or another personally, just think of it as an informative freebie.


I just woke up and I don't understand what your talking about?
I said what the quran says about jesus.
You believe jesus died for our sins? ok? what do you want me to do?
11/05/09 +
9Devil
50 DemethosGMS Assassin
 
i am Muslim ..
from united arab emirates ..
anyway ..

Allah is god =.=

so dont say anything that you dont know .. idiot =.=
11/05/09 +
Aminz
50 Broa Fighter
 
9Devil: i am Muslim ..
from united arab emirates ..
anyway ..

Allah is god =.=

so dont say anything that you dont know .. idiot =.=


ahlan wasahlan.
Ur muslim and your name is 9devil lol.'
@the person that hates islam with passion.
Why?
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