Noob merchants screwed the economy
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EDIT: Yes, I am aware that there are multiple other threads on this issue. However, all of the ones I saw were extremely misinformed, in my opinion. EDIT 2: I am also aware that the Maple Anniversary is part of this inflation. However, I feel that it is unnecessary for the greedy hogs who call themselves merchants to abuse the influx of eager scrollers that much Before you come flame me for this, at least read what I have... The problem is, the new idiots who read a merchanting guides don't KNOW anything about actual merchanting, they only know the basics. Yes, they know "buy low, sell high". However, in actuality, it's much more complicated than that. You see many noobs spamming B>SCROLLS@@@@@@@ in the FM, and when you trade them, they offer outrageously low prices. I have a gut feeling that these are the same noobs with 2-3mil higher than normal prices in their FM stores, too... These new noob merchants are ruining it for the proer merchants who actually know what they're doing, since they're buying out all the scrolls and the scrolls end up sitting there in the shops being unsold. This causes richer people to just buy the scrolls due to impatience for new supply, which in turn, raises the price of things. (You walk up to a store and see a glove attack sold for 10 mil *This is impossible, I know.. Just making my point* This makes you, in turn, feel that you can sell glove attacks for around 10mil, too, and it would be sold. This ends up raising the prices... Before you people start saying that's what merchants do, this is NOT what they do. They don't raise prices again and again. They buy low, and sell at a flat rate. They don't increase the prices of which they sell items. They watch the economy, and keep their prices a bit above average. The noob merchants are the ones selling really high, and causing the economy to skyrocket. Jihadi said: "It's not just "n00b merchants" as you put it. The reason scroll prices are going up so much is mostly due to the death of LPQ and the rise of MTS. It's that simple. Granted, I'm sure some people do take advantage of the market like that, raising prices by buying out supplies, the fact of the matter is, LPQ was a source for a LOT of scrolls. Now almost no one LPQs, much less scrolls coming into circulation. MTS takes out even more scrolls, there's usually like, 40+ pages of overpriced scrolls of any "common" kind, (60% claw, or staff, w/e), that just sit there and rot. Much much less supply, perhaps even more demand, especially with the new Maple items, and people wanting to scroll them. Be glad you're not on Kradia, 20mill + for 30% claw scrolls, like, 8-10 mill for 60%s, 3 mill + 60% spears, it's sick." This person makes a good point, too. However, the "some people" who take advantage of this are the greedy baboons who only care about their personal profit, and not the welfare of others. When I was merchanting, I made it a point to try to buy lower, and sell a tiny bit higher... I never put items for more than 1mil above regular prices in my stores, since I know what it's like to be poor... Replies
NewxAge said: " Those are the pro-er merchants. The "noob merchants" I'm talking about here are those who think they know a lot, and (excuse me for the stereotype) are usually around 10-14 *I am at that age, too, but there are some very immature people in this age group*. These people are the lurkers and wanna-be attention "snores" on Basil, who are rather active in lurking." I believe most of it. You could PM Isilie and talk to her about it, I guess, since alotta blame about these "noob merchants" ends up directed at her. And if you've helped her already, I'm sure she'd agree to modify her guide a little to try and discourage the extremes of the "buy low, sell high" policy. New Video: Anime makes everything so dramatic.
LeFort said: "Don't tell me you all are gonna quit a game just cause the economy is messed up." im quittin now cuz of this and i wuz gonna quit anyways since i lost 70mill fmo diamond glitch and since my stuff arent worth much now 12 atk wg, 3/8luk pac, 2 dex necklace, 6 dex 4 slots bottom all useless now
It's not just "n00b merchants" as you put it. The reason scroll prices are going up so much is mostly due to the death of LPQ and the rise of MTS. It's that simple. Granted, I'm sure some people do take advantage of the market like that, raising prices by buying out supplies, the fact of the matter is, LPQ was a source for a LOT of scrolls. Now almost no one LPQs, much less scrolls coming into circulation. MTS takes out even more scrolls, there's usually like, 40+ pages of overpriced scrolls of any "common" kind, (60% claw, or staff, w/e), that just sit there and rot. Much much less supply, perhaps even more demand, especially with the new Maple items, and people wanting to scroll them. Be glad you're not on Kradia, 20mill + for 30% claw scrolls, like, 8-10 mill for 60%s, 3 mill + 60% spears, it's sick.
crewe127 said: "oooh, this reminds me, my personal price giver quit maple... any khainians kno prices really well that can help me?" I'd help but it takes me a week to reset what I know  So wait a week and I'll help New Blog: Beta - FireFox 3 Ftw!
RazorFlash said: " That is very important, especially to Maple. To TS: I'm 12 so what? 14 is a lot of people in Maple pshhht, age 14 has the highest amounts of peeps out of who I know! XD" You're 12, and your past posts have made minimal sense. This proves my point... I'm 13, just so you know I'm not some 16+ who thinks he's mature and stuff.
