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+Friend | May 17 2008
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NewXagE
46 Yellonde Cleric
 
EDIT: Yes, I am aware that there are multiple other threads on this issue. However, all of the ones I saw were extremely misinformed, in my opinion.


EDIT 2: I am also aware that the Maple Anniversary is part of this inflation. However, I feel that it is unnecessary for the greedy hogs who call themselves merchants to abuse the influx of eager scrollers that much


Before you come flame me for this, at least read what I have...

The problem is, the new idiots who read a merchanting guides don't KNOW anything about actual merchanting, they only know the basics. Yes, they know "buy low, sell high". However, in actuality, it's much more complicated than that. You see many noobs spamming B>SCROLLS@@@@@@@ in the FM, and when you trade them, they offer outrageously low prices. I have a gut feeling that these are the same noobs with 2-3mil higher than normal prices in their FM stores, too...

These new noob merchants are ruining it for the proer merchants who actually know what they're doing, since they're buying out all the scrolls and the scrolls end up sitting there in the shops being unsold. This causes richer people to just buy the scrolls due to impatience for new supply, which in turn, raises the price of things. (You walk up to a store and see a glove attack sold for 10 mil *This is impossible, I know.. Just making my point* This makes you, in turn, feel that you can sell glove attacks for around 10mil, too, and it would be sold. This ends up raising the prices...

Before you people start saying that's what merchants do, this is NOT what they do. They don't raise prices again and again. They buy low, and sell at a flat rate. They don't increase the prices of which they sell items. They watch the economy, and keep their prices a bit above average. The noob merchants are the ones selling really high, and causing the economy to skyrocket.

Jihadi said: "It's not just "n00b merchants" as you put it. The reason scroll prices are going up so much is mostly due to the death of LPQ and the rise of MTS. It's that simple. Granted, I'm sure some people do take advantage of the market like that, raising prices by buying out supplies, the fact of the matter is, LPQ was a source for a LOT of scrolls. Now almost no one LPQs, much less scrolls coming into circulation. MTS takes out even more scrolls, there's usually like, 40+ pages of overpriced scrolls of any "common" kind, (60% claw, or staff, w/e), that just sit there and rot. Much much less supply, perhaps even more demand, especially with the new Maple items, and people wanting to scroll them.

Be glad you're not on Kradia, 20mill + for 30% claw scrolls, like, 8-10 mill for 60%s, 3 mill + 60% spears, it's sick."


This person makes a good point, too. However, the "some people" who take advantage of this are the greedy baboons who only care about their personal profit, and not the welfare of others.
When I was merchanting, I made it a point to try to buy lower, and sell a tiny bit higher... I never put items for more than 1mil above regular prices in my stores, since I know what it's like to be poor...
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+Friend | 05/17/08
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NewXagE
46 Yellonde Cleric
 
aragon911 said: "

I dont know if you were around when they used to sell for 180m. 10 att wgs wwere 100m and os on. before dark scrolls came out everything was redicously expensive. After the dark scrolls came out everything dropped. now they are slowly going up in price again. eventually they will drop again. stop complaining about this issue. Im a merchanter too and the way i did it when people started raising the prices in khaini, i would just sell lower than everyone and still made a profit. buy a scroll for 2m and resell it for 2.4m or even 2.3m. Do this with like 20 scrolls a day and you will be making huge profits. theres nothing you can do about increases prices, just try and accomodate to them and if you cant then just stop merchanting. thats the way it is."


The problem is, the noob merchants are buying up all the scrolls.

+Friend | 05/17/08
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SuperVarun
66 Broa Bandit
 
mattmo said: "I respectfully disagree with you, first of all the merchanters who you say are noobs, are actually the real merchanters, they in many cases have 10+ mules with 2 bill on each. But the people who stand in FM literally all day and say "B>SCROLL@@@" arn't merchanters, you can call them that if you'd like but it's actually about a dozen at most people who do it on Bera at least, and they are meso farmers not merchanters, some of them are extremely high levels 150+ who do that to fund their characters and get godly equips, others sell those mesos for real money on websites. I know this is a fact because I used to know someone who did this.

Those people are the real merchanters, and anyone else are the copycats who try to be like them but make no amazing profits.

If you don't know how to walk into fm with 50k, and 2 hours later come out with 50 mill, you're not a merchanter, you're a wanna-be."


I'll ignore your 50k-50 mil example and talk on the rest of your post.

Those are not the real merchanters btw. REAL merchanters buy for low and sell for high. But these people are more like head hunters. They search for newbs you don't know prices and sell them ridiculously high. The problem is,with the PE hackers these days,money drops from the sky for them. They just want the item no matter what. So there you have it,the people who buy that stuff are people who have a LOT of money whether they hack it or not.

Now the buying power of those people has increased drastically in the past few months because THEY'VE started merchanting and got their money. It's become a never-ending chain. The prices are nowhere going to decline because of these reasons.

So,some are merchanters,while are others are head-hunters who take advantage of the rich population. So what is wrong with these head-hunters? They should clearly learn that they are SCREWING UP THE ECONOMY. Bent on personal gain,those are the people that we are complaining about here.

+Friend | 05/17/08
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DarknessOwnz
52 Khaini Assassin
 
What do you mean by Noob merchants anyways?

+Friend | 05/17/08
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AznLuster11
68 Broa Assassin
 
Merchants are always trying to make more money. Duh.

+Friend | 05/17/08
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Brianette
122 Scania Paladin
 
well have you ever looked up the definition of a free market?

+Friend | edited: May 17 2008
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dexlssilbi
64 Windia Assassin
 
First of all stop taking this game so seriously
Second of all, pros can just not buy the scrolls for the high price, since they bought em for the high price, the merchants will know it is able to sell and continue to sell it for that price or even higher.
Third of all you prolly jus mad since you cant afford anything.
Fourthly merchants that make that much money are not noob merchants, they are pro, atleast more pro then you.

+Friend | 05/17/08
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NewXagE
46 Yellonde Cleric
 
peetswee said: "First of all stop taking this game so seriously
Second of all, pros can just not buy the scrolls for the high price, since they bought em for the high price, the merchants will know it is able to sell and continue to sell it for that price or even higher.
Third of all you prolly jus mad since you cant afford anything.
Fourthly merchants that make that much money are not noob merchants, they are pro, atleast more pro then you.
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Firstly, I was bored so I made this thread. I actually quit Maple. I know about the economic situation now because I saw threads about it, so I logged on to check. Second of all, your second point makes no sense. You obviously didn't read what I said. The noob merchants buy all the scrolls and sell it for ridiculously high prices.
Third of all, I quit Maple so I really don't care that prices are out of hand, it's just an interesting concept I decided to make a thread on.
Fourthly, "noob" means idiots who only know their own needs (At least that's my definition of noob). If I wanted to inflate everything, I could do that, too. I have the mesos needed to do that. However, I actually care about the needs of newer players and not-as-rich players, so when I was merchanting, I tried to buy for lower, and sell for low.

+Friend | 05/17/08
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Taysty
90 Windia Chief Bandit
 
This happened during the 1st and 2nd anniversary, too. Merchants don't have so much to do with the inflation as the influx of maple weapons do.
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