Noob merchants screwed the economy
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EDIT: Yes, I am aware that there are multiple other threads on this issue. However, all of the ones I saw were extremely misinformed, in my opinion. EDIT 2: I am also aware that the Maple Anniversary is part of this inflation. However, I feel that it is unnecessary for the greedy hogs who call themselves merchants to abuse the influx of eager scrollers that much Before you come flame me for this, at least read what I have... The problem is, the new idiots who read a merchanting guides don't KNOW anything about actual merchanting, they only know the basics. Yes, they know "buy low, sell high". However, in actuality, it's much more complicated than that. You see many noobs spamming B>SCROLLS@@@@@@@ in the FM, and when you trade them, they offer outrageously low prices. I have a gut feeling that these are the same noobs with 2-3mil higher than normal prices in their FM stores, too... These new noob merchants are ruining it for the proer merchants who actually know what they're doing, since they're buying out all the scrolls and the scrolls end up sitting there in the shops being unsold. This causes richer people to just buy the scrolls due to impatience for new supply, which in turn, raises the price of things. (You walk up to a store and see a glove attack sold for 10 mil *This is impossible, I know.. Just making my point* This makes you, in turn, feel that you can sell glove attacks for around 10mil, too, and it would be sold. This ends up raising the prices... Before you people start saying that's what merchants do, this is NOT what they do. They don't raise prices again and again. They buy low, and sell at a flat rate. They don't increase the prices of which they sell items. They watch the economy, and keep their prices a bit above average. The noob merchants are the ones selling really high, and causing the economy to skyrocket. Jihadi said: "It's not just "n00b merchants" as you put it. The reason scroll prices are going up so much is mostly due to the death of LPQ and the rise of MTS. It's that simple. Granted, I'm sure some people do take advantage of the market like that, raising prices by buying out supplies, the fact of the matter is, LPQ was a source for a LOT of scrolls. Now almost no one LPQs, much less scrolls coming into circulation. MTS takes out even more scrolls, there's usually like, 40+ pages of overpriced scrolls of any "common" kind, (60% claw, or staff, w/e), that just sit there and rot. Much much less supply, perhaps even more demand, especially with the new Maple items, and people wanting to scroll them. Be glad you're not on Kradia, 20mill + for 30% claw scrolls, like, 8-10 mill for 60%s, 3 mill + 60% spears, it's sick." This person makes a good point, too. However, the "some people" who take advantage of this are the greedy baboons who only care about their personal profit, and not the welfare of others. When I was merchanting, I made it a point to try to buy lower, and sell a tiny bit higher... I never put items for more than 1mil above regular prices in my stores, since I know what it's like to be poor... Replies
The only thing we can count on is the maple economy to crash or something. That would be funny. =D It would be a maple great drepesssion!
although i agree about this, (i myself being frustrated by the people who don't know what theyre doing) also remember that we're in windia. our prices are always gonna be messed up due to the large merchanting guilds such as blackmarket, mstores, hustlasmart, billionair, etc. put those guilds together, and you have the basis of what is needed to form an oligopoly.
natedoggydog said: "although i agree about this, (i myself being frustrated by the people who don't know what theyre doing) also remember that we're in windia. our prices are always gonna be messed up due to the large merchanting guilds such as blackmarket, mstores, hustlasmart, billionair, etc. put those guilds together, and you have the basis of what is needed to form an oligopoly." This is in Bello, too..
Seriously, Glove atks went up from 2-3mil to 6mil in kradiaClaw atks were 5-12mil wayy back then...now they're 30mil and RISING
FINALLY! A good thread *gives it thumbs up*. I agree with you. The prices are soaring because of these people.
I'm sure when you started mercahnting, that is what you did. What they need is experience. Be patient, they'll learn. Or why don't you tell them the proper way to buy/sell?
Let's look at this:I'm assuming 1/4 of Maple uses Basil. About 1/8 of that (1/32) actually use the forums. Then 1/2 of that read Isile's guide, and thats errr 1/64. Then 1/3 of thhat actually uses that guide. I'm assuming, it's not the truth. Thats about 1/192... Not a lot is it? Edit: nevermind =/ That still is a lot, 2/4 uses Basil not 3/4s cause a lot of those people (You know PQ idiots that only use 100%'s. newbies) don't use it New Blog: Beta - FireFox 3 Ftw!
OMG lol people don't understand gosh MOD just removed the god dam MERCHANT guide PLEASE.
Oh.I'm a noob merchant. I buy scrolls for reasonable prices. And sell them for about a 500k-1m profit, depending on the demand. But I'm rich. =D
Buying scrolls extremely low and then getting them sold at a very high price doesn't seem like a noob merchanter to me New Pic: Hanna
Read my post above. Please. New Blog: Beta - FireFox 3 Ftw!
Kazoothebat said: "Did these "noob merchants" just appear like yesterday? Cuz I've seen 3 complaining threads about it in the last 10 minutes. You're gonna have to deal with it, man. :|" been here since january of 2008 and then after isslie's guide i saw a huge increase in them she's the biggest waste i bet she can't even make enough money she's not even that nice the only reason why ppl dont talk to her is cuz she is friends with high guilds in scania
Xuadia said: "I'm sure when you started mercahnting, that is what you did. What they need is experience. Be patient, they'll learn. Or why don't you tell them the proper way to buy/sell?" Actually, that isn't what I did. I observed the prices and how the scrolls fluctuated due to the incoming updates and then started buying and selling... beginning with smaller items and moving up to more expensive ones as I saw the prices when I roamed the FM. I didn't cluelessly price items as the "noob" merchants of today are doing. EDIT: aznchaos060 said: " Oh. I'm a noob merchant. I buy scrolls for reasonable prices. And sell them for about a 500k-1m profit, depending on the demand. But I'm rich. =D" That's not noob merchant.. That's actually being smart in my book.
NewxAge said: " Actually, that isn't what I did. I observed the prices and how the scrolls fluctuated due to the incoming updates and then started buying and selling... beginning with smaller items and moving up to more expensive ones as I saw the prices when I roamed the FM. I didn't cluelessly price items as the "noob" merchants of today are doing." Please, read my post. New Blog: Beta - FireFox 3 Ftw!
Xuadia said: "I'm sure when you started mercahnting, that is what you did. What they need is experience. Be patient, they'll learn. Or why don't you tell them the proper way to buy/sell?" but you see, the problem is that EVERYONE can't merchant or else the system won't work. if everyone is buying low/selling high constantly and jacking prices up, the will be hardly any more low sellers and merchanting as we know it will fail. |
