FA(Final Attack) Or Not?
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Should i do FA or i shouldn't? Can Some one help me out ?
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we're not fighting, and all that info on skills can help him later on.
well I say max it u dont get inferno till end of third job and arrow bomb is used a lot till hawk.I maxed it and I can do 5k dmg with it + it helps a lot when you are fighting Athena
AttackCell said: "well I say max it u dont get inferno till end of third job and arrow bomb is used a lot till hawk. I maxed it and I can do 5k dmg with it + it helps a lot when you are fighting Athena" but it could screw you over later on with bomb too.
This is one of the most controversial arguements a bowman can possibly ask for. To summarize here's the list of pro's and con's of final attack.Some find it useful, others find it useless. Depends on where you want to put yourself in the near future. Pros and Cons of Final Attack (bow) Pro's of Final Attack -The skill is passive, and trigger's by itself -Higher chance of activating knockback -Faster training from 2nd to 3rd job advancement -Attacks are released fairly quick, very discreet. Looks like you didn't miss a second in action -Works with typical skills such as Arrow Bomb Con's of Final Attack -Ability to jump shoot is immobilized when Final Attack triggers -Cannot max most of 2nd job skills. *Soul Arrow, booster, and focus* -Can be really annoying because you couldn't max out all your supportive moves, you'll have to keep recasting buffs.
"ability to jump shoot is immobilized when FA triggers"-that's only if you have enough jump and that's a good thing. FA users have more control over FA so when the right situation calls, we don't have to use it. "cannot max most of 2nd job skills" - you don't really need excessive SA anyways. just sync it up with booster and you're good. and are you seriously trying to make focus sound good? EDIT: actually, scratch that. you don't even need to get it synced either. you just needa get SA close to the time booster is since we have macros and skill duration timers out. "can get annoying" - personal experience, no it isn't annoying at all.
player1or2 said: ""ability to jump shoot is immobilized when FA triggers" -that's only if you have enough jump and that's a good thing. FA users have more control over FA so when the right situation calls, we don't have to use it. "cannot max most of 2nd job skills" - you don't really need excessive SA anyways. just sync it up with booster and you're good. and are you seriously trying to make focus sound good? EDIT: actually, scratch that. you don't even need to get it synced either. you just needa get SA close to the time booster is since we have macros and skill duration timers out. "can get annoying" - personal experience, no it isn't annoying at all." Opinionated beliefs, not everyone says it's comfortable. You might be comfortable with the recasting of buffs every so often. Whereas other's see it as annoying. Practically every 1-2minutes they would have to recast buff.
look at the link spirit posted on the first page and scroll down to the # of times people would have to recast in an hour.and you're pros and cons are opinionated too. "triggers by itself" is one of the main reasons why people don't like FA "it works with bomb" can also be a reason not to like FA and i already talked about not maxing other skills/jumpshooting.
player1or2 said: "look at the link spirit posted on the first page and scroll down to the # of times people would have to recast in an hour. and you're pros and cons are opinionated too. "triggers by itself" is one of the main reasons why people don't like FA "it works with bomb" can also be a reason not to like FA and i already talked about not maxing other skills/jumpshooting." The link spirit posted would be called testimonials, and wouldn't really be considered as evidence. In order to prove that everyone likes recasting buff's every so often, you would need to ask everyone. Not just some people. Let's say you're in a math class, and you find Pre-Calculus hard. You ask everyone and they say, "It's very easy how can you not get it? o.o" What would you do then? That is just what you are stating when you say it's not annoying to recast buff's every so often for some people. I even listed the word some* not everyone. Some*. Opinionated beliefs as you were saying does not include trigger's by itself. Which thorougly explains the word Passive Skill. Not being opinionated. FA trigger's most of the time at a low rate of 60% with 250% regular damage attack. Works with bomb does not mean people won't like FA. Say you are shooting at a mob, at the same time you focus on one monster during that half a second to shoot an arrow. How can that not be a good thing? Even you said so yourself in the previous posts. I already added everything you said from all the other FA posts and now you are just contradicting yourself. Look back at the later posts that you posted. I can assure you, all the points I make here are points that you told me FA hunter's had advantages. Now I list of the possibilities and you just contradicted yourself. Meaning, now you're trying to prove all your other statements wrong. I did explain above that it was just a basic pro's and con's list. No need to say you already stated not maxing skills/jumpshooting.
the thing i told you to look at wasn't even about whether it would be annoying or not so why would you bring that argument upi'm not getting you at all. i bring up that triggers by itself can be a con and you just ignore it and go off on something random. have you heard FA vs FA-less arguments? the pro FA-less guy always says that if you have FA, it reduces the bombs damage in a mob. there are numbers to that on sleepy but i dont have the exact link. people also argue that if FA triggers with bomb you would be open for attacks during that half second. examples please? i've never brought up triggering by itself, higher chance of KB, but might have mentioned faster leveling a couple of times but not frequently. i'm looking at the argument both ways because FA isn't for everyone. one person may like the FA+bomb combo while others don't, so maybe that's why you think im contradicting myself.
exactly, if you could go ahead and find that link. That would solve this thread's problems. I'm searching the sw threads now, if i do find the thread you are saying that you saw. I'll post it here.
the one of FA lowering bomb's % per whatever time?just make a thread over there and ask them.
DAMMIT! No need to be like 100% on this. ill sum it up, this is something even i know.- These arguments revolve around opinions. There is no right or wrong answer. Some people like to KB enemies with PKB, while others dont. you dont NEED it or HAVE to have it,and FA is only if you want the extra little boost, and anyway, 5x-till 71 is all LMPQ, so you dont need FA unless you grind, which isnt very recommended. - There are many Pros and Cons to both PKB and FA. a person who finds the Cons a Pro in FA, then they should go FA. I dont like FA because its annoying having to recast SA and Booster a lot. - Basically, if you have money and dont need LMPQ, go FA. If your going to PQ, dont go FA. FA after level 70 has no use unless you use Bomb in 3rd job like some people do. But thats why theres hawk and inferno ( Bomb vs. Inferno is a whole other arguement >_< ) Thats pretty much it.
ur 51, of course you would re-cast a lot."a person who finds the Cons a Pro in FA, then they should go FA." what? "unless you use bomb in 3rd job like some people" what? "hawk and inferno" you get those late in 3rd job and hawk isn't a mob skill. what?
player1or2 said: "ur 51, of course you would re-cast a lot. "a person who finds the Cons a Pro in FA, then they should go FA." what? "unless you use bomb in 3rd job like some people" what? "hawk and inferno" you get those late in 3rd job and hawk isn't a mob skill. what?" Sorry, kinda quick, didnt pay attention: 1. Some people find FA Cons a Pro, well not a pro, but lets say u have to recast alot, some one like you wouldnt mind much, get where im goin? 2. people sometimes use bomb at squids... 3. i meant that hawk stuns. and inferno > Bomb. btw, im 58...
2. they don't sometimes bomb at squids.3. that didn't help you at all. the points still stand, hawk becomes reliable at what? 9x-100 and inferno is the last skill you would max if you did max it. hawk is not a mob skill like bomb is. Register / login
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