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+Friend | Mar 26 2008
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HealingAure
31 Khaini Cleric
 
Ah, screw it. It's pretty clear that I won't be updating anymore. If anyone wants to repost this, they can.

Raw version can be found here: link
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+Friend | 04/06/08
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EviiErk
83 Khaini Sniper
 
hutchman said: "What's the average %/hr a lvl 45 xbowman should aim for?"
Back in the day, around 12-15%. Now, probably at least 20%.

+Friend | 04/06/08
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SirInternet
40 Khaini Gunslinger
 
sapphire8 said: "Yeah, Squids 2 is usually squid parties, and if you're under level 92 you don't get exp from their kills.

I don't know what the level req would be if you were to try soloing it, though."


You can solo it the same time as the first map, just that that map is a bit bigger. There is a lot of places to use Puppet and snipe. Really though I have never seen a Squid party in Khaini.
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+Friend | 04/06/08
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LfirearrowL
77 Bera Sniper
 
spiritrival said: "Back in the day, around 12-15%. Now, probably at least 20%."


I got at least 40% an hour with no 2x in my 40's. I get 20% an hour at level 75 xD

Now with all the PQ's and new monsters leveling to 70 is a joke

+Friend | 04/07/08
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kkMD
92 Bera Ranger
 
im reading the whole guide and like half way on the 72-something AR/E gryphons spot the links aren't typed in.
the guide said: "Either way, the map rotation is the same: refer to [url=]this picture[/url] or [url=]this guide by player1or2[/url]."

+Friend | edited: Apr 08 2008
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HealingAure
31 Khaini Cleric
 
spiritrival said: "Back in the day, around 12-15%. Now, probably at least 20%."

Nah, that's only you. At level 45, I insisted on training on platoon chronos (I did find 2 esthers) and that was still at least 18%/hr, and I did measure 22%+ a few times while partying with my sin friend.

And, sigh. I haven't been keeping track of updates.

+Friend | 04/08/08
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EviiErk
83 Khaini Sniper
 
sapphire8 said: "
Nah, that's only you. At level 45, I insisted on training on platoon chronos (I did find 2 esthers) and that was still at least 18%/hr, and I did measure 22%+ a few times while partying with my sin friend.

And, sigh. I haven't been keeping track of updates."
Oh, well, whatever. Either way, it's pretty much doubled.

+Friend | 04/09/08
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Heshihobo
76 Khaini Sniper
 
I was getting 35-40% at level 45 training on STDs, and a bit less at CPQ. Platoons are a waste of effort anyway. Nightmares give more exp, have less life, and also drop esthers :p

+Friend | 04/10/08
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HealingAure
31 Khaini Cleric
 
It's Heshi's Philosophy again :O

Not only were Nightmares not out yet at the time, Platoons drop 60% glove scrolls (which I never got, but ehh...), are in Ludi (which was the best pot shop at the time, and near what was then the only PQ besides Kerning), theoretically more mobbable (if you had a mind to get yourself blasted by long range unavoidable purple magic all day, anyway), and easier to shoot without whacking.

I wouldn't go as far as to say Platoons > Nightmares, but they definitely aren't 100% obsolete.

+Friend | 04/10/08
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ph1shy
50 Broa Assassin
 
im not so sure about your 1hit vs 2hit section.
i always use efficiency...
say i 1 shot horny mushrooms but 2 shot boars
horny mushrooms is obviously the better choice.
42 exp from boars (2shots)
70 exp from 2 mushrooms (2shots)

+Friend | 04/10/08
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iShoots
76 Scania Ranger
 
Theres a faster alternate way to V/H
To get to Vanity Room/Sophilia Room quicker,
Once you enter Foyer head up the stairs to the 2nd level and go towards the door to the left, you'll appear in another room with a staircase in the center, head up the stairs and enter the door directly above, you'll then appear in the room where both V/H rooms are located.
This way is alot faster, and a common route I was when I lost maps due to the MB glitch.

Yes repost but this way IS faster.

+Friend | edited: Apr 10 2008
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Nerzual
40 Demethos Brawler
 
Oh. My. God. You are my hero...Heroine, same thing. Regaurdless, AMAZING guide!
If only every class had something this well thought out and percise....

Rock on.

+Friend | 04/10/08
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EviiErk
83 Khaini Sniper
 
RAMB0 said: "im not so sure about your 1hit vs 2hit section.
i always use efficiency...
say i 1 shot horny mushrooms but 2 shot boars
horny mushrooms is obviously the better choice.
42 exp from boars (2shots)
70 exp from 2 mushrooms (2shots)"
It depends where you're training. At Land of Wild Boar I, I found that I almost always had a Wild Boar to shoot at. If not, I'd just walk for five seconds and kill more. If the Mushrooms were spread far apart, Wild Boars would give you more Exp because you're barely moving.

+Friend | 04/10/08
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SirInternet
40 Khaini Gunslinger
 
RAMB0 said: "im not so sure about your 1hit vs 2hit section.
i always use efficiency...
say i 1 shot horny mushrooms but 2 shot boars
horny mushrooms is obviously the better choice.
42 exp from boars (2shots)
70 exp from 2 mushrooms (2shots)"


Depends on the frequency you can get to the monster too. Like at the top of HHG1 there is a nice spawn of Green Mushrooms, but also there is a lot of KS'ers there. Also because some people want to see new monsters and not want to keep on training on mushrooms.
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+Friend | 04/11/08
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ackox
80 Bera Hermit
 
I'm looking for a place where I can make profit from. I'm not sure about Coolies, because my PoopJuice damage sucks.
My level 1 strafe does (on average): 100 100 200 400

+Friend | edited: Apr 11 2008
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Lcedfire
144 Windia Bow Master
 
kevvl13 said: "

1k damage total? That....is.....How do you manage that?"


no attack glove, against a squid, unscrolled below average lvl 60 bow?

other than that, no clue. that's wayyyy too low...

EDIT: you should probably make a note that the haf maps suck so badly for rangers it's not even funny. i swear i pulled off a whopping 2% an hour at level 90 there, trying to do one of the quests when leafy came out. the fact you need all cures completely wrecks those maps. if anything, its a sniper only map... if ANY of the 10 classes at all decide to train there...

2nd EDIT: i don't think the wyvern maps are all that great... outside of aqua, archers don't typically perform that well on vertical maps. and there are barely any AR/E sniping locations, too... at 4th job they might have potential, but in 3rd they definitely don't for rangers.

3rd EDIT: should add in a section on skeles, and another section on cornians... i believe those are normal 4th job stomping grounds. Though most of basil is not 4th job, so i don't know if there'd be much of a point.
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