NewxAge said: " You're 12, and your past posts have made minimal sense. This proves my point... I'm 13, just so you know I'm not some 16+ who thinks he's mature and stuff." Merchanting doesn't cause inflation to that high, what the guy said about MTS and LPQ is the truth. New Blog: Beta - FireFox 3 Ftw!
well, thats life. Now deal with it.
Also, now that I think about it, the new quests from v0.54 and their requirements (such as ores, monster drops) along with the new Maple items are probably the main source of inflation.It doesn't really make sense to pin the blame on Isilie for the rise of incompetent merchants, anyway. The merchanting of the Maple items, especially, probably screwed the economy up. I mean, what else has changed in the last few weeks? Isilie's guide has been there a long time, and only very recently have these "noob merchants" gone up. According to what I've read and seen, that is. New Video: Anime makes everything so dramatic.
Kazoothebat said: "Also, now that I think about it, the new quests from v0.54 and their requirements (such as ores, monster drops) along with the new Maple items are probably the main source of inflation. It doesn't really make sense to pin the blame on Isilie for the rise of incompetent merchants, anyway. The merchanting of the Maple items, especially, probably screwed the economy up. I mean, what else has changed in the last few weeks? Isilie's guide has been there a long time, and only very recently have these "noob merchants" gone up. According to what I've read and seen, that is." kazzo like i said be4 this has started since the beginnin of her guide BUT NOW ITS VERY SEVERE be4 i could make like 80mill a week now i cant make 8mill my second option which i've kept if i wuz hacked wuz do glove atk/jane the alchemist quest on 5 acconts for mesos this attack ob noob merchants has forced me to use my second option
at first when i read this, i misinterpreted thinking you are blaming merchanting, in general. But yes its true, noob merchants, i cannot stand them. They are the reason to blame our claw scrolls are hitting 24m+..... well, i sorta also blame myself for following this thread.... nonetheless, they dont know prices, they buy a 5m scroll for 1.7m, and resell for 2.4m... obviously they are ruining the mean of prices... it gets annoying
yall are saying everything is the merchants' fault? nah its not like that its also because of the meso sellers and meso buyers. they buy the mesos and then they can buy the ridiculous merchant prices therfore raising the price of items. i know know i remember 10 atk wg being around 20mil now they are 30mil
I'm not entirely sure that merchants are to blame for the sharp increase in scroll prices. While i did notice some increase in prices toward the end of april, the huge jumps occurred about a week or so into may. This is almost the exact same time that prices on new level 64 maple equipment became tolerable. I think there may be a link between the new maple drops and the sudden increase in scroll prices. If all the lukless mages and dexless sins and warriors suddenly had new equipment available, they're gonna want it. Since they will be using the equipment for more than a few levels, they want to scroll it good. To do this they need lots of scrolls. The increase in demand with no comparable increase in supply raises price.
Kazoothebat said: "Also, now that I think about it, the new quests from v0.54 and their requirements (such as ores, monster drops) along with the new Maple items are probably the main source of inflation. It doesn't really make sense to pin the blame on Isilie for the rise of incompetent merchants, anyway. The merchanting of the Maple items, especially, probably screwed the economy up. I mean, what else has changed in the last few weeks? Isilie's guide has been there a long time, and only very recently have these "noob merchants" gone up. According to what I've read and seen, that is." Well, I haven't been playing Maple really actively, so when I saw several threads on this subject, I decided to log on and see what happened to the economy. After 4-5 months away from Bello, I almost fainted when I walked into a FM store... I agree that the maple weapons coming out=more demand for scrolls=higher priced scrolls. However, is 10mil 30% claw attack-->30mil 30% claw attack abusing this or what? If the merchants had any common sense, they'd realize that they're making mesos worthless, by the way it's going now. The economy's going to go back towards the time before NLC came out... 100mil 10 atk wgs..... It might not go that extreme, but around there...
Off topic, did anyone notice the hillarious add on the right? ---> *commit murder, run away from home, dye your hair! >=D*On topic: its been that way for a while, and there isn't much we can do but not buy their items *if you mean those who try selling scrolls for 5x the actual price*. Eventually they'll lower their prices down, but I doubt that'll happen any time soon~
To answer a point in here, and raised in another thread, meso sellers/buyers are also not the reason behind the inflation. A very small part, sure, but all? No, not even close.We've all seen the ads in the FM, even on this site with advertisements, the prices are always within the range that the economy heads. When mesos are worth more, they cost more to buy, when they're less, they cost less, simple. This inflation is just as bad for them as it is for the players, as they can't get as much money off the same amount of mesos, because it doesn't have the same buying power. The amount of mesos sellers get, is gotten from farmers, some merchants, and people who sell mesos to them because they're quitting servers/the game. So while they contribute to the problem, they aren't really the cause of it either. |
