redpitbull01: We recognize all prophets as well as Jesus, who is a prophet. Muhammad S.A.W was the last and final messenger of Allah.

Blazeeeee: Well, yes.
By 'recognize' I meant they considered Muhammed the most important.

blahs: But that's still their name for God..

redpitbull01: The way into heaven is a free gift? so everyone gets to go to heaven? Clarify me if I'm wrong.

Cletus: You failed to answer my question in the last thread, so I'll ask it again here.
If Jesus is a prophet in Islam, then why do they blatantly ignore his teaching, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."?

Cletus: Yes, it is a free gift. But you have to accept it. No amount of good deeds will earn you eternal life(Isaiah 64:6 All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away.)
Eternal life is only attainable is by putting complete faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, putting your sins under his blood. If heaven was achieveable by any other means, then Jesus's death wouldn't have been necessary.

Cletus: Yes, it is a free gift. But you have to accept it. No amount of good deeds will earn you eternal life(Isaiah 64:6 All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away.)
Eternal life is only attainable is by putting complete faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, putting your sins under his blood. If heaven was achieveable by any other means, then Jesus's death wouldn't have been necessary.

redpitbull01: See, this is where Muslims say that's incorrect and where I cannot believe you. Muslims don't believe Jesus died, Allah would not let one of his beloved prophets come to harm let alone die. Basically what your saying is it doesn't matter what i do as long as i believe in Jesus Christ.

In Islam, no one will take responsibility for your sins, nor can you blame your sins on anyone else.
On the day of Judgment, every man and woman will be called forth to Allah to atone for their sins.

SlooowPoke: Regardless of whether Jesus was crucified or not, it has no impact on Islam as a whole. Islam acknowleges the other prophets, and tells of their stories and the significance of each, but in the end it all comes down to the Quran.

What does the Quran teach? So much that I hardly doubt you looked into.
It teaches to love and respect your parents, and that you can't enter heaven without being good to your parents. People say Islam discriminates against women because it trys to protect them with the scarf? Well Islam actually puts women above men, it says a women should be treated like a precious gem, and that heaven is under the feet of the mother, and if you aren't good to her you won't be able to enter.
It teaches to love and protect. Contrary to what people believe Islam doesnt encourage killing non muslims, that part is taken out of context. Islam says killing a human is like killing all of humanity sin wise, and saving a life is like saving all of humanity. Most of the "killing verses" refer to wars that took place during that era.
It also teaches being kind to Animals. We have the hallal killing system which is painless for the animal and makes the food more healthy. It also teaches to treat animals with respect. Theres a story of a man who was terrible all his life but was in the desert and found a dog dying of thirst. He found a well and put water in his boot, and fed the dog, and he went to heaven for that.
It also teaches to avoid anything that harms your body like alcohol. It acknowledges alchohol having benefits but the negatives outweigh the positives.

Theres just soo much more, the quran is jampacked with good values, people like to take things out of context tho.

Aminer: Mohammed killed his enemies? not true

Mindstormer: For the sake of time, I'll start with the first one then. He didn't?
http://www.answering-islam.org/Muhammad/Enemies/asma.html

Mindstormer: Thing is, if Jesus is who the Old and New Testament prophets said He was, that matters a great deal.
Islam is not so different. Most of the standards you believe in, I too believe from a Biblical basis, though admittedly, much of Christianity today may not.
For example, some things I believe from the Bible include: There is an almighty, all-knowing, loving God. There will be a final judgement and we are mortally responsible for our actions. There will be a final resurrection from the dead at the Messiah's return. It is our duty to help and assist the poor. Prayer is of great importance. God forbids alcohol, gambling, and pork. We must obey God, and there is such a thing as good and evil.

I don't deny for a second that the Quran teaches many good things. I just disagree on the issue of inspiration of the work based on the Biblical requirements for determining a true prophet from someone who just writes good things. I respect that you believe that it did come from a prophet, though It is something I am forced to disagree with based on Scriptural evidence.

Some of the things I have a problem with due to differences are as follows, and please feel free to point out if any are inaccurate of Islam, as there exists the possibility that I maintain some misconceptions:
Mohammed wrote everything Himself
Jesus Wrote nothing about Himself

Mohammed killed his enemies.
Jesus prayed for His enemies.

Islam requires a sacrifice to appease God.
Christianity reveals the character of a God who was willing to become a sacrifice to save those that He loved. (A point I realize you would strictly disagree with, but I'm simply stating the belief, not starting a debate).

Mohammed had no witnesses that he saw what he saw.
Jesus had thousands.

Islam demands that people respect and honour God in return for His reward and power In their lives and, their level of commitment to that demand determines their salvation.
Christianity offers a choice that God gives people to respond to His great love for them and freely gives them the gift of salvation and power to live in such a way that brings peace and joy to the heart and a great reward at the end... to spend Eternity with the one that has redeemed His people.

Again, "Christianity" is such a loosely used and misrepresented term, I almost don't prefer to use it myself. Please don't let misconceptions about what you perceive typical (and usually hypocritical) Christianity to be, distract you from the points made.