Noob merchants screwed the economy
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EDIT: Yes, I am aware that there are multiple other threads on this issue. However, all of the ones I saw were extremely misinformed, in my opinion. EDIT 2: I am also aware that the Maple Anniversary is part of this inflation. However, I feel that it is unnecessary for the greedy hogs who call themselves merchants to abuse the influx of eager scrollers that much Before you come flame me for this, at least read what I have... The problem is, the new idiots who read a merchanting guides don't KNOW anything about actual merchanting, they only know the basics. Yes, they know "buy low, sell high". However, in actuality, it's much more complicated than that. You see many noobs spamming B>SCROLLS@@@@@@@ in the FM, and when you trade them, they offer outrageously low prices. I have a gut feeling that these are the same noobs with 2-3mil higher than normal prices in their FM stores, too... These new noob merchants are ruining it for the proer merchants who actually know what they're doing, since they're buying out all the scrolls and the scrolls end up sitting there in the shops being unsold. This causes richer people to just buy the scrolls due to impatience for new supply, which in turn, raises the price of things. (You walk up to a store and see a glove attack sold for 10 mil *This is impossible, I know.. Just making my point* This makes you, in turn, feel that you can sell glove attacks for around 10mil, too, and it would be sold. This ends up raising the prices... Before you people start saying that's what merchants do, this is NOT what they do. They don't raise prices again and again. They buy low, and sell at a flat rate. They don't increase the prices of which they sell items. They watch the economy, and keep their prices a bit above average. The noob merchants are the ones selling really high, and causing the economy to skyrocket. Jihadi said: "It's not just "n00b merchants" as you put it. The reason scroll prices are going up so much is mostly due to the death of LPQ and the rise of MTS. It's that simple. Granted, I'm sure some people do take advantage of the market like that, raising prices by buying out supplies, the fact of the matter is, LPQ was a source for a LOT of scrolls. Now almost no one LPQs, much less scrolls coming into circulation. MTS takes out even more scrolls, there's usually like, 40+ pages of overpriced scrolls of any "common" kind, (60% claw, or staff, w/e), that just sit there and rot. Much much less supply, perhaps even more demand, especially with the new Maple items, and people wanting to scroll them. Be glad you're not on Kradia, 20mill + for 30% claw scrolls, like, 8-10 mill for 60%s, 3 mill + 60% spears, it's sick." This person makes a good point, too. However, the "some people" who take advantage of this are the greedy baboons who only care about their personal profit, and not the welfare of others. When I was merchanting, I made it a point to try to buy lower, and sell a tiny bit higher... I never put items for more than 1mil above regular prices in my stores, since I know what it's like to be poor... 
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Im pretty sure this "noob merchants" r not the ones that r making the prices rise.
Zammam said: "at first when i read this, i misinterpreted thinking you are blaming merchanting, in general. But yes its true, noob merchants, i cannot stand them. They are the reason to blame our claw scrolls are hitting 24m+..... well, i sorta also blame myself for following this thread.... nonetheless, they dont know prices, they buy a 5m scroll for 1.7m, and resell for 2.4m... obviously they are ruining the mean of prices... it gets annoying" That makes no sense.. What people have been saying here is that they would buy the scroll for 1.7 mil and sell it for 8 mil while the scroll is worth 5 mil..
CelesteLoves said: "The only thing we can count on is the maple economy to crash or something. That would be funny. =D It would be a maple great drepesssion!" you really dont want the economy to crash. trust me.
jaiboa said: "yall are saying everything is the merchants' fault? nah its not like that its also because of the meso sellers and meso buyers. they buy the mesos and then they can buy the ridiculous merchant prices therfore raising the price of items. i know know i remember 10 atk wg being around 20mil now they are 30mil" And who buy mesos from those sellers? The noob merchants who have too much money on their hands... You need money to make money. They buy mesos so they can start merchanting... I might be acting on the stereotype of this thread, but it all links back to the noob merchants..
I believe Merchants should learn to do so themselves. The guide just creates more competition which should have lowered prices, but did not. Now it's just a huge competition for the scrolls themselves.We'll see how the issue gets after the anniversary. Scroll prices went up a lot due to people wanting to scroll Maple Items, especially the wave of DEXless sins wanting to scroll 50+ Skandas...
Okay:#1: You don't know anything about the economy #2: Without merchanters, everything would be corrupted #3: If you don't like it, that's too bad.
Jihadi said: "To answer a point in here, and raised in another thread, meso sellers/buyers are also not the reason behind the inflation. A very small part, sure, but all? No, not even close. We've all seen the ads in the FM, even on this site with advertisements, the prices are always within the range that the economy heads. When mesos are worth more, they cost more to buy, when they're less, they cost less, simple. This inflation is just as bad for them as it is for the players, as they can't get as much money off the same amount of mesos, because it doesn't have the same buying power. The amount of mesos sellers get, is gotten from farmers, some merchants, and people who sell mesos to them because they're quitting servers/the game. So while they contribute to the problem, they aren't really the cause of it either." well most likely they are the cause. take in final fantasy 11 for example. gil sellers got in the servers and guess what? the eceonomy crashed in 5 months after their arrival. thats why i quit playing ff11
The economy will just reset itself eventually.
mEanEst said: "Okay: #1: You don't know anything about the economy #2: Without merchanters, everything would be corrupted #3: If you don't like it, that's too bad." Somehow, I get the feeling that you didn't read my thread... I won't even bother explaining it to you, as you'd probably ignore it and continue on with your stubbornness.
Tell me about it. I try merchanting, and everyone is usually trading the other noobs that buy like Glove ATT 60% scrolls for 500K-1M -_-
guys i need to say one thing before i leave and go play maple. THE ECONOMY WILL EVENTUALLY CRASH AND IT WILL EVENTUALLY GET BACK UP TO THE SAME HEIGHT AND CRASH AGAIN!
i r noob merchantsB>glove atk scwolls 5k pls S>glove atk scwols 6,000,000,000
jaiboa said: " well most likely they are the cause. take in final fantasy 11 for example. gil sellers got in the servers and guess what? the eceonomy crashed in 5 months after their arrival. thats why i quit playing ff11" We had this problem on Maple before too, with outrageous prices. It wasn't because of the meso sellers then either, it was just the way the economy went, in fact, I think it was near last years anniversary event. I know it co-incided near the opening of NLC, all the scroll prices dropped like a rock. There was a huge influx of glove atk scrolls, and atk WGs dropped like mad too. Everything else went down with it, since a lot of the economy seems to tie in with those two items, at least, from my observation. Now we're coming to another "boom" period of large supplies of mesos, lower supply of things to buy. It'll end sooner or later, 2 patches at the most, as long as Nexon keeps releasing new scroll quests, or something that increase the presence of scrolls.
well ok when i read this everything is contributing to the problem. did anyone take in the fact about the trade system too?
I can understand a little inflation here and there but prices have just jumped too far. The thing is there is nothing you can do about it unless you buy all the scrolls, kill anyone trying to gach and reset the market yourself. Register / login
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