shiv668: Good job u learn this in 9th grade too u know u could of waited and let people find out for themselfs

GeminiJoker: Ya know I had a very enlightening discussion last night. You know why were in this war? Does anyone know? It's because we have some butt hurt, egotistical muslum who wants an entire country annihalited because we forced them to fight the russians with us and protected them and when we pulled out we left their country in shambles. Second reason is because when we tried to westernize them we "insulted" the Arabic agriculture and have corrupted it. Let me tell you how pathetic this nomad society was. We built these people a small base like city, gave it to a bunch of nomads and they set up tents outside the frekkin house.

These people that we are fighting for are so rural, so out of date that they would rather live in tents then anything else. They were given money, which is like giving a gorilla a machine gun and teaching him how to use it. We should have given beads for their oil and honestly we wouldn't be in this predicament. You people have no idea how difficult this war is. The russians tried this very same thing and lost, you can't simply go in thinking "OH LETS WIN ON TERRORISM". Frankly they already won, yep, osama won. Terrorism is essentially to force change on a society, wouldn't you say america has changed?

How do you defeat a belief, an opinion, an idea? You can't, all osoma wants is american's dead, not captured, not to admit defeat but dead. Thers no end to the war and who knows how far it will go, that's the scary part.

ViolinFTW: Afgans aren't arab -.-.

Cletus: 32 A.D.
I don't see where you're going with this.

redpitbull01: Wonderful, you managed to spell Afghan wrong



-_- seriously?
You keep going on and on about how Jesus died for us. That is the Christian view
The Islamic view is that he didn't die. Your view is totally different from ours.

We didn't ignore his teachings because he didn't really teach us anything. He may have said alot in your Bible, but for us Muslims, he didn't say anything. Correct me if i'm wrong

Cletus: You're wrong. He taught about love and compassion, much like your Muhammad did. Or are you so close-minded that you deny this aswell?

redpitbull01: Is this in the Bible as well? Or did he teach all this in the Quran?

Cletus: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe Muslims read some form the gospel, known has the Injil, which should have his teachings plain and simple.

whuk: Ohohoho, Quite the interesting thread,
I think I shall jump in, being a committed Muslim myself.

blahs: But that's still their name for God..

redpitbull01: His teachings aren't the exact same as those of the bible. and it doesn't change anything. Muslims still say and believe that one has to work hard for rewards in the life after. and that Jesus didn't die for our sins, and we can't all just do w/e as long as we follow Jesus's teachings.

HangingOn: Jews didn't crucify Jesus, FYI. It was the Romans.

Cletus: Christianity does not say that, quit assuming things. Didn't you read what I wrote in the previous page? It is obedience to God's word, plus Jesus. Even if you have lived a good life, you've still sinned. Sin is always punishable with death. And I'll back that up with some even you should agree with.
Lamb sacrifices during Old Testament times clearly demonstrate the cost of our sins. That being preached in the Torah, you should perfectly agree with this. Why then, do you attempt to bypass God's perfect plan of salvation? EVERY SIN IS PUNISHABLE WITH GOD'S ETERNAL WRATH. It doesn't matter how many good deeds you do, If you have sinned, you are still guilty.
Let me put this in simpler terms. Say there is a man who murders another. When the man is brought before the court, the judge charges the man with murder and sentences him with the death penalty.
The man then pleads,"But look at all of the marvelous works I have done! I have donated blood, I have helped the sick, I even give to charities! Surely the good outweights the bad?"
But the judge would surely say," None-the-less, you have broken the law, and every lawless act deserves punishment. Depart from me, ye who violate the law."