Noob merchants screwed the economy
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EDIT: Yes, I am aware that there are multiple other threads on this issue. However, all of the ones I saw were extremely misinformed, in my opinion. EDIT 2: I am also aware that the Maple Anniversary is part of this inflation. However, I feel that it is unnecessary for the greedy hogs who call themselves merchants to abuse the influx of eager scrollers that much Before you come flame me for this, at least read what I have... The problem is, the new idiots who read a merchanting guides don't KNOW anything about actual merchanting, they only know the basics. Yes, they know "buy low, sell high". However, in actuality, it's much more complicated than that. You see many noobs spamming B>SCROLLS@@@@@@@ in the FM, and when you trade them, they offer outrageously low prices. I have a gut feeling that these are the same noobs with 2-3mil higher than normal prices in their FM stores, too... These new noob merchants are ruining it for the proer merchants who actually know what they're doing, since they're buying out all the scrolls and the scrolls end up sitting there in the shops being unsold. This causes richer people to just buy the scrolls due to impatience for new supply, which in turn, raises the price of things. (You walk up to a store and see a glove attack sold for 10 mil *This is impossible, I know.. Just making my point* This makes you, in turn, feel that you can sell glove attacks for around 10mil, too, and it would be sold. This ends up raising the prices... Before you people start saying that's what merchants do, this is NOT what they do. They don't raise prices again and again. They buy low, and sell at a flat rate. They don't increase the prices of which they sell items. They watch the economy, and keep their prices a bit above average. The noob merchants are the ones selling really high, and causing the economy to skyrocket. Jihadi said: "It's not just "n00b merchants" as you put it. The reason scroll prices are going up so much is mostly due to the death of LPQ and the rise of MTS. It's that simple. Granted, I'm sure some people do take advantage of the market like that, raising prices by buying out supplies, the fact of the matter is, LPQ was a source for a LOT of scrolls. Now almost no one LPQs, much less scrolls coming into circulation. MTS takes out even more scrolls, there's usually like, 40+ pages of overpriced scrolls of any "common" kind, (60% claw, or staff, w/e), that just sit there and rot. Much much less supply, perhaps even more demand, especially with the new Maple items, and people wanting to scroll them. Be glad you're not on Kradia, 20mill + for 30% claw scrolls, like, 8-10 mill for 60%s, 3 mill + 60% spears, it's sick." This person makes a good point, too. However, the "some people" who take advantage of this are the greedy baboons who only care about their personal profit, and not the welfare of others. When I was merchanting, I made it a point to try to buy lower, and sell a tiny bit higher... I never put items for more than 1mil above regular prices in my stores, since I know what it's like to be poor... 
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xlZlx said: "Yes PLEASE Removed the MErchant GUIDE! my thread was close by some mod =( horrible mod." suama is a perfectly decent mod. -_- And all you were doing is complaining...ugh, selfish much...Isilie put alotta effort into that guide and it helps people. Her guide is stickied, and it won't be removed. So stop whining about these "noob merchants" and get over yourself. New Pic: :3 Listing: R> Tearz0fWolfz, Lvl 85+
nicke105 said: "All I can say is, I'm glad I quit."
RazorFlash said: "Let's look at this: I'm assuming 1/4 of Maple uses Basil. About 1/8 of that (1/32) actually use the forums. Then 1/2 of that read Isile's guide, and thats errr 1/64. Then 1/3 of thhat actually uses that guide. I'm assuming, it's not the truth. Thats about 1/192... Not a lot is it?" If we assume you are right, which you aren't, then we would have to divide 3 million players of GMS by 192... That's a lot isn't it? And still if you say every player has 3 accounts, that leaves us with 1.000.000/192 = 5209. 5209 merchants? OMG?
Kazoothebat said: " suama is a perfectly decent mod. -_- And all you were doing is complaining...ugh, selfish much...Isilie put alotta effort into that guide and it helps people. Her guide is stickied, and it won't be removed. So stop whining about these "noob merchants" and get over yourself." I agree that Isilie's guide is really good, and I helped with part of it... *a really small part, but still* However, if she were to keep it up, I feel she should warn the new merchant-to-be's that there are limitations to the buy low, sell high strategy, and they should watch the economy. I'm not whining about the "noob merchants", either. Some people are saying that the actual merchants are the real economy killers, and I want to prove them wrong.
JulienL said: " If we assume you are right, which you aren't then we would have to divide 3 million players of GMS by 192... That's a lot isn't it? And still if you say every player has 3 accounts, that leaves us with 1.000.000/192 = 5209. 5209 merchants? OMG?" Oops then, I got pwned! New Blog: Beta - FireFox 3 Ftw!
JulienL said: " If we assume you are right, which you aren't then we would have to divide 3 million players of GMS by 192... That's a lot isn't it? And still if you say every player has 3 accounts, that leaves us with 1.000.000/192 = 5209. 5209 merchants? OMG?" Give the guy a dam break. All he's saying is that not all merchants use Basil, which is absolutely true. Most merchants I know and have traded with say they rarely use Basil for anything, aside from occasional price checks. New Pic: :3 Listing: R> Tearz0fWolfz, Lvl 85+
natedoggydog said: " in windia, claw att 30% scrolls now go for 20-30m in the fm" That's just wrong.. =| And I thought he was talkign about 60%'s or something..
NewxAge said: " I agree that Isilie's guide is really good, and I helped with part of it... *a really small part, but still* However, if she were to keep it up, I feel she should warn the new merchant-to-be's that there are limitations to the buy low, sell high strategy, and they should watch the economy. I'm not whining about the "noob merchants", either. Some people are saying that the actual merchants are the real economy killers, and I want to prove them wrong." That's an acceptable suggestion, yea. I've read the guide, I learned a few things from it, and I like it too. There's 37 pages of posts, and I imagine that most were comments about gratitude and discussion about the economy. New Pic: :3 Listing: R> Tearz0fWolfz, Lvl 85+
Kazoothebat said: " Give the guy a dam break. All he's saying is that not all merchants use Basil, which is absolutely true. Most merchants I know and have traded with say they rarely use Basil for anything, aside from occasional price checks." Those are the pro-er merchants. The "noob merchants" I'm talking about here are those who think they know a lot, and (excuse me for the stereotype) are usually around 10-14 *I am at that age, too, but there are some very immature people in this age group*. These people are the lurkers and wanna-be attention "snores" on Basil, who are rather active in lurking.
Kazoothebat said: " Give the guy a dam break. All he's saying is that not all merchants use Basil, which is absolutely true. Most merchants I know and have traded with say they rarely use Basil for anything, aside from occasional price checks." The guy is right, 5200 merchants are A LOT What your saying is right and you know with 100+ quitting and the newbies always PQing that don't need Basil will lower Basil's population... Of course the Newbies will be over whelmed at 7X+ with out PQs and will quit, thus lowering basil's chances of more people  New Blog: Beta - FireFox 3 Ftw!
Don't tell me you all are gonna quit a game just cause the economy is messed up.
Dude in Bera this thing happens too... It sucks, and more for a poor guy like me... And even for a Poor SIN like me ... I just can't afford the prices of my stuff
oooh, this reminds me, my personal price giver quit maple...any khainians kno prices really well that can help me?
LeFort said: "Don't tell me you all are gonna quit a game just cause the economy is messed up." That is very important, especially to Maple. To TS: I'm 12 so what? 14 is a lot of people in Maple pshhht, age 14 has the highest amounts of peeps out of who I know! XD New Blog: Beta - FireFox 3 Ftw!
Thats why you have the option to sell and buy. Stop crying. New Pic: Zomg not again!
